Do you have any of these people in your research ? Harriet Ann Dodgshon b.1809, d. 1840 Houghton le Springs. Married 7 Nov 1830 St Peters' Monkwearmouth to James Widdowfield/Widowfield Parents Thomas and Ann [Anderson] Dodgshon. Might have had a sister, Caroline. Margaret Shield b. 1787 + or - married 1806 to Robert Widdowfield If you know or have them in your research please send email. Thank you, Phyllis....California....USA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Hello, I am new to this list, and am hoping someone can help me a bit. My grandmother, Elizabeth S. Young, was born in 1880 in Gateshead and appears on the 1881 census with her family. Apparently my gr. grandmother (Agnes Young) died a few years later, and the children were sent to live with their maternal grandmother in Scotland. I could not find my gr. grandfather, William Young (abt. 37 in 1891), on the 1891 census, either alone or reunited with his young family. He supposedly worked as a printer. Would anyone on the list have any city directories for Gateshead in the years following the 1881 census? I would like to find out if he stayed and worked in Gateshead, which is what I had been told. Thank you for any help. Regards, Nancy

Hi Carole, I for one, ( off list almost as it is a personal opinion) would like to think that Elizabeth was at the forefront of suffragetism! (excuse spelling if incorrect). (back to list) - However, having had a look at the 1881 census on the LDS site and noting on the household page following the Barras family, that there is no occupation mentioned for the Head of household (William Norman & family) and then having had a quick glance at the 1901 census for that possible William Norman which (if correct William Norman) says he is a builder and contractor with a Fred Norman living in the same household who was a joiner, then I could take a guess (pure supposition) that the 1881 census was incorrectly transcribed. What a shame. (However, I might be wrong...) Regards Anne > > THOMAS BARRAS Head Male 50 South Shields, Durham, > England ( Inspector of Nuisances) > ELIZABETH BARRAS Wife Female 47 South Shields, Durham, > England. (Joiner & Cartwright Employing 1 man and and Two > lads) > > Could this be an occupation for a woman in 1881, or do you think it is a > mis-transcription ? > >

Hi Carol You never know. My Great Grandmother was a Butcher. Tony Surtees tsurt@btinternet.com Surtees Haydon Bridge 1812/13 Surtees Darlington 1840, Durham, Crook, Jarrow 1840-1918 Robsons Wharton N'land, Birtley, Chester-le-Street 1830-to date Coates Warminster 1870, Sunderland 1881 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Looking for "BARRASS" I found this family on the 1881 census, in Chester-le-street ! THOMAS BARRAS Head Male 50 South Shields, Durham, England ( Inspector of Nuisances) ELIZABETH BARRAS Wife Female 47 South Shields, Durham, England. (Joiner & Cartwright Employing 1 man and and Two lads) Could this be an occupation for a woman in 1881, or do you think it is a mis-transcription ? Looking for BARRASS, WALKER, CARR and WALMSLEY in the "Washington/Chester-le-street area ! Carole Robinson Member of NDFHS

In a message dated 10/03/2004 20:04:23 GMT Standard Time, annehamilton@ntlworld.com writes: > Fred Norman living in the same household who > was a joiner, then I could take a guess (pure supposition) that the 1881 > census was incorrectly transcribed. > What a shame. (However, I might be wrong...) > That could be the answer. In the 1894 Directory there is William Norman, Joiner, Builder and Cartwright. of West Lane Chester-le-Street. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 10/03/2004 17:40:02 GMT Standard Time, robert@hildrop.freeserve.co.uk writes: > what the 'school' really was. Was it a "naughty girls school" > Some Industrial Schools were day schools and others residential. They were associated with Reformatories, see http://www.institutions.org.uk/reformatories/ref/reformatories4.htm The Industrial School Act dates back to 1857 with amendments 1866 emanating from the youthful offender's act of 1854. Boys were sent to residential Industrial Schools from the age of nine to sixteen years, where they were educated and taught subjects such as tailoring, shoemaking, turning, etc. At the age of sixteen they were discharged, and employment found for them. Girls were sent to them from the age of nine to twelve years, and were detained until they were sixteen, and were presumably taught dressmaking, cookery, etc. Day Industrial Schools were also for the children of parents who either could not or would not keep them at school. The children, by order of a magistrate, were compelled to attend from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m., during which time they were taught elementary school work. Three meals a day were provided for them, and time not taken up with lessons was occupied with light employment. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello List, I have asked this quetion some time ago, but as yet have not really resolved the nagging doubts as to what the 'school' really was. Was it a "naughty girls school" I the 1881 census I have a Sarah HILDROP age 13 in the above school in Doncaster, but cannot place who she really was. I have searched the index's (indice) for several years either side of her suposed birth date. French Gate and Marsh Gate were close by each other, where her cousins (I assume) lived. Has anybody any Directories or any information on the school. Any pointers please. Bob HILDROP Looking for HILDROP,s anywhere, any time

In a message dated 10/03/2004 17:40:02 GMT Standard Time, robert@hildrop.freeserve.co.uk writes: > > I the 1881 census I have a Sarah HILDROP age 13 in the above school in > Doncaster, Perhaps someone on a List relevant to Doncaster (Yorkshire!) might be able to help, but it is a long way (over 100 miles) from Co Durham. Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU NBL/DUR family history research in depth by THE local expert. Record searching service: you name the records, I search them!

There is the Monkwearmouth Local History Group at http://www.tomorrows-history.com/CommunityProjects/PG0100010001/Monkwearmouth-index.htm They have produced some booklets about Monkwearmouth. Regards Stan Mapstone

Thanks Geoff for the information on Monkwearmouth. I too have ancestors from this area and am very interested in its history. Christine --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Having recently discovered that some of my LINES ancestors moved from Norfolk in 1893, and lived in Pelton Row, Pelton Fell, I am interested to know if Pelton Row, or it's houses still exist. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

My thanks to all who replied to my query re: the whereabouts of Monkwearmouth. Especially Janis, Helen and Geoff. What a super lot of genies you are :-)) Regards Helen

Looking for "BARRASS" I found this family on the 1881 census, in Chester-le-street ! THOMAS BARRAS Head Male 50 South Shields, Durham, England ( Inspector of Nuisances) ELIZABETH BARRAS Wife Female 47 South Shields, Durham, England. (Joiner & Cartwright Employing 1 man and and Two lads) Could this be an occupation for a woman in 1881, or do you think it is a mis-transcription ? Looking for BARRASS, WALKER, CARR and WALMSLEY in the "Washington/Chester-le-street area ! Carole Robinson Member of NDFHS

In a message dated 09/03/2004 16:30:55 GMT Standard Time, HelenMSul@aol.com writes: > Monkwearmouth. Being a total newcomer to this part > of the country, could SKS please tell me exactly where this is. > Helen: Monkwearmouth is best described as "Sunderland north of the river", ie that part of the City of Sunderland lying north of the River Wear. The King of Northumbria granted Benedict Biscop all the land between the Wear and the Tyne "as far west as the Roman Road" (though he didn't specify which Roman Road - the Chester-Street to Newcastle one or Dere Street or indeed the Wreckendike running west from South Shields). In the SE corner of that land Benedict built his monastery in 635 and the district around the Monastery - ie that at the mouth of the Wear, but on the Monk's side rather than on the side which became the property of the Bishop of Durham, became "the Monks' Wearmouth", as opposed to "the Bishop's Wearmouth" -ie Monkwearmouth as opposed to B ishopwearmouth. Benedict's building, altered many times over the years, evolved into Monkwearmouth St Peter's Parish Church, which still includes a small part of the fabric of that original 7th century building (and much more which, although not as old as that, is still pre-Conquest). The fact that 7th century glass discovered there is considered to be the earliest known use of glass north of the Alps, was one of the main reasons, together with Sunderland's long-established glass industry, for establishing the National Glass Centre more or less adjacent to St Peters, between it and the river bank. The monastic tradition of learning is maintained by the campus of Sunderland University being also next to St Peter's. However, the greatest contribution made to our civilisation by the monastery at Monkwearmouth, I would say, lies in it having been the boyhood home of the great Bede, who went on to spend most of his adult life in the daughter monastery of St Paul's, in Jarrow. Geoff Nicholson 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU NBL/DUR family history research in depth by THE local expert. Record searching service: you name the records, I search them!

In a message dated 09/03/2004 16:30:55 GMT Standard Time, HelenMSul@aol.com writes: > She > gives her place of birth as Monkwearmouth. Being a total newcomer to this > part > of the country, could SKS please tell me exactly where this is. > Monkwearmouth is a parish, in Sunderland, on the north bank of the River Wear, famous for its Saxon Church and the connection to the Venerable Bede, who is widely regarded as the 'Father of English History'.  If you put Monkwearmouth into http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ you will get a map showing the location. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello to the list, I have just managed to locate my 3xGtGrandmother, ELIZABETH THOMPSON (widow HARRALD nee MacKENZIE) in 1851 Census for Coxhoe & East Hetton. She gives her place of birth as Monkwearmouth. Being a total newcomer to this part of the country, could SKS please tell me exactly where this is. Regards Helen

Hi everyone, my name is Connie, I live in Ohio. I have just found this list & hope I do this right. I have hit a brick wall with my England roots. My gr.gr. grandparents, William & Jessie EMERY HOWE, left ENG & came to the U.S. about 1889. Jessie's brother, Francis EMERY & family came at the same time. My gr.gr.gr. grandparents George EMERY, born abt. 1821 Bristol, Glouchestershire ENG. & his wife Jessie unknown born abt. 1819 SCT, were living at #1 Billams Yard, Darlington, for the 1881 census. Living next door, at #1 Billams Yard were their daughter & son-in-law. My gr.gr. grandparents, William HOWE b: 10-1854 Kirkby Moorside, Yorkshire, ENG. died 10-20-1907 Jefferson Co. OH. Married: in Darlington, Jessie EMERY born 06-06-1857 Stockton, Co. Durham ENG died 02-10-1921 Toronto, Jefferson Co. OH. William & Jessie EMERY HOWE's children were: 1. Jessie Howe b: 12-07-1874 Darlington 2. John Howe b: 03-1877 Darlington 3. Susan Howe b: abt. 1878 Darlington 4. William Howe b: 03-1880 Darlington 5. Mary Jane Howe b: 12-21-1883 Darlington 6. Anna Howe b: 11-1885 Darlington 7. Francis Howe b: 08-04-1892 Ohio 8. James Howe b: 10-11-1895 Ohio 9. Alice Howe b: 07-14-1898 Ohio The only other child I have for George & Jessie is: Francis EMERY born 03-1851 New Castle Upon Tyne, NBL, ENG. He married Anna MOYES born 04-1854 Bamborough Castle, NBL, ENG. In the 1881 census they were living at Skip Bridge Tile Works, Hurworth, Durham. Anna's mother, Susan unknown MOYES, born abt. 1801 SCT widow of a Coast Guard man was living with them. Francis & Anna MOYES EMERY's children were: 1. Charles Emery b: 01-11-1873 Darlington 2. Elizabeth Emery b: abt. 1876 Darlington 3. Francis Emery b: 11-12-1879 Darlington 4. James Emery b: 07-1882 ENG 5. Jessie Emery b: 07-19-1889 Ohio 6. John Emery b: 08-17-1891 Ohio 7. Anna Emery b: 02-14-1894 Ohio I need all the help with this family I can get. The above is the only info I have for my Emery-Howe family. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thank you Connie

Thank you to all who replied to my question on the above subject Stacey

Tom For Charles Holland and Ellen Heald . There is an entry for both in the 2nd quarter 1855, Wigan 8c 29. Janis

List - Is there anyone who could look up a marriage in the GRO indexes? I am in need of the reference for a marriage that took place in 1855 between Charles Holland and Ellen Heald. Thanks for your help. Tom _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/