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    1. [ENG-DUR] Pelton Fell
    2. Sarah
    3. Pelton Fell is in Chester-Le-Street, and so is the Colliery. I'll bet all of the men were colliers here. http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/p001.htm >>Feb 21 1850 Thomas NAYLOR, of full age, bachelor, collier, Pelton Fell, father George NAYLOR, collier Mary Ann LOWES, of full age, spinster, Pelton Fell, father Edward LOWES, collier<<Jan Canberra Australia

    01/14/2004 07:31:02
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Which church?
    2. Sarah
    3. Could they have meant Chester-Le-Street? http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vwebparishes/chester-le-street+st.+mary+and+st.+cuthbert Sarah >>The marriage certificate of my gg grandparents says they were married in the Parish Church in the Parish of Chester St in the County of Durham:....... .......Can anyone tell me where this church was located?<<Jan

    01/14/2004 07:24:58
    1. [ENG-DUR] Callaghan Family
    2. Frances Cook
    3. Hi fellow listers. I am still hoping to find relatives of my father,Francis (Frank) Callaghan born 26 July 1898. He was sent to Canada in 1911 from an orphanage in Stockton-on-tees. His siblings were lice born 1886, Mary Jane b. 1888, Jonathan 1891 and Henry born 1897. There were two children who died as infants. The parents were Thomas Callaghan born about 1856 in Consett and Elizabeth Ann Turner b. 1862 in Blackhill. I have many certificates and some census which I am willing to share with anyone researching the same family. Hoping to hear from someone. Fran

    01/14/2004 09:45:16
    1. [ENG-DUR] bruce family
    2. Sue
    3. Hi, thought i would repost my reserach interest of BRUCE ( Stockton, Thornaby and surrounding areas) as they seem to have disappeared of the face of the planet. Is anyone else reseraching this name ? or come across any also i am trying to find anything about a ROBERT ALLEN born 1833 Stockton and his father ROBERT ALLEN 1796 Stockton if anyone has him in their tree could they contact me. thanks sue

    01/14/2004 09:27:19
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Smithson/Conyers
    2. In a message dated 14/01/2004 13:52:01 GMT Standard Time, wsmithso@erols.com writes: > I am looking for descendants of Grace Smithson, daughter of Christopher > Smithson and Dorothy Calvert who married a Conyers. Smithson lived at Moulton, > Yorkshire, England. Calvert was a sister to Sir George Calvert who was the > 1st Lord Baltimore and foudner of Maryland. > Chris Smithson > Chris: I have a pedigree of the Conyers, Baronets, of Co Durham, a line which actually ended in 1810, the last Baronet having been "rescued" from Chester le Street Workhouse by a group of Co Durham gentlemen, led by Robert Surtees of Mainsforth, the county historian and including Shute Barrington, Bishop of Durham. I find the question of his descendants fascinating - it involves several widespread families from the northern part of Co Durham and Tyneside. I also have a copy of Geoff Nuttall's book "Who was Lord Conyers?" (ISBN 0 9536149 0 5). I have looked through each of those but can find no Smithson reference. Obviously something more detailed is required, and I suppose the standard Peerages should be looked at for the answer. No doubt it is in Burke. Surtees gives some details of the Co Durham side of the family in at least two places in his "History of the County Palatine of Durham". One thing strikes me as odd - were not the "Peerage Conyers" Roman Catholics? As the Smithsons were Church of England, I wonder whether it was perhaps one of the younger branches of the family into which they married. No doubt you will already know of the Smithsonian connection and that to the Duke of Northumberland, whose surname should be Smithson. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

    01/14/2004 04:37:39
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Smithson/Conyers
    2. Sarah
    3. >>I am looking for descendants of Grace Smithson, daughter of Christopher Smithson and Dorothy Calvert who married a Conyers. Smithson lived at Moulton, Yorkshire, England. Calvert was a sister to Sir George Calvert who was the 1st Lord Baltimore and foudner of Maryland.<<Chris Smithson Were these Smithsons related to Sir Hugh Smithson? Philadelphia Reveley, of Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire, married Langdale Smithson, esquire, the second son of Sir Hugh Smithson, Bart. They had one son, Hugh, born at Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire. He became Sir Hugh Smithson when he succeeded his grandfather. He became the Duke of Northumberland when he married the Lady Elizabeth Seymour. However, he changed his name to Percy. I'm trying to break thru my brick wall to bask in Philadelphia's reflected glory. ;-) Sarah in Texas

    01/14/2004 03:58:45
    1. [ENG-DUR] Jeffcocks in the area?
    2. The Office of Karen Hill
    3. Hi there I must not confess to not knowing geographically the Newcastle area so I apologise if I am writing to the wrong list in advance! I am looking for Jeffcocks in the Newburn area. On the 1901 census there are George age 34 and his wife Annie age 33 and their two children George age 6 and Clement age 5. There is also a Gertrude age 17 but I don't know where she fits into the family picture. Would anyone be able to, if they have time be able to check census returns for the Newburn area to check for any Jeffcock entries please. Jeffcock is not a common name (Only 240 appx appear on the 2003 Electoral Register country wide) so in times past there "hopefully" would have been even less. Any help offered would be greatfully received or if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great too. Many thanks Karen Hill Sheffield UK

    01/14/2004 01:59:02
    1. [ENG-DUR] Smithson/Conyers
    2. Christopher T. Smithson
    3. Hi I am looking for descendants of Grace Smithson, daughter of Christopher Smithson and Dorothy Calvert who married a Conyers. Smithson lived at Moulton, Yorkshire, England. Calvert was a sister to Sir George Calvert who was the 1st Lord Baltimore and foudner of Maryland. Thanks Chris Smithson

    01/14/2004 01:51:21
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Crow/Glendenning
    2. In a message dated 14/01/2004 04:07:48 GMT Standard Time, kathychadwell@srt.com writes: > Below is information taken from the Glendinning website and I am attempting > to find the children of Elizabeth Glendinning and Richard Crow. To date I > have had no success. I do have the will of Richard Crow but that has not > given much direction either. Any assistance or leads would be greatly > appreciated. > > Children of Henry Glendinning and Dorothy Head > (of Eden Hall and Shotton, Co. Durham) > 1) Elizabeth (1779-?) married Richard Crow of Billingham 22.6.1809 St > Mary's had issue. > A marriage in 1809 probably gave rise to at least one baptism before the end of the Barrington period. The full baptism entry would therefore be expected to tell you where the parents were natives of. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

    01/13/2004 09:50:52
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Lindisfarne
    2. MJCallaghan
    3. I believe the knocker there now is a copy the original being carefully preserved. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Edgar Iredale To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Lindisfarne On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:30 pm, Sarah wrote: > Thanks to Stan and Edgar. I didn't remember that Islandshire used to > be a part of Durham. DUH. > Here's some more info: > http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Lindisfarne.htm > > You can find the old engravings of Lindisfarne Abbey I own at > http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk/northumberland.htm > > My favorite story is about Archibald Reveley, from the A2A: > > On August 4, 1517, an Archibald Reveley of Fowbery County, > Northumberland came to the Cathedral Church of Durham, and rang the > bell, then earnestly begged the immunity of St. Cuthbert, because he > was present when Laurence Beil, George Reveley, John Reveley, and > William Reveley slew Thomas Reveley, and Thomas Boynde, at Warunden, > within the territory of Fowberry, on July 25, 1517. > > Sarah Reveley > A chilly 64 degrees, but warming, in Texas > Perhaps that's why your Reveleys went to Cumberland - to chase the Saint after his body was dug up from Lindisfarne and taken to Workington "Where Cuthbert's body sought the sea". Although really I think it probably had more to do with industrialisation. People with skills in coal & iron seem to have crossed the country in both directions around that time. There was some kind of early smelting plant at Little Clifton near Workington on land owned by a Penrith family Cookson some of whom moved to Tyneside in the 1600s. William Cookson started a coal pit there and later John Cookson, of the Tyneside family, came back and started an iron furnace in 1723. John Wilkinson the Iron Master was born at Clifton and I think his father Isaac came from Tyneside. Oh by the way. There's a 12th century bronze sanctuary knocker not a door bell at Durham Cathedral. I think the crucial thing was to grab hold of it rather than knock (or ring). Apparently two monks were on hand to give sanctuary to seekers and to see them safely to the coast. Edgar ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== Browse the ENG-DURHAM archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/eng-durham

    01/13/2004 05:52:34
    1. [ENG-DUR] Crow/Glendenning
    2. kathy chadwell
    3. Below is information taken from the Glendinning website and I am attempting to find the children of Elizabeth Glendinning and Richard Crow. To date I have had no success. I do have the will of Richard Crow but that has not given much direction either. Any assistance or leads would be greatly appreciated. Children of Henry Glendinning and Dorothy Head (of Eden Hall and Shotton, Co. Durham) 1) Elizabeth (1779-?) married Richard Crow of Billingham 22.6.1809 St Mary's had issue. Thanks in advance, Kathy

    01/13/2004 03:13:52
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Durham Knocker (was Lindisfarne)
    2. I think one of the early Surtees Society Volumes was devoted to some of the records of mediaeval sanctuary at Durham Cathedral. In the 1970s Doug Smith (now President of Sunderland Antiquarian Society) brought out a very interesting little booklet (published for him by Frank Graham) on "Sanctuary at Durham". It will now be long out of print but it is well worth keeping a look-out for it in second-hand bookshops, market stalls, Family History Fairs, etc, as it is a mine of information about the procedures as well as about some (though by no means all) of the seekers after sanctuary. It is not always appreciated that Sanctuary in the Cathedral was only the final stage of a series of Sanctuary rights which began when a few miles out from the Cathedral itself - there were crosses on the main roads leading to Durham which marked the limits of sanctuary, Neville's Cross, the only survivor being the most famous (It is also associated with the Battle of Neville's Cross, and probably takes its present name from events that day, but it was there for centuries before that). A fairly minimal right of sanctuary was gained by being "inside" the limits of those crosses, and a greater one once the Cathedral precincts were entered, but gaining access to the interior of he Cathedral building meant reaching the highest level of Sanctuary. There were similar sanctuary rights connected with other major churches etc, Hexham Abbey, for instance, having had its own rules. On another topic,he three detached parts of Co Durham within Northumberland had their origins as three separate estates - known in Anglian days as "shires", even though Islandshire and Norhamshire are adjacent to each other. Bedlingtonshire is well separated from the other two. One theory I once heard is that because the boundary between the main part of Co Durham and Northumberland goes along the Tyne and, in its more western parts along the Derwent, the old parish of Ryton, which originally included all Co Durham north of the Derwent - ie one might expect it top have been part of Northumberland - is perhaps another "detached part" but one which lies adjacent to the main part and is not therefore obviously detached. Personally I doubt that because there seems to be no reason for it. I can rationalise Islandshire as being the "homeland" of the church of Durham, Norhamshire as being a possession of the Bishop which he would not want to give up as it was the hinterland of his castle at Norham, whereby he played his part in defending the border, and Bedlingtonshire was the first resting-place of St Cuthbert's bones, but why Ryton? Holy Island, or Lindisfarne, has been mentioned. Yes, it really is a gem - I can just remember going there for holidays not long after the War, when there was no causeway, and it was necessary to hire a rust-covered Taxi from the pub at Beal to cross the sands. The most exciting part of the ride was when the driver forded the "Low", or stream which runs between the mainland and the island even at low tide. He used to shout out to his passengers to "lift your feet up!", just before about a foot of sea-water came in through the floor-boards (I said it was a long time ago!). In those days when the tide came in the island was a law unto itself and anything went - the pubs were open all night if need be as there was no Police presence on the island. Nowadays it gives the impression of being over-run with tourists during the day in the summer time, but in winter or when the tides are not convenient it quickly regains its old atmosphere. The Abbey ruins, the church and those glorious deserted acres of sand-dunes are all marvellous - as is the castle (best seen from outside and from a distance, I'd say) and that isolated little garden behind stone walls, across a muddy track from the castle, now restored to what Gertrude Jeykell laid out about a century ago, is another of its little hidden gems. I'd better not say any more about it, or you will all want to go there and that would spoil it! Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

    01/13/2004 11:02:25
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Lindisfarne
    2. Edgar Iredale
    3. On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 3:30 pm, Sarah wrote: > Thanks to Stan and Edgar. I didn't remember that Islandshire used to > be a part of Durham. DUH. > Here's some more info: > http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Lindisfarne.htm > > You can find the old engravings of Lindisfarne Abbey I own at > http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk/northumberland.htm > > My favorite story is about Archibald Reveley, from the A2A: > > On August 4, 1517, an Archibald Reveley of Fowbery County, > Northumberland came to the Cathedral Church of Durham, and rang the > bell, then earnestly begged the immunity of St. Cuthbert, because he > was present when Laurence Beil, George Reveley, John Reveley, and > William Reveley slew Thomas Reveley, and Thomas Boynde, at Warunden, > within the territory of Fowberry, on July 25, 1517. > > Sarah Reveley > A chilly 64 degrees, but warming, in Texas > Perhaps that's why your Reveleys went to Cumberland - to chase the Saint after his body was dug up from Lindisfarne and taken to Workington "Where Cuthbert's body sought the sea". Although really I think it probably had more to do with industrialisation. People with skills in coal & iron seem to have crossed the country in both directions around that time. There was some kind of early smelting plant at Little Clifton near Workington on land owned by a Penrith family Cookson some of whom moved to Tyneside in the 1600s. William Cookson started a coal pit there and later John Cookson, of the Tyneside family, came back and started an iron furnace in 1723. John Wilkinson the Iron Master was born at Clifton and I think his father Isaac came from Tyneside. Oh by the way. There's a 12th century bronze sanctuary knocker not a door bell at Durham Cathedral. I think the crucial thing was to grab hold of it rather than knock (or ring). Apparently two monks were on hand to give sanctuary to seekers and to see them safely to the coast. Edgar

    01/13/2004 10:39:26
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Lindisfarne
    2. In a message dated 13/01/2004 17:41:36 GMT Standard Time, edgar@iredale-we.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Apparently two monks were on hand to give > sanctuary to seekers and to see them safely to the coast. > From http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dla0www/c_tour/point1.html One of the most striking features of the North Door itself is the bronze, lion-like Sanctuary Knocker attached to the outside and shown in the photograph above. Throughout the Middle Ages, Durham Cathedral was a place of sanctuary. A fugitive from the law wishing to claim protection used the knocker to attract the attention of two watchmen in a chamber over the North Door. He was then admitted to the Monastery and given sanctuary for a maximum of thirty seven days during which time he had to choose between trial and voluntary exile. If he chose the latter, he was escorted to a port - usually the Bishop's port at Hartlepool - wearing a badge in the shape of the cross of St Cuthbert stitched to his shoulder and carrying a rough wooden cross tied together with rope. Once at the port, he was required to embark on the next ship that was due to set sail regardless of its destination. The Sanctuary Knocker attached to the front of the North Door today is, in fact, an exact copy of the original and was placed there in 1980. The original itself is on display in the Cathedral's museum. Regards Stan Mapstone

    01/13/2004 10:09:51
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] 18th century Reveleys
    2. Edgar Iredale
    3. On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 2:58 pm, Sarah wrote: > Hi! > > Islandshire includes Holy Island and Lindisfarne, off the coast of > Northumberland, way up on the map but not too far from Reaveley and > Ingram. Now I realize this is the Durham List, so it is somewhat > off-topic, but there are a lot of Reveleys in Durham. Relatively > speaking. > > Sarah > > OK, I'll admit to my ignorance ... where's "Islandshire"? I've never > heard the term before! > > Karen Islandshire was in DURHAM so presumably this is on-topic, even though it is now part of Northumberland. Holy Island _AND_ Lindisfarne? They are the same thing - just different names. Lovely quiet island that you can drive to when the tide is out. Edgar

    01/13/2004 08:16:27
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] 18th century Reveleys
    2. Edgar Iredale
    3. On Tuesday 13 Jan 2004 10:21 am, Lynn Karen wrote: > OK, I'll admit to my ignorance ... where's "Islandshire"? I've never > heard the term before! > > Karen > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sarah [mailto:SREVELEY@satx.rr.com] > > Hmmm....there were Reveleys in Islandshire! To the north of Northumberland there used to be a detached part of Durham - North Durham. In it were three shires, Bedlington, Norham and Island. Islandshire was the area around Lindisfarne. A few years ago there was a good write up about this in the magazine of the Northumberland & Durham FHS. Unfortunately I've no longer got a copy and can't remember much more than I've just said. But Google is your friend - so they say. http://www.dur.ac.uk/Library/asc/pip/technical/county.html may help a little. Edgar

    01/13/2004 05:30:42
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Durham Knocker (was Lindisfarne)
    2. Sarah
    3. >>Oh by the way. There's a 12th century bronze sanctuary knocker not a door bell at Durham Cathedral. I think the crucial thing was to grab hold of it rather than knock (or ring). Apparently two monks were on hand to give sanctuary to seekers and to see them safely to the coast.<<Edgar Thank you Edgar. The Senior Guide caught that one, too. Here is what she said: "Dear Sarah Further to the reply from Durham Cathedral. I attach the actual words of the entry in the Monastic records of your ancestor seeking sanctuary. As you will see from my rough translation he did NOT ring the bell. Before 1503 after the fugitive was admitted to the Church he was required to ring a penitential bell but this ceased in 1503. Your ancestor would have used the knocker. There were always two people keeping watch for those who sought sanctuary. Then a bell was rung to warn the people of Durham that a fugitive had come to the Cathedral /Monastery. The doors were opened and he was taken to a particular spot. he was allowed to stay for up to 37 days. There is no record of how long Archibald stayed. With very few exceptions, those who sought sanctuary and confessed their sins at Cuthbert's shrine swore to abjure the realm for ever. They were passed from constable to constable until they reached the port (usually) Hartlepool and they had to take the first ship leaving and n! ever return. we do know that a few jumped ship but we do not know where the rest ended up. Best wishes Lilian Groves Senior Guide ********** Ad Ecclesiam Cath. Dunelm., iiij Augusti, MDXVII, venit quidam Archebaldus Reveley, de Fowbery, in Com. Nothumbriæ, et peciit immunitatem, pro eo quod præsens fuit quando quidam Laurentius Beill, Georgius Reveley, Johannes Reveley et Willielmus reveley, quosdam Thomam Reveley et Thomam Boynde, apud Waunden infra territorium de Fowbery, interfecerunt, in die S. Jacobi, viz xxv Julii, MDXVII, pro quâ feloniâ - et ope ac auxilio per eundem Archebaldum dictis homicidis facto - ommunitatem peciit. Præsentibus Henrico Kelynghall, Lionello Elmesden et Radulfo Byllingham, generosis. Roughly translated On August 4th 1517 Archibald Reveley came to the Cathedral Church of Durham and earnestly sought sanctuary because he was present when .... slew Thomas Reveley and Thomas Boynde. on the day of St James viz 25th July 1517 for which felony and the aid and help through the same Archibald Reveley to the same he begs immunity. The people names as being present were all gentlemen of Durham who acted as witnesses." There's a photo of the knocker at http://www.gettysburg.edu/academics/english/britain/anglo-saxon/durham/durhamarch.htm Sarah

    01/13/2004 05:02:27
    1. RE: [ENG-DUR] 18th century Reveleys
    2. Lynn Karen
    3. OK, I'll admit to my ignorance ... where's "Islandshire"? I've never heard the term before! Karen > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarah [mailto:SREVELEY@satx.rr.com] > Hmmm....there were Reveleys in Islandshire! >

    01/13/2004 03:21:27
    1. [ENG-DUR] Lindisfarne
    2. Sarah
    3. Thanks to Stan and Edgar. I didn't remember that Islandshire used to be a part of Durham. DUH. Here's some more info: http://www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Lindisfarne.htm You can find the old engravings of Lindisfarne Abbey I own at http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk/northumberland.htm My favorite story is about Archibald Reveley, from the A2A: On August 4, 1517, an Archibald Reveley of Fowbery County, Northumberland came to the Cathedral Church of Durham, and rang the bell, then earnestly begged the immunity of St. Cuthbert, because he was present when Laurence Beil, George Reveley, John Reveley, and William Reveley slew Thomas Reveley, and Thomas Boynde, at Warunden, within the territory of Fowberry, on July 25, 1517. Sarah Reveley A chilly 64 degrees, but warming, in Texas

    01/13/2004 02:30:34
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] 18th century Reveleys
    2. Sarah
    3. Hi! Islandshire includes Holy Island and Lindisfarne, off the coast of Northumberland, way up on the map but not too far from Reaveley and Ingram. Now I realize this is the Durham List, so it is somewhat off-topic, but there are a lot of Reveleys in Durham. Relatively speaking. Sarah OK, I'll admit to my ignorance ... where's "Islandshire"? I've never heard the term before! Karen

    01/13/2004 01:58:02