Doesn't look like the same family as mine My ancestor was David HARDY b 1789 a barber surgeon of Newcastle, but living in Gateshead in 1851. His youngest son Joseph HARDY b 1845 was my great grandfather. Heather

hello all, I just joined the list tonight and thought i'd post my Durham interests. They are :- Smurthwaite, - Elgy, Hardy, Brewster, Pearson, Borrowdale, Goldsborough, McCartney Young. I hope to hear from some of you sometimes regards, Heather _________________________________________________________________ Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes. http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/

anyone have HARLAND OR RICHARDSON OR BATES in Durham? Michael Clouse

Hi Heather I also have HARDY interests Can you expand on yours a bit Heather heather dean wrote: > hello all, I just joined the list tonight and thought i'd post my Durham > interests. They are :- > > Smurthwaite, - > Elgy, > Hardy, > Brewster, > Pearson, > Borrowdale, > Goldsborough, > McCartney > Young. > > I hope to hear from some of you sometimes > > regards, Heather > > _________________________________________________________________ > Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes. > http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi I wonder if anyone can help me I am trying to locate the parents of a WILLIAM MOODY D.O.B. ABT 1820 born in EBCHESTER he married a MARY ANN FORSTER in 1843 DURHAM I am trying to find his parents. Thank you for any help Jan

Hi all I'm new from downunder. I am researching my ancestors John and Ann HALLIFAX who were teachers at the National School in Witton Gilbert near Durham in the late 1850s to mid 1860s. Ann died there in 1864. Would anyone be connected or have information on the school or perhaps know if any records survive? Regards Liz Vincent 02 4677 2044 / 0419 003 806 P.O. Box 111 Picton NSW 2571 Australia [email protected] www.lizvincenttours.com.au

William Moody was baptised in Ebchester 2 Jan 1818 s/o John and Jane. He has a brother John baptised 20 March 1819. Janis

The occupation is living by Independent Means (Capital I. ) and he was not Born in the County. Cheers, Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Help with occupation on 1841 in Whickham Dunstan.STEWART > > Hi list, please can someone have a look at the 1841 in Middle Row, > Whickham > Dunstan,at the occupation of James Stewart aged 25? > It looks like the twirly letter I and I have no idea what it could mean. > Also, does anyone think that the answer to "whether born in county" is a > no? > as on subsequent censuses, James says he was born Durham,Gateshead, and > there is a James Stewart on the IGI born 1817,bapt 1818 in Gateshead, > parents > William & Jane, and I have also found a marriage in Durham & Gateshead > marriages transcription for a William Stewart & Jane Simpson, 1815 which > would fit > in with this birth. > > This one on the 1841 is the only James Stewart I can find, and I have no > trace of his parents on the 1841 at all. > > Many thanks for any thoughts > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: > 15/03/2007 11:27 AM > >

In a message dated 15/03/2007 21:57:37 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The only thing I can think is that it is 'I' standing for "Independent Means", although on another page it has 'Ind' which is the usual entry. "whether born in county" is a 'no'. ________________________________________________________________ Just to add that the official abbreviations to be used in the 1841 census is- Ind. Independent - people living on their own means Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 15/03/2007 21:38:21 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: It looks like the twirly letter I and I have no idea what it could mean. Also, does anyone think that the answer to "whether born in county" is a no? ____________________________________________________________________ The only thing I can think is that it is 'I' standing for "Independent Means", although on another page it has 'Ind' which is the usual entry. "whether born in county" is a 'no'. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi list, please can someone have a look at the 1841 in Middle Row, Whickham Dunstan,at the occupation of James Stewart aged 25? It looks like the twirly letter I and I have no idea what it could mean. Also, does anyone think that the answer to "whether born in county" is a no? as on subsequent censuses, James says he was born Durham,Gateshead, and there is a James Stewart on the IGI born 1817,bapt 1818 in Gateshead, parents William & Jane, and I have also found a marriage in Durham & Gateshead marriages transcription for a William Stewart & Jane Simpson, 1815 which would fit in with this birth. This one on the 1841 is the only James Stewart I can find, and I have no trace of his parents on the 1841 at all. Many thanks Ann

Hi list, please can someone have a look at the 1841 in Middle Row, Whickham Dunstan,at the occupation of James Stewart aged 25? It looks like the twirly letter I and I have no idea what it could mean. Also, does anyone think that the answer to "whether born in county" is a no? as on subsequent censuses, James says he was born Durham,Gateshead, and there is a James Stewart on the IGI born 1817,bapt 1818 in Gateshead, parents William & Jane, and I have also found a marriage in Durham & Gateshead marriages transcription for a William Stewart & Jane Simpson, 1815 which would fit in with this birth. This one on the 1841 is the only James Stewart I can find, and I have no trace of his parents on the 1841 at all. Many thanks for any thoughts

This enumerator's I's and J's look very similar. Looking at other pages there is an Isabella followed by a John and the first letters look identical There are also other's with the same I or J as occupation. Some entries have "J" that I take to mean Journeyman and there are in the same family some that are "Ap" Doesn't journeyman what though. What was your James Stewart's occupation in subsequent census? Janis

Hello I am new to this list and researching my husband's family. The names I have are:- Luke - Thornley area Harding - Coxhoe Halsall - (I think they orginated from Northumberland, but ended up in Thornley area) Storey - Castle Eden I do not know the area very well, but if anyone is researching any of the above I would love to hear from you. Viv

I am trying to trace Francis OLIVER, who according to the 1851 census was 53 years old and born in GAINFORD, Durham. He was living in Shrewsbury, Shropshire by then and is listed as farm bailiff and had married a Shropshire girl. I can trace him downwards from there and his family. I cannot find any sign of his birth. I did find through IGI a William OLLIVER marrying Mary HODGSHON on 21 Dec 1794 in GAINFORD. Perhaps they could be his parents. Is there anybody working on the OLIVER or HODGSHON families in that area? Any information would be gratefully received. Pauline Ontario, Canada

Hi list, I have an ancestor who is on the 1851 in Poplar,London, who says he came from (looks like) Cornwell,Gateshead,Durham. The Gateshead and Durham are clear, but I have been unable to find a place sounding like Cornwell in Durham. I will be grateful for any suggestions. Many thanks Ann

Difficult to know with the information you have, Janet. Possibly you are looking at different Williams, or perhaps his wife died & he married another with the same (rather common) Christian name. Since the 1851 and 1871 censuses are 20 years apart, it is quite reasonable for the children of 1851 to have left home - or died with the relatively high mortality rates of the mid 19th c. You could order the (several) candidate marriage certificates to see what fits, or you could take a chance on the baptism and burial records - and marriage if you are even more lucky - of the local parish church. Of course, they could have married elsewhere, been non-conformist or whatever. A determined look for William (perhaps without Mary A) in 1861 would be worthwhile. Finally, of course, they could be the same William and Mary A, and at least one census could be wrong in some details. You don't say where the Mary A(s) were born? Do they tie up? Ian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Janet Hasler Sent: 08 March 2007 19:42 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Help wanted Hi I wonder if someone could help me.I seem to be a bit confused.On the 1851 census I have a WILLIAM MOODY D.O.B. ABT 1818 in Ebchester married to a MARY A D.O.B. ABT 1820 Children JOHN D.O.B. ABT 1846 SARAH D.O.B. ABT 1850 The 1851 census is very hard to read. NO RECORD OF THEM ON THE 1861 CENSUS On the 1871 census they turn up again but this time the MARY A he was married to was born ABT1840 and he has different children.Am I being really silly and are they are not the same people. Thank you to anyone who can help me. Jan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 07/03/2007 09:24 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 07/03/2007 09:24

Hi I wonder if someone could help me.I seem to be a bit confused.On the 1851 census I have a WILLIAM MOODY D.O.B. ABT 1818 in Ebchester married to a MARY A D.O.B. ABT 1820 Children JOHN D.O.B. ABT 1846 SARAH D.O.B. ABT 1850 The 1851 census is very hard to read. NO RECORD OF THEM ON THE 1861 CENSUS On the 1871 census they turn up again but this time the MARY A he was married to was born ABT1840 and he has different children.Am I being really silly and are they are not the same people. Thank you to anyone who can help me. Jan

Jan, Look at Census 1861 (3734-45-33). 40 yr old unmarried ( a weaver on 51 and 71, but lab here) with 19 yr old Mary Ann house servant. As Ian suggests, first Mary A might have died ( candidate @ June Qtr, Hexham 1852) Michael Dixon

In a message dated 07/03/2007 21:42:13 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I wonder if anyone can help me I have a WILLIAM MOODY D.O.B. ABT 1820 EBCHESTER Jan: A John and Jane Moody had a son William baptised at Ebchester on 2 January 1818. They were of Ebchester Mill and John was a wool spinner. The same couple had another child, William, baptised, also at Ebchester, on 20 March 1819. The parents don't seem to have married at Ebchester. I doubt whether they married in Co Durham at all and my database is not comprehensive enough for me to say much about a possible marriage in Northumberland, except that two possibilities are John Moody and Jane Hogarth who married at Newcastle St John on 9 November 1814 and John Moody and Jane Thompson who married at Elsdon on 17 July 1817. This last reference is from the BTs, the parish marriage register for that period being lost. The timing of the Elsdon entry is what, in practice, one tends to get between the wedding and the baptism of the first child! However, we don't know whether William really was his parents' first child - the may have married much earlier and had other children elsewhere before they had William Geoff Nicholson