Hi list I am after a big favor from some kind soul My Gt uncle Stanley Scott died ww 1 but all knowledge off him has been lost He was born in Jarrow in 1895 his last know Address was the 1901 census living 118 ELLISON STREET JARROW ON TYNE he is not listed on the Commonwealth war grave site and can find nothing about him we do not even know which regiment he was in What I was looking for does anyone on the list live nearby and if so could they look in the local church to see if his name is recorded there and if so send it to me I know this is a lot to ask but it would be nice and fitting to be able to record some info about him Yours Francis

Francis There are several S. Scott entries on CWGC that have no age or next of kin details so I was wondering how could you eliminate them from your search? There is a S Scott commemorated at Jarrow Townhall with no details as far as regiment.I found it through GENUKI.Maybe there are records there at town hall? Good luck in your search Len Wood London Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Wright" <francis@wright334.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: [ENG-DUR] HELP WITH A LOST SOLDIER > Hi list I am after a big favor from some kind soul > My Gt uncle Stanley Scott died ww 1 but all knowledge off him has been lost He was born in Jarrow in 1895 > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ====

Hi List, I am back after being off list for a while. Since we may have new subscribers, I thought I would remind everyone again. Also, if you have both a hotmail and a regular e-mail, please do not send your requests with the hotmail address. I just hit reply and send your images. Your mailboxes in Hotmail are not large enough and my e-mails bounce thus wasting everyone's time because I have to resend request for different address and then send image again. :-) I am offering to try and find lost ancestors on the 1891 census anywhere in England. I am not using CD's so addresses will not be of any help to me. I only ask for a few things to help me identify the correct family for you. I have asked already and was told that I am not breaking copywrite rules, etc. as long as I am not doing this for a profit, etc. I am only trying to help others break down their brick walls. After replying to a person on their request, I delete all replies to them and any images after 2 days. I need the complete 1881 Or 1901 copy for the entire census of the family showing their birth dates, towns and counties of birth. Please do not use abbreviations as I do not know what they mean. I am not in the UK. Sometimes, with this index, I have to use only the first name of a person and their town of birth to track the family. The transcribers sometimes can't read and make mistakes that a soundex search will not find. You may ask for as many requests as you like but only one census family household per e-mail request. That gives everyone a fair chance to get their request answered fast and also so I do not get confused as to who you are looking for. If there are any other questions, I will be happy to answer them. If I find your family, I will send you a .jpg image of the census page. Occasionally, the family is split between two pages and the download will take longer. I scan all my incoming and outgoing e-mail with Norton 2003 and it is checked daily for updates. Sue in Florida macduff@infionline.net

In a message dated 02/02/2004 17:30:53 GMT Standard Time, irene.marlborough@syngenta.com writes: > George MARLBOROUGH (variant MALBROUGH) who was "native of the parish of St > Nicholas, Durham" and also "native of Hall Garth in the county of Durham". I > had a quick look and the baptisms for St Nicholas are on the IGI but there > are no MARLBOROUGHs or even anything like it. > > Here's the question. Where would I look for a baptism for my George c. 1764, > if he wasn't baptised at St. Nicholas's? > You could try any of the other six ancient parishes of Durham City: St Margaret (of Antioch: Crossgate), St Giles (Gilesgate), St Oswald (Elvet), St Mary le Bow (North Bailey), St Mary the Less (South Bailey) or the Cathedral (St Mary Magdalen). However, I would first try Pittington (St Lawrence), as that part of Pittington where the church is located is known as Pittington Hallgarth. Pittington is immediately ENE of Durham City and has a common boundary with the original extent of St Giles' parish. I would expect brief summaries of the baptisms in all of these places to be on the IGI. Of course there were also some non-Church of England churches in Durham: an Independent Church in Claypath (later in Framwellgate) and two Roman Catholic establishments in Old Elvet - the Jesuit Chapel and the Chapel of the Secular Clergy. Any surviving non-C-of-E registers will be among those deposited with the Registrar General in 1837. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

I'm trying to trace all 18-19th century NRY, DUR and NBL MARLBOROUGHs and hook them to the correct family. To that end I've been looking at the PR's for Stockton St Thomas which lists a family I hadn't come across before. Helpfully it listed the place of birth of the parents on the baptism. So I need to know about a George MARLBOROUGH (variant MALBROUGH) who was "native of the parish of St Nicholas, Durham" and also "native of Hall Garth in the county of Durham". I had a quick look and the baptisms for St Nicholas are on the IGI but there are no MARLBOROUGHs or even anything like it. Here's the question. Where would I look for a baptism for my George c. 1764, if he wasn't baptised at St. Nicholas's? Irene

Hello James: Ancestry has indexed the 1891 census for all of England and Wales and a nationwide search is possible. The index is not perfect but I believe this 1891 index is better than the one for 1901. So I looked for your RUDMANs and they are not to be found the way you specified. I widened my search to a Soundex for the whole country. This included variations such as RODMAN, READMAN etc. but still no joy. This called for some creative searching and I wondered if the index could have them indexed as something completely different - always a possibility and especially so with non-local indexers. So I started looking for 6 year old Agnes who was born in Stockton. There were some but all were from families which gave no room to be your Agnes. So I moved to 5 year olds in case she hadn't had her birthday yet. Still no real luck but I found this entry which may be worth looking into. 4 Union Street, Stockton RG12/4052 Folio 80 p25 Jno Harburn and wife Mary with sons George 29, William, 18 and Henry 15. After the sons, were listed Ann Eliza aged 24 and two granddaughters Elizabeth aged 6 and Agnes aged 5. All were born Stockton except Mary born Wilby, Yks. I'm guessing that you have been unable to find her birth record. This would be the case if her surname were actually other than Rudman. Assuming that Agnes was enumerated at all and assuming that she made it onto the index (a big if) - this is the only Agnes of about the right age born in Stockton with a potential mother Eliza. I don't know how helpful this can be if you have no other family information but perhaps there might be something to ring a bell... Maybe ENOCH can do better. All the best, Irene -----Original Message----- From: James Brock-Mezciems [mailto:j.brockmezciems@btopenworld.com] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:29 AM To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-DUR] RUDMAN Hello All If any kind soul has access to the 1891 census, I would very much appreciate a look up for Elizabeth RUDMAN (about 40) and her daughter Agnes RUDMAN (about 6) Agnes was my grandmother whom I think was born in Stockton workhouse, but it seems from birth (1885) to marriage (1905) she disappeared from the face of the earth. She has no father recorded on her birth certificate, but names a George Henry RUDMAN - Herbalist as her father on marriage. Any information would be marvellous. Many thanks - James Certified Virus free, protected by Norton Antivirus. Web Site; www.jamesolive.co.uk ______________________________

I have been asked to help trace my cousins family all I have at the moment, no dates only the name Thomas Hudson Wood, who lived in Roker, Sunderland and who worked at Monkwearmouth Colliery. Question would Roker come under it's own Registration for the census or does it come under two or more Districts. Any help or advise grateful received Bob

----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVE GRIGGS" <davegriggs5@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-DUR-SHILDON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Mayes Family > Hi all, > Can someone please help me with the following family? > > John Mayes married Elizabeth Ann Lindsey in 1879 at Shotton. > > Their children so far known are George William 1881-1881 > Elizabeth A 1883 > John W 1885 > Charlotte 1887 > Eleanor M 1888 > Mary S 1890 > Harriet 1892-1894 not proved. > > They lived at Front Row Shotton in 1881 > Haswell Moor in 1891 > Ryhope in 1901 > > John was a miner who had gone North from Little Maplestead Essex where he > was born. > Elizabeth Lindsey was the daughter of William and Elizabeth Ann nee Swinburn > born Sunderland 1860. > > Any info on family or locations would be great. > > Regards > Dave > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.564 / Virus Database: 356 - Release Date: 19/01/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.576 / Virus Database: 365 - Release Date: 30/01/2004

In a message dated 02/02/2004 12:06:45 GMT Standard Time, relder@tiscali.co.uk writes: > Question would Roker come under it's own Registration for the census You don't say which census, but Roker probably comes under Monkwearmouth. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 01/02/2004 17:54:10 GMT Standard Time, gordon.mccallum2@ntlworld.com writes: > I am helping a friend search for her deceased fathers family,his name was > Nixon Moody born around the 1920's > possibly in Consett but she is not sure.Can anyone please help her get > started on her family tree. > Thanks > Ann > Ann: If that is all she knows then she should begin by searching through the GRO Quarterly Indexes to all births in England and Wales (sometimes called, wrongly, by beginners and by some who should know better, the "St Catherine's House Indexes"), seeking the reference to his birth registration. Shew will then be able to purchase a copy of his birth certificate which will tell her the names of his parents and where and when he was born, plus his father's occupation etc. Copies of the GRO indexes on microfilm or microfiche, will be found in many reference libraries and some County Recrod Offices throughout the country. Beyond that it may be a case of getting his parents' marriage certificate in the same way. Your first aim should be to get back to 1901, the year of the latest available census. If you know that he would have been baptised in a particular church then you may be able to make use of its registers, which may well have been deposited in Durham County Record Office, especially if the family were Church of England. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hello all Does anyone else have an interest in HOBSONs and ROBINSONs of Stanhope? John and Mary were raising a family in Stanhope in the 1720s, then moved to Kirkby Thore in Westmorland. John might have been moving back to Westmorland, but Mary ROBINSON could have been from county Durham. Thanks in anticipation. Dave Huddart Stourbridge, England Genuki Westmorland maintainer http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/

Hello All, I am currently researching the following surnames from Durham/Cleveland area: Colman, Bates, Douglas, and Verrill. I would be very grateful to hear from anybody who has any info. Also does anybody have any links to free access to the 1861 & 1871 Census. Many regards Val

I am helping a friend search for her deceased fathers family,his name was Nixon Moody born around the 1920's possibly in Consett but she is not sure.Can anyone please help her get started on her family tree. Thanks Ann

In a message dated 01/02/2004 15:06:59 GMT Standard Time, Mauriceroytaylor@aol.com writes: > Could SKS let me know if the Parish of Stranton is included in either > Hutchinson or Fordyce > Maurice: Not having either of those histories at my finger-tips I cannot give you a definite answer, but as far as I know, they both cover the whole of Co Durham (in various volumes) and so they should both cover Stranton parish. However, it is not uncommon for historians to leave the start of their magni opi until they are quite elderly and before they get them finished the inevitable happens, so I may be wrong (there's a moral here for all of us who keep on putting off the writing-up of our Family History and the donation of a copy to the NDFHS Library!). Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

Hello List Could SKS let me know if the Parish of Stranton is included in either Hutchinson or Fordyce TIA Yours Aye Maurice TAYLOR temporarily in Surrey England

Hello All If any kind soul has access to the 1891 census, I would very much appreciate a look up for Elizabeth RUDMAN (about 40) and her daughter Agnes RUDMAN (about 6) Agnes was my grandmother whom I think was born in Stockton workhouse, but it seems from birth (1885) to marriage (1905) she disappeared from the face of the earth. She has no father recorded on her birth certificate, but names a George Henry RUDMAN - Herbalist as her father on marriage. Any information would be marvellous. Many thanks - James Certified Virus free, protected by Norton Antivirus. Web Site; www.jamesolive.co.uk

In a message dated 01/02/2004 10:45:57 GMT Standard Time, SREVELEY@satx.rr.com writes: > >>As far as I am aware there are no "other Jarrows"<< > . > Parts of Jarrow became part of Jarrow Grange Christ Church (1868); Jarrow > St. Andrew; Jarrow St. John the Baptist (After 1800); Jarrow St. Mark (1906); > Jarrow St. Peter (1881); Jarrow Venerable Bede (c. 1903). > Sarah: These are not "other Jarrows". They are "other parishes within the one and only town of Jarrow". In research, precision is everything. > >>The NDFHS publishes transcripts of the MIs from, among other non-Jarrow > places, (a) Jarrow Municipal Cemetery and (b) Jarrow St Paul's parish > churchyard. Both these will be listed on their web-site.<< > > The NDFHS just lists TD 23 Jarrow St Paul S Tyneside Branch on their website > for MIs. I put in that clarification when I re-read her post that just asked > for MIs, not other registers. RC 4 Jarrow - St Bede (RC) Mar 1863-1916 > Index and CB 34 Jarrow Cemetery were not listed under monumental > inscriptions. > It seems that CB 34 must be a Catholic Burial register, not the MI list compiled for the NDFHS a few years ago by John Ashburner and friends. The reference to S Tyneside branch is no doubt to the fact that it was a group of people from the S Tyneside branch who made to MI list, and not any one individual. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

In a message dated 01/02/2004 07:28:47 GMT Standard Time, j.brockmezciems@btopenworld.com writes: > If any kind soul has access to the 1891 census, I would very much > appreciate a look up for Elizabeth RUDMAN (about 40) and her daughter Agnes RUDMAN > (about 6) > James: To give you an idea of what you have asked for, the CD-ROM edition of the 1891 census of Co Durham runs to ten CDs (not indexed)! Even with a supposition that she would be near Stockton, that is quite something to ask (and she might have been across the Tees in the North Riding of Yorkshire!). Your search needs to be much more focussed. The best way of beginning would be to purchase the CD called ENOCH (Eighteen Ninety One Census Search) from Cleveland FHS. It indexes the 1891 census for the whole of South Durham and North Yorkshire. Its limits are, to the north, a line from Hartlepool to Bishop Auckland and, to the south, a line due west from Whitby. Best wishes, Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist - Northumberland and Co Durham.

In a message dated Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:34 AM Central Standard Time, GNicresearch@aol.com writes: >>As far as I am aware there are no "other Jarrows"<< . Parts of Jarrow became part of Jarrow Grange Christ Church (1868); Jarrow St. Andrew; Jarrow St. John the Baptist (After 1800); Jarrow St. Mark (1906); Jarrow St. Peter (1881); Jarrow Venerable Bede (c. 1903). >>The NDFHS publishes transcripts of the MIs from, among other non-Jarrow places, (a) Jarrow Municipal Cemetery and (b) Jarrow St Paul's parish churchyard. Both these will be listed on their web-site.<< The NDFHS just lists TD 23 Jarrow St Paul S Tyneside Branch on their website for MIs. I put in that clarification when I re-read her post that just asked for MIs, not other registers. RC 4 Jarrow - St Bede (RC) Mar 1863-1916 Index and CB 34 Jarrow Cemetery were not listed under monumental inscriptions. Regards, Sarah