Hi David, "Genuki search engine" will find most places unless they are extinct !! http://www.genuki.org.uk/contents/ when the page comes up scroll down the page, you will find a box, type in the place name and you will get a selection of links associated with the place try clicking on the different links and if it isnt what you want, click the back button and go back to the selection. This is "Whitworth" in Durham http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Whitworth/ You can also try Google search engine http://www.google.com/ When you look or a place name always use the clues in the census for the area! because there are lots of places with the same name or simmilar in england and i dare say across the world Good luck Carole Robinson (Co Durham) There is also a ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Williams" <david.williams4153@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:02 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR] WHITWORTH > Hello everyone > Is there anyone out there, please, who can tell me where Whitworth was Back in 1881. I have someone there in the 1881 Census > (RG11 4922/16). the only Whitworth on my map is in Lancashire. Looking at the people in the household, they are all Lancashire born. Is it that the Census details that I have are incorrect in giving the address in in Whitworth, Durham? > > A second question, if I may. Is there somewhere on the Internet that I can find out in which Census District certain places are? > I've looked, but blowed if I can find anything to help. If I wanted to know, for example, where to find, say, Langley Park in 1881 and again in 1891 Census, how can I do that? > thanks. David Williams in essex > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > query board for Durham gen web > http://www.britishislesgenweb.org/cgi-bin/data/durham.cgi >

Hello everyone Is there anyone out there, please, who can tell me where Whitworth was Back in 1881. I have someone there in the 1881 Census (RG11 4922/16). the only Whitworth on my map is in Lancashire. Looking at the people in the household, they are all Lancashire born. Is it that the Census details that I have are incorrect in giving the address in in Whitworth, Durham? A second question, if I may. Is there somewhere on the Internet that I can find out in which Census District certain places are? I've looked, but blowed if I can find anything to help. If I wanted to know, for example, where to find, say, Langley Park in 1881 and again in 1891 Census, how can I do that? thanks. David Williams in essex

<<<<<In a message dated 11/05/2004 20:02:51 GMT Daylight Time, david.williams4153@ntlworld.com writes: I've looked, but blowed if I can find anything to help. If I wanted to know, for example, where to find, say, Langley Park in 1881 and again in 1891 Census, how can I do that?>>>> There is a searchable database of places in the 1891 census. This covers England, Wales and the Isle of Man and returns the County, Registration District, Registration Sub-District, PRO Piece Number and LDS Film Number. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/census_place.html Regards Stan Mapstone

<<<<<In a message dated 11/05/2004 20:02:51 GMT Daylight Time, david.williams4153@ntlworld.com writes: the only Whitworth on my map is in Lancashire. >>>>>> You could use Places in County Durham http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/dro.nsf/vwebplaces?OpenView&Startkey=A Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 11/05/2004 20:02:51 GMT Daylight Time, david.williams4153@ntlworld.com writes: Hello everyone Is there anyone out there, please, who can tell me where Whitworth was Back in 1881. I have someone there in the 1881 Census (RG11 4922/16). David: . It was precisely where it still is today! A whole place is difficult to move! . Whitwoth, Co Durham was one of the "ancient" (ie pre-1600) parishes of County Durham (NDFHS/OI parish abbreviation WHW). Although a tiny village (until they built the Bobby Shafto pub there just a few years ago there was only the church and Whitworth Hall, now a Hotel, left), Whitworth parish became much more prominent in the mid-nineteenth century when the town of Spennymoor mushroomed up a few miles way around an ironworks established mainly in the parish of Whitworth. The usual inertia of the C of E ensured that Spennymoor, with its large population remained in Whitworth parish for many years before it became an ecclesiastical parish of its own. Whitworth today, as I said above, is tiny, but being set in rural surroundings, very pretty. Some of the grounds of the Hall have been opened to the public as a sort of (free) park, with a lake full of wild fowl, deer wandering everywhere, the lovely old walled garden and, of course, that pub, named after Whitworth Hall's best-known former owner There is a programme of special events throughout the summer - the next time you are hereabouts give it a visit: it is well worth it. Whitworth is best described as a little way off the road from Spennymoor to Bishop Auckland, a few miles SW of Durham City. . A second question, if I may. Is there somewhere on the Internet that I can find out in which Census District certain places are? I've looked, but blowed if I can find anything to help. If I wanted to know, for example, where to find, say, Langley Park in 1881 and again in 1891 Census, how can I do that? thanks. David Williams in essex. It all depends on what you mean by "census district". Up to 1851 the census was organised by Registration sub-districts with, wherever practical, one piece per sub-district, but the later ones in highly populated areas had more than one piece per sub-district. As the population of Co Durham at least, boomed throughout the 19th century, there are more and more pieces with every subsequent census, especially after 1861 when the Registrar General took over responsibility from the Home Office. The best guides as to what is where are the "Street Indexes" and microfilm "Contents Lists" available in local County Record Offices, and compiled by their staff. . Geoff Nicholson . 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU Ask for details of NBL/DUR family history research in depth by THE local expert, working for YOU.

Hi Listers Problem Solved! Many thanks, Val Speed

Dear List, Looking for information on any descendants of the above: Jemima BEAVIS, born abt 1884, daughter of Joseph BEAVIS Bertram Leonard EVERSON, born abt 1883 Rhewderin, Monmouthshire, son of Jesse EVERSON & Mary Ann ? Married 2.6.1906 Moriah New Chapel, Newport, Monmouthshire. When Jemima died on 24.4.1931, address given as 4 Clyde Terrace, Yarm Rd, STOCKTON-ON-TEES. Not clear if Bertram Leonard was still alive at this time. Any information at all would be much appreciated. John Everson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.676 / Virus Database: 438 - Release Date: 03/05/04

Hi All, I am not sure that I am getting to the list? ----- Original Message ----- Subject: BRIDGNELL > Hi Listers, > I request info about the following Wesleyan Minister: > > William BRIDGNELL > Born - 1800 > died - 10 Apr 1858 - Edinburgh > Supernumery Durham circuit abt 1850 until 1858. > According to PO Dir for 1858, listed at 10 Ellison Street, Gateshead. > Questions: > Does 10 Ellison Street still exist? > Was there an obituary in the local papers? > > In anticipation, > > David K Bridgnell >

In a message dated 08/05/2004 21:00:07 GMT Daylight Time, small32@ntlworld.com writes: could someone please tell me what the abbreviation of A O W is, I have come across it twice while transcribing a census . Alison . It would help if you gave us a few more clues, such as: Which census was that (they are not all the same!)? and Which column was it in? . If it was in the "Occupation" column, then it might fall into the category of "standard occupational abbreviations" of which the best-known are MS and FS (male servant and female servant respectively) in the 1841 census or "HFW" (hand-frame weaver" found in many Lancashire censuses, or so I'm told. It coulld even be possible that you have mis-read "O O W" ("out of work")! . The fact that you need to ask should be taken as a warning to all those present-day researchers who are overly-keen to invent their own abbreviations. Unless everyone knows what it stands for then using an abbreviation tends only to add confusion to a situation. No doubt the enumerator would have said his notebook was for the eyes of the census officials only and not for the general public, so his use of what might have been an accepted abbreviation in that context was all right. However he would not have anticipated the census being as widely used today (and for non-demographic purposes as well!) any more than he could have anticipated the use of microfilm, microfiche, CDs and computers! . Geoff Nicholson . 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU Ask for details of NBL/DUR family history research in depth by THE local expert, working for YOU.

In a message dated 08/05/2004 17:11:38 GMT Daylight Time, Stanmapstone@aol.com writes: A Sherriff is the principal officer of the Crown in a county. A Mayor is simply the chairman or chairwoman of their council, and are expected to devote much time to ornamental and ceremonial functions. Regards Stan Mapstone . I agree, and would add that in times past - though I'm not sure about today - the Sheriff of Newcastle was usually regarded as a sort of "Mayor in waiting" in that a man who was elected Sheriff one year might normally expect to be made Mayor the next. The name is, of course, derived from "Shire-reeve", which says it all. . Geoff Nicholson . 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU Ask for details of NBL/DUR family history research in depth by THE local expert, working for YOU.

could someone please tell me what the abbreviation of A O W is, I have come across it twice while transcribing a census Many Thanks Alison

I have recently been to a function in Newcastle-upon-Tyne & they introduced a Sheriff with what looked like the badge of office for a Mayor. Why a Sheriff & not a Lord Mayor or just a plain Mayor, just curious Bob

Hello, On Ebay at presemnt there is an item whhich may be of interest to someone, below is the description. To find this search under the subject "County Durham". I have no connection with this auction. Noel, Timaru NZ ¿ Details :We have a G.R Veteran Reserve Enrolment Form. Un used a National Reserve raised in the county of Durham letter, and army formE,597 Notice To be given to a Man at the time of his offering to join the Militia or the Reserve Division of the Militia, signed by Cpl Clarkson,. Terriritorial Force Association of the County of Northumberland. Acknowledge of letter Also Durham County Association Acknowledgment of letter, Also a Filled in National Service Terms and conditions of Service. Filled in by Thomas Scott of Low Fell who was 55 married and a Miner Ribbleworth or Kibbleworth Colliery dated 31 March ???? I think it will be 1910 also , ¿ Condition :All items in fair readable condition, ¿ Size :Largest Letter 8" x 13" Noel Welford, Architect 192 Rockyhundreds Rd Fairview R.D.2 P.O.Box 133 TIMARU ph/fax 03 688 9200

Hi Listers I am looking for d.o.b together with christian names for Rupert Vickers b. 1884 ( from census) Living in Staindrop also justification for thinking : Eveline M b.1882 was Moira : Doris K.b.1891 was Kathleen: Rupert M. is actually Rupert W (William) b. 1884 : Thomas Lesley b. Dec 1890 Teesdale was the Lesley who emigrated Their parents were Helena Ann (Nellie) Nevison b.1846 in Darlington Co. Durham)and Thomas William Vickers b.1843 Staindrop . They were married in Darlington in the September of 1872 and lived in Staindrop where they were in business The only way the information I have on the family makes any sense is if the four children I can't find were known by their middle names. Regards Val

A Sherriff is the principal officer of the Crown in a county. A Mayor is simply the chairman or chairwoman of their council, and are expected to devote much time to ornamental and ceremonial functions. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi to all on the list, my surname interests for the West Cornforth,Ferryhill area of Durham are: HOLT and BARROW. I have James HOLT (birth approx 1869, Parr, St Helens, Lancashire) married to Mary Ann BARROW (b 1870 Holywell,Wales) m: in 1889 in Bolton, Lancashire. In the1901 census the family are living in the village of Newburgh within Lathom Lancs where Mary grew up with her family and previous ancestors. Mary and James moved with their children to West Cornforth, Durham sometime aft the 1901 census and remained there throughout their married life. They continued to have more children and had a total of 8 daughters that I can find (from a photo) the first 3 born were: Edith, Sarah & Emily HOLT, other children were: Henry Barrow Holt, Walter and John Holt, Walter was killed in Doggie pit when he was aged 20yrs. If this information fits in with your research or you know of Holt family still living in the West Cornforth area please get in touch as I have considerable research to share and photo's. My main interest is Mary BARROW's line. Kind regards Val in Lancashire. Surnames: HOLT & BARROW

This site may be of interest. Burial Ground of St Michael & All Angels Church Sunderland Street, Houghton-le-Spring, Co Durham/Sunderland Consecrated in 1854 http://www.houghton-hillside-cemetery.org.uk/ Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Listers, I request info about the following Wesleyan Minister: William BRIDGNELL Born - 1800 died - 10 Apr 1858 - Edinburgh Supernumery Durham circuit abt 1850 until 1858. According to PO Dir for 1858, listed at 10 Ellison Street, Gateshead. Questions: Does 10 Ellison Street still exist? Was there an obituary in the local papers? In anticipation, David K Bridgnell

Thank you to those who responded to the request for information. I now know the probable place to look to find the information. Thank you Jim Dolan

Hello, I have come to a halt with my BELL research. I am as far back as William BELL who lived at Escomb, but was not bapt/married or buried there. All I have on him are the dates of his children's baptisms. Child: William BELL Christening: 31 MAR 1729/30, Escomb, County Durham, Child: Elizabeth BELL Christening: 22 FEB 1730/31, Escomb, Child: Sarah BELL 14 JUL 1734 Escomb - died 1756 Escomb Child: Magdalen BELL 1736 Escomb Child: Mary BELL 24 JUL 1737 Escomb Assuming he came from one of the surrounding parishes, the most likely seems to be William BELL married Ann PEKEREL Auckland St Andrew 28 JUL 1717 they would seem to have had the following children bapt at Auckland St Andrew (from IGI) 1720-1745: Robert 14 Sept 1720 William 22 Feb 1723 Thomas 18 June 1725 Joseph Apr 1728 This fits well with a move to Escomb by 1729, and the name Joseph occurs in the next generation. However this is still just circumstantial evidence, and needs more definite proof. Hopefully once I have the burial of William I can start looking to see if he made a will. I can find no trace of the name PEKEREL, and wonder if it could be a version of PEVERELL, which is more common in the Auckland area? Can anyone connect to any of the above BELL children? The only ones that I know anything about are Elizabeth & Magdalen, who in turn both became the wife of Michael BULMAN! I am descended from Magdalen BELL. Regards, -- Helen Oram