In a message dated 31/01/2004 21:59:27 GMT Standard Time, SREVELEY@satx.rr.com writes: > Excuse me, just Jarrow St Paul, S Tyneside Branch MIs are available thru > the > NDFHS. Parish registers on the other Jarrows. > There seems a little confusion here. The NDFHS publishes transcripts of the MIs from, among other non-Jarrow places, (a) Jarrow Municipal Cemetery and (b) Jarrow St Paul's parish churchyard. Both these will be listed on their web-site. Some parish register transcripts and indexes (and certain other material) are also published, by the NDFHS and others. I suggest you look at the web-sites of the NDFHS and of other local publishers for these. You will also find the GENUKI Co Durham site very useful in discovering what is available to purchase, and who from. As far as I am aware there are no "other Jarrows" - only that in South Tyneside between South Shields and Hebburn and on the edge of Jarrow Slake (or it was before the Slake was effectively filled in to make a depot for exporting cars!). Also, the publications of hte NFDHS are published by that Society as a whole and not by any of its individual branches such as that of South Tyneside. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

Mary Ann SURTEES died on 27th April l899, aged 53 yrs. at 93 High Street, Jarrow. Her husband, Edward, died ca. l9l5. Does anyone know whether there are any monumental inscription indexes for the Jarrow area? I was wondering whether they might have been buried at the local church, rather than a municipal cemetery. Can anyone suggest the best place to write? Diane Johansen

Excuse me, just Jarrow St Paul, S Tyneside Branch MIs are available thru the NDFHS. Parish registers on the other Jarrows.

>>Does anyone know whether there are any monumental inscription indexes for the Jarrow area? I was wondering whether they might have been buried at the local church, rather than a municipal cemetery. Can anyone suggest the best place to write?<< Diane Johansen Go to the Record Office website: http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vallparishes/jarrow+st.+paul Or the Diocese: http://www.durham.anglican.org/directory/dpatoz.htm The Jarrow Cemetery is available thru the NDFHS: http://www.ndfhs.fsnet.co.uk/Library/Catalogue03.html Good luck! Sarah in warm and sunny Texas

Does anyone know of a place in Durham County called DIRTCAR? It was given as an address on a marriage cert. TIA Helen

In a message dated 31/01/2004 05:54:54 GMT Standard Time, helenh48@westnet.com.au writes: > Does anyone know of a place in Durham County called DIRTCAR? It was given > as an address on a marriage cert. > Speaking for myself, the simple answer is "no". However, I can make some observations on the name. First, are you certain that is the name? I have heard of some very severe distortions in an apparent place-name, made by those who are not used to reading old handwriting! For now, I shall assume that the writing is clear and there can be no doubt that it really does say "Dirtcar". "Carr", as a place-name element seems to have two, apparently opposite, meanings! It is sometimes used for low-lying and/or boggy ground, often as "The Carrs". On the other hand there is another meaning of "an outcrop of rocks" and that one is often used around the coast, where a group of off-shore rocks, or a rocky patch on a beach, will have a name which includes the element "Carrs". Just out of our district, in the former North Riding of Yorkshire, there is a coastal town/resort named Redcar, for instance. "Dirt" seems to refer to the remains of lead-bearing rocks after almost all the lead ore has been extracted from it by crushing, separating by water processes ("buddles") etc, and only the last remnants remain to be extracted. There is a place named "Dirt Pot" just north of Allenheads in East Allendale, Northumberland. Therefore, without committing myself in any way, I would guess that Dirtcar could be a piece of boggy ground close to a lead-ore crushing/washing plant! If it is within the old Co Durham then that would probably place it in Weardale (or its offshoot, the Rookhope valley), Teesdale or the south side of the Derwent valley. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

Hi My aunt Margaret Ellen Alderson was called Nellie I think it may have been the Ellen part of the name. Unita ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tennett, Eric R." <ERTennett@cvs.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 02:04 Subject: RE: [ENG-DUR] Nellie > Helen > > -----Original Message----- > From: relder [mailto:relder@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:56 AM > To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-DUR] Nellie > > > Does anyone no what Nellie was short for about the 1920 period > Bob > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > U.K. PhoneDirectory > http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/ > Looking for an address in the U.K. try, > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > ENG-DURHAM list specificaly covers all of County Durham > http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/parishes.html >

Hello. I need a little help. If someone has access to the 1851 East Rainton census I was hoping to fill in the gaps (place of birth, occupation) on the following family: DUR HO107/2393 folio 486 East Rainton TENNET George 45 TENETT Frances 44 TENETT Wm. 17 TENETT Elizabeth 16 TENETT Jane 14 TENETT Geo 12 TENETT Margaret 10 TENETT Eliza 5 TENETT Frances 3 TENETT Harriet 6mths. Thanks you. Eric Tennett

Linda KIRK's 1995 project report "Some Durham Miners and Their Families, Pelton Fell 1891" was published on an Open University CD-ROM. It analyses the 1891 Census data for the families living in the three "Pit Rows" in Pelton Fell where some of my relatives lived: Pit Row, Middle Row and Whitehill Terrace. In a postscript the author says that she hopes to extend the study. Does anyone have any information about further work or a current address/email details for Linda KIRK? Thank you David Leathard dleathard@cix.co.uk

Hello Peter, I was interested in this. I have no personal interest, but I was absolutely amazed at the information you were able to glean from a picture. Your knowledge makes me desperately want to have a picture that I could ask your advice on. Sadly, I do not have any. Excellent and interesting. thank you.david Williams in Essex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fellowes" <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > Hi again Bob, > Thanks for the scan very interesting. > The Regiment your Gt Uncle belonged to (well at the time of the photo, as it > was not uncommon for wounded soldiers on being returned as fit for duty > being posted to other regiments) is: > > The York and Lancaster Regiment > Known as "The York and Lancs" for short, also nicknamed as "Cat and Cabbage" > or "The Royal Tigers". > > The cap badge combines the Royal Tiger for distinguished service in India > with the Union Rose for Lancaster and York. Granted in 1809. The Regiment > disbanded in 1969. The York and Lancs started the war from a pre war regular > establishment of 2 regular and 2 reserve battalions and ended the war with > an establishment of 19 battalions. During the duration of the First World > War they gained a total of 59 Battle Honours, they gained a total of 4 > Victoria Crosses and suffered an estimated total casualty figure of 8,810 > killed or missing. > > In the picture he is dressed in what is known as "Hospital Blues" and > because of this you can be certain that he was in a hospital in England as > opposed to, say in France. The uniform would have been Blue with White > inside, a White shirt and Red Tie. The material of the uniform is a rough > blanket like material. The cap he is wearing is what is known as 1914 > pattern stiff cap. The patterns and styles of cap changed as the war went > on. > > Hope this has been of some help, anything else please shout > > Best regards > Peter Fellowes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 PM > Subject: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > > > > Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was > gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what > looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he > was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & > Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham > > Bob > > > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe send the command unsubscribe to > > ENG-DURHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > > or ENG-DURHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > > > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > Browse the ENG-DURHAM archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/eng-durham > >

Thanks to all who sent me info on the Cap Badge it turns out to be the "York's & Lanc's" Thanks once again to all Bob

Hi again Bob, Thanks for the scan very interesting. The Regiment your Gt Uncle belonged to (well at the time of the photo, as it was not uncommon for wounded soldiers on being returned as fit for duty being posted to other regiments) is: The York and Lancaster Regiment Known as "The York and Lancs" for short, also nicknamed as "Cat and Cabbage" or "The Royal Tigers". The cap badge combines the Royal Tiger for distinguished service in India with the Union Rose for Lancaster and York. Granted in 1809. The Regiment disbanded in 1969. The York and Lancs started the war from a pre war regular establishment of 2 regular and 2 reserve battalions and ended the war with an establishment of 19 battalions. During the duration of the First World War they gained a total of 59 Battle Honours, they gained a total of 4 Victoria Crosses and suffered an estimated total casualty figure of 8,810 killed or missing. In the picture he is dressed in what is known as "Hospital Blues" and because of this you can be certain that he was in a hospital in England as opposed to, say in France. The uniform would have been Blue with White inside, a White shirt and Red Tie. The material of the uniform is a rough blanket like material. The cap he is wearing is what is known as 1914 pattern stiff cap. The patterns and styles of cap changed as the war went on. Hope this has been of some help, anything else please shout Best regards Peter Fellowes ----- Original Message ----- From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham > Bob > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send the command unsubscribe to > ENG-DURHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > or ENG-DURHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > >

Also, Eleanor and Ellen "Tennett, Eric R." <ERTennett@cvs.com> wrote:Helen -----Original Message----- From: relder [mailto:relder@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:56 AM To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-DUR] Nellie Does anyone no what Nellie was short for about the 1920 period Bob ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== U.K. PhoneDirectory http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/ Looking for an address in the U.K. try, http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== ENG-DURHAM list specificaly covers all of County Durham http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/parishes.html --------------------------------- Chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger

Does anyone no what Nellie was short for about the 1920 period Bob

Hi Bob, Any chance you can send me a scan or image and I can tell you what the cap badge is and his unit details. Better still if you can scan or image the whole picture there maybe other badges etc that throws more light on information. You would be surprised how many people just worry about (their) cap badges and when I see the picture there is wealth of other information in badges etc re Brigade, Divisions, Wound Stripes etc etc. Another trap not to fall into is that he came from a certain place and therefore he must belong to a certain unit. That does not apply, agreed there are a lot of cases of enlistment in late 1914 and very early 1915 where men elected to serve in the local (sic) regiment but it does not follow that just because he was local to a given area he served in a local regiment. Do you know when he was gassed?, he might have been part of the gassings that occurred during the early part Battle of Loos 1915. Best Regards Peter Fellowes ----- Original Message ----- From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham > Bob > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send the command unsubscribe to > ENG-DURHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > or ENG-DURHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > >

Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham Bob

In message <0537A413-5246-11D8-98C6-000A95A6F20A@buckland-design.co.uk>, john <john@buckland-design.co.uk> writes >Hi > >wonder if anyone can help. Ive just started on the SAYERS line of my >family, im very short of info, i think my Gfather Albert was born in >Coxhoe and his father was called Thomas, thats about it! Can anybody >tell me what parish Coxhoe comes under - had thought that maybe it was >Kelloe but when i looked here: > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/ > >in order to find the batch number for the parish and search the IGI >Kelloe isnt on there! > Hi John, Kelloe is not covered by the IGI, along with a couple of other Co. DUR parishes such as Lamesley, Heighington & Darlington. I think some Kelloe records are on the British vital records CD1 (there is also now a CD2) which is available from the LDS. More information on BVR here <http://productsupport.familysearch.org/supportroot/Eng/Frameset_Products .asp?ReqPg=Productask.asp&Product=BRITISL&FAQ=BritishIslesVR2&DisplayName =British+Isles+Vital+Records+Second+Edition&Color=green> There is some information on the parish of Kelloe here on GENUKI. <http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Kelloe/index.html> >i was also told they moved to somewhere like Beadale, does anyone know >of this - is it nearby and what parish would it be? > >thanks! Bedale is in North Yorkshire. <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Bedale/index.html> Probably your first step is to obtain Alfred SAYERS birth certificate to confirm where he was born, and then work back with marriage certificates of his parents etc. Would Thomas have been around in 1901 - perhaps you could find him on the census? <http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/> Hope this helps. -- Helen Oram

Hi wonder if anyone can help. Ive just started on the SAYERS line of my family, im very short of info, i think my Gfather Albert was born in Coxhoe and his father was called Thomas, thats about it! Can anybody tell me what parish Coxhoe comes under - had thought that maybe it was Kelloe but when i looked here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/ in order to find the batch number for the parish and search the IGI Kelloe isnt on there! i was also told they moved to somewhere like Beadale, does anyone know of this - is it nearby and what parish would it be? thanks!

Helen -----Original Message----- From: relder [mailto:relder@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:56 AM To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-DUR] Nellie Does anyone no what Nellie was short for about the 1920 period Bob ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== U.K. PhoneDirectory http://www.bt.com/phonenetuk/ Looking for an address in the U.K. try, http://www.streetmap.co.uk/

I am looking for information for my family tree on my dads side I amlooking for the names PARKER My grandfather was called John William PARKER his wife was called Mary Jane HORNER they came from the Felling Area (High lanes) Other names linked with my family tree are TRAINOR, BRYDON, DAVIDSON and BELLIS Any information would be helpful Alison Scott -----Original Message----- From: red22 [mailto:red22@hgclc.org] Sent: 20 January 2004 7:58 To: ENG-DUR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: PARKER HORNER FELLING I am looking for information for my family tree on my dads side I amlooking for the names PARKER My grandfather was called John William PARKER his wife was called Mary Jane HORNER they came from the Felling Area (High lanes) Other names linked with my family tree are TRAINOR, BRYDON, DAVIDSON and BELLIS Any information would be helpful Alison Scott Legal Disclaimer: This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The opinions expressed in this message are those of the sender and not those of Heworth Grange Comprehensive School or Heworth Grange City Learning Centre. Legal Disclaimer: This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the sender by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The opinions expressed in this message are those of the sender and not those of Heworth Grange Comprehensive School or Heworth Grange City Learning Centre.