I am trying to research the YELD and CHAMBERS families and in the IGI have found the marriage of Ellen Mary Frances Margaret YELD to Robert Ewbank CHAMBERS at New Castle On Tyne, Durham on 15th Sept. 1826. She died in 1881 aged 74, so must have been born c.1807. Robert Ewbank CHAMBERS was born on 23rd April 1790 according to IGI, again in New Castle. I am most anxious to trace both the YELD and CHAMBERS parents and any help or suggestions you can give would be most appreciated. Best wishes, Isabel

Looking for any details on John Redhead living at 33 Sea View, Westoe Durham at time of 1881 census. Born 1819 Earsdon Northumberland and married to Susannah Burnicle from Whitby. John was an Alderman , JP and Iron shipbuilder. Would welcome any further details from 1861 and 1871 census Thanks Dot

I have just joined this mailing list and wondered if anyone out there can help me? I am researching Wilcox and have an Orpah Wilcox whose parents are George Wilcox and Maria Burge. Is anyone researching the same as me? If so, have lots of information of Orpah's marriage and grandchildren coming to Bristol. Will love to hear from anyone with same connections. Other surnames connected are: Webb, Andrews, Russell, Birch and Membery. Louise

Hello, Is anyone researching the DINSLEY family? Just started on this line after receiving a marriage certificate today. Robert DINSLEY from Sexhow YKS married Mary. They lived in Sadberge DUR in 1851, and had children Thomas 3 & Elizabeth 1. By 1861 Mary is a widow, still in Sadberge, and there are more children: Joseph age 9 and Jane Ann 11mths. There was also a son John born around 1862 according to the 1881 census. It is therefore probable that John was illegitimate (there was a widowed lodger in the 1861 household!) Joseph DINSLEY married Jane (possibly LEE born Newcastle - there is a marriage registered at S. Shields Dec 1875 which I have yet to investigate) and had the following known children, according to 1881 and 1901 censuses: George DINSLEY born S. Shields about 1878 Joseph " " " " 1880 Edward " " DUR Willington about 1883* Ellen " " DUR Willington about 1885 Sarah " " " " " 1888 Mary " " " " 1890 James " " " " " 1892 Alice Ann " " " " " 1894* Arthur " " " " " 1896 The family is spelt DUNSLEY in the 1901 census index. * Alice Ann married George HOWE at Durham registry office Dec 1917. One of the witnesses was Edward DINSLEY, and her father Joseph was deceased. The address of the DINSLEY family was 33 Catherine Street, Willington DUR at that date. Any takers? -- Helen Oram

Hi List, Would anyone look-up the above for a Annie LOFTHOUSE with her father Frances in St James' Durham? She was born abt 1854 according to marriage cert in 1884 and 1881c. She was not living at home at the 1881c so no info on family. TIA Helen West Aust.

Hello List, I have a marriage cert. which says Newcastle on Tyne, Parish of St Nicholas. I have had a look at the Durham Records Office web site and there are more than one St Nicholas so I looked for New Castle on Tyne but could only see St Nicholas in Durham as a possible. Would that be the one? Would someone living in Tanfield and Pittington go there to get married? TIA Helen

In a message dated 13/02/2004 05:41:12 GMT Standard Time, helenh48@westnet.com.au writes: > I have a marriage cert. which says Newcastle on Tyne, Parish of St > Nicholas. > > I have had a look at the Durham Records Office web site and there are more > than one St Nicholas so I looked for New Castle on Tyne but could only see St > Nicholas in Durham as a possible. > > Would that be the one?  Would someone living in Tanfield and Pittington go > there to get married? >        St Nicholas is one of what are generally regarded as four ancient (ie pre-1600) parishes of Newcastle.  I put it that way because in theory the other three (St John, St Andrew and All Saints) are officially Parochial Chapelries of St Nicholas.  Only the Vicar of St Nicholas was entitled to call himself "The Vicar of Newcastle".  When the county of Northumberland was separated from Durham Diocese by the church in 1882, to become a Diocese of its own, it was Newcastle St Nicholas which became the Cathedral Church of the new Diocese, which was therefore called the Diocese of Newcastle, and it remains Newcastle Cathedral to this day.  Newcastle also has a RC Cathedral, St Mary's, centre of the RC Diocese of Hexham and Newcastle.        The registers of Newcastle St Nicholas are deposited in Northumberland County Record Office Morpeth Record Centre).  Those to 1812 were transcribed about a century ago by Herbert Maxwell Wood and are included in the Wood transcripts in Newcastle Central Library (microfilms in the Moorpeth Records Centre and available to buy on microfiche from Northfiche, 38 Archery Rise, Neville's Cross, Durham, DH1 4LA).  Marriages 181333-37 are in the NDFHS 1813/37 Northumberland Marriage Index (microfiche: see their web site), burials 1813-37 are indexed on microfiche by Original Indexes.  The BTs from the 1760s to (at least) 1837 are in Durham University Library, Archives and Special Collections.  The MIs have been published on microfiche by Original Indexes.  Full details of the church's long and interesting history are in all the Histories of Newcastle and its famous lantern tower is as much a symbol of Newcastle as is the   shape of the Tyne Bridge or of the (Gateshead) Millennium Bridge, being silhouetted on every Newcastle Brown Ale label!        There are many other local churches dedicated to St Nicholas, such as those of Gosforth and Cramlington in Northumberland and of Durham in Co Durham.  Given that St Nicholas is the patron saint of merchants, it is not surprising to find his churches in town market places, as in Newcastle (end of the Bigg/Cloth/Groat Market area) and in Durham City (where St Nicholas' was/is the "central" church of the City and a feature of Durham Market Place).        However, marriages were not held just wherever the persons concerned fancied having it.  By tradition they were always in the parish of which the bride was a resident (I was reading only in this morning's newspaper an article which said that the C of E is currently considering relaxing that rule!).  The main exception was where the wedding was by licence.  Then the couple could take the licence to any church in the Diocese and more or less demand to be married there, even though the licence was usually "directed at" a particular church.  If a man from Pittington Parish or from Tanfield Chapelry was married in eitiher Durham St  Nicholas, Newcastle St Nicholas or any other St Nicholas, the usual reason would be because his bride was living in that parish at the time of the wedding (note: that says absolutely nothing at all about where she had been born: it is the place of residence at the time of marriage which counts).        When reading documents we do need to put ourselves as far as we can in the position of the person who wrote them.  If a document originating in Durham City says "St Nicholas" then it probably means "Durham St  Nicholas".  If one originating in Newcastle says "St Nicholas" then it probably means Newcastle St Nicholas.                           Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Researcher NBL & DUR. Local research in depth by the local expert. NEW: - Record Searches: you specify the records, I search them!

Don't forget that 1891 also covers Wales as well as the Isle of Man and Channel Islands. To quote ancestry from one of their message boards "Please note: Percentages being used to calculate completion are based on Civil Registration data. Therefore, they will not exactly match the actual 1871 counts, but can be used as a rough guide. Also, we will not declare any county 100% complete until all counties have been posted and our final clean-up project is complete (thus you will see many 98% complete counties). Released 23 Jan 2004 Middlesex - 247,540 names, 97% complete" They have added Shropshire 1871 today. Several Welsh counties are also available from 1871. Martin Briscoe Fort William M&LFHS | Gwynedd FHS > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] > Sent: 12 February 2004 17:24 > To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-DUR] 1891 census on Ancestry.com > > Hello Listers, > I've seen a few queries recently about people looking for > folks on the 1891 census. For those of you who don't know, > the 1891 census is complete for England, and fully searchable > by surname and soundex. I have just solved a couple of brick > walls right away. There is also some 1871 available, but > seems to be only Middlesex, not the rest of the country, and > I cannot tell if 1871 Middlesex is complete or not on > Ancestry.com . Does anyone know? > Janet in Canada,

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Hello Listers, I've seen a few queries recently about people looking for folks on the 1891 census. For those of you who don't know, the 1891 census is complete for England, and fully searchable by surname and soundex. I have just solved a couple of brick walls right away. There is also some 1871 available, but seems to be only Middlesex, not the rest of the country, and I cannot tell if 1871 Middlesex is complete or not on Ancestry.com . Does anyone know? Janet in Canada, _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

In message <001801c3f155$0a21b040$46270350@computer>, Anne Hamilton <annehamilton@ntlworld.com> writes >Some relatives got married in 1874 and the marriage was solemnized at >the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Bishop Auckland in the County of Durham. > >Does anyone know if this chapel still exists as I would like to see >what it looks like, and does anyone knows exactly where it might >be/have been located? > >Many thanks >Anne Hello Anne, According to Bishop Auckland in Old Picture postcards ISBN 90 288 3279 3 by Chris Foote Wood, the Wesleyan Chapel was built in 1866 on the site of the former chapel which was built in 1842 in Back Bondgate. Later it became auction rooms and was eventually demolished. There is a picture . Another later Wesleyan Chapel was built on the site of Brougham Place (where my ancestors lived in 1890!) in around 1913, this was on that part of South Road which later became part of Newgate Street. Hope this helps. -- Helen Oram

Some relatives got married in 1874 and the marriage was solemnized at the Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Bishop Auckland in the County of Durham. Does anyone know if this chapel still exists as I would like to see what it looks like, and does anyone knows exactly where it might be/have been located? Many thanks Anne

In a message dated 12/02/2004 01:48:59 GMT Standard Time, Hdtmom@aol.com writes: > Hello All, > Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Gateshead in Durham Co. > I would like to check for any Maddison families. Possibly a Lionel or John > > Maddison. Thank you for any help! > > Linda > Linda: Gateshead is much too large for easy, convenient searching of the whole 1851 census. However, the NDFHS publishes an index to it in microfiche and booklet formats. (see www.ndfhs.org.uk). I recommend you to purchase a copy - then you will know whether the people you seek were in Gateshead at the time, if so the names and ages of everyone of that surname in the household, plus the reference - ie the piece (HO 107/2402) and the folio number. Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU (0191 417 9546) Professional Genealogist, NBL & DUR. On-the-spot research in depth by a local expert!

Hello All, Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Gateshead in Durham Co. I would like to check for any Maddison families. Possibly a Lionel or John Maddison. Thank you for any help! Linda

Hi List, I am desparately trying to find in the 1851 census George HILDROP born 1805 in Leyburn, and his wife Margaret nee LOUGH born 1815, I say wife, but cannot find any marriage registered. It is the same with their first born, also named George. He tragically drowned in the river at Armley Leeds. Daughter Ann was born 1850 St. Nicholas, Durham Son William was born 1852 Queens yard Leeds, though there is no Queens Yard in the 1851 census. I have been lucky in that HILDROP is quite an unusual name and since the first registrations began in 1837, I have noted every HILDROP, and can claim them all. My 3 year brick wall has me completely stumped. Any help please???? Bob HILDROP Looking for HILDROP,s anywhere, any time

For whoever had the kindness to answer my query in January and for whoever followed the messages on the list. As one correspondent suggested, it looks like the birth certificate in my hands was issued AFTER adoption and not before. Mainly because "Adopted" is in the past tense. Why didn't I find out myself … ..? André STUECKELBERGER in Sydney

> ______________________________ > Dear Tom, Have been using the Tees Valley site without any problems so far, although I've only used it to check dates rather than to purchase any certificates yet. Sorry I don't know what your problem is but it works for me. Regards Anna > > From: "Tom Wood" <ttwood49@hotmail.com> > Date: Sun Feb 8, 2004 5:43:29 PM Europe/London > To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-DUR] Tees Valley Incexes site > > > Is there anyone who uses the Tees Valley Indexes site at > www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk? When I select the Search option all I > get is: > > Search Error > > Missing arguments in query! > > Search Again > > > Does anyone know if this option ever worked? > > Tom >

I have just subsscribed to this list and would ask for any assistance possible. I have the marriage certificate of David Elliot, a bachelor and miner, and Isabella Thomas, a spinster at age 18, on March 13, 1847 at St. Giles in Durham. His father was John Elliot, a hairdresser. her father was George Thomas, a miner, who according to family speculation or lore was originally from Wales. Both David and Isabella were living at Gilligate Head at the time of marriabe, and are my gg grandparents. Their oldest child Elizabeth married Thomas Cutty and the second Sarah married Thomnas Henderson. What would a hairdresser be doing in 1847 other than the obvious? Were there mines in the near vicinity in 1847? Anyone connected to these families? I would like to hear from you! Are any of these folks listed on the 1841 or 1851 census? Any suggestions to locate appropriate census data? Thank you very much for any assistance! Carl Willis, Box 782, Columbia, MO 65205 USA

Please would SKS look up the family of Stephen Wood in the 1861 Census. He had a daughter Ann who would have been about 17. In 1867 they were living in Albion Street, Stockton. Any other pre-1881 census information would also be wonderful. Many thanks Angela Shirt

Would it be possible if someone has the 1871 census for Durham if they could look up 48 Dock Street, Monkwearmouth Shore. Looking to see if the Mankin family are still there. Many thanks Kim