Hi Murray Thank you very much. I did know most of what you supplied but I was surprised at extra info you found. There is an poss extra in 1871 CHARLES Albert 3 yrs and where he may have been in 1891 (London) I was also trying to trace Wilfred in 1891 & you have possibly solved a mystery for me. Wilfred married an Iasabel b. Tanfield and I'll put money on that it is the daughter of the house in 1891. My line is through his sister MARY E. and she married a butcher from Chester-le-Street in 1901 I couldn't think how they met but I bet it was through Isabel's family living in Chester-le-Street. For list info 1871 GEORGE H COATES is in Staffordshire 1871 ALFRED H COATES is in Warminster 1891 EDWIN COATES is in Huddersfield 1913 Poss mention North Riding Yorkshire (Coneysthorpe) Again thank you for your excellent help. Tony Surtees tsurt@btinternet.com -----Original Message----- From: Murray Jones [mailto:joneswm@accesscomm.ca] Sent: 23 August 2004 16:46 To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Coates of Sunderland Hi Tony Thought you might like Wilfred in 1871 and 1891 if you don't already have him and family. Maybe found som eother members of family in 1891. Take care Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada *********************************************** Household Record 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Benjamin W. COATES Head M Male 47 Almondbury, York Bookseller & Printer Employing 2 Men 8 Boys Martha M. COATES Wife M Female 40 Worcester, Worcester Edwin W. COATES Son U Male 18 Huddersfield, York Booksellers Assistant >Wilfred COATES Son U Male 15 Warminster, Wiltshire Booksellers Assistant George H. COATES Son Male 12 Warminster, Wiltshire Scholar Alfred H. COATES Son Male 11 Warminster, Wiltshire Scholar Mary E. COATES Daur Female 8 Warminster, Wiltshire Scholar Alice M. COATES Daur Female 7 Warminster, Wiltshire Scholar Elsie K. COATES Daur Female 6 Warminster, Wiltshire Scholar Margaret G. COATES Daur Female 4 Warminster, Wiltshire Henry Miller CATER Visitor M Male 48 London, Middlesex Commercial Traveller Jane Eliza CATER Visitor M Female 43 Mile End, Middlesex Mary Ann LAY Serv U Female 20 Upton Scudamore, Wiltshire General Serv Annie PEARCE Serv U Female 17 Warminster, Wiltshire Nursemaid Dom Serv Source Information: Dwelling 15 Market Place Census PlaceWarminster, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341495 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2056 / 12 Page Number 17 *************************************************** 1871 England Census Civil parish: Warminster Ecclesiastical parish: Warminster Christchurch Town: Warminster County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Market Place (no # given) Source information: RG10/1933 Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Warminster ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 53 Page: 16 Household schedule number: 80 Folio: 53 Page: 16 Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Benjamin Walter Contes* 27 Almondbury, Yorkshire Head Bookseller Printer & Sationer Employing 3 Men 1 Boy Martha Matilda Contes* 29 Worcestershire Wife Edwin Walter Contes* 8 Huddersfield, Yorkshire Son Arthur Contes* 6 Warminster, Wiltshire Son Wilfred Contes* 5 Warminster, Wiltshire Son Charles Albert Contes* 3 Warminster, Wiltshire Son * Mistranscribed - should be Coates Folio: 54 Page: 17 Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Alfred Herbert Coates 1 Warminster, Wiltshire Son George Henry Coates 2 Warminster, Wiltshire Son Ellen Herly 46 Monkton Deverill, Wiltshire Servant Martha Wheeler 17 Winterbourne Stoke, Wiltshire Servant Domsetic Servant ************************************** 1891 Census Civil parish: Warminster Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Warminster County: Wiltshire Street address: 15 Market Place Source information: RG12/1609 Registration district: Warminster Sub registration district: Warminster ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 101 Page: 13 NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-house Coates, Benj. W 57 Almondbury, Yorkshire Head Coates, Martha M 50 Worcester, Worcestershire Wife Coates, Elsie K 16 Warminster, Wiltshire Daughter Coates, Alfred H 21 Warminster, Wiltshire Son Coates, Alice Mabel 17 Warminster, Wiltshire Daughter ******************************************* 1891 Civil parish: Westbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: County: Gloucestershire Street address: 6 Portland Street Source information: RG12/1987 Registration district: Barton Regis Sub registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 18 Page: 29 Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Coates, Geroge H 22 Single Warminster, Wiltshire Tenant Print Seller ******************************************** 1891 Census Civil parish: Chester le Street Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Cuthbert Town: Chester-le-Street County: Durham Street address: Lumley Terrace Source information: RG12/4119 Registration district: Chester Le Street Sub registration district: Chester le Street ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 98 Page: 10 Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Armstrong, Isabel 29 Tanfield, Durham Daughter Armstrong, Margery 72 Ryton, Durham Wife Armstrong, Thomas 69 Wylam, Northumberland Head Coates, Hilfred* 27 Warminster, Wiltshire Visitor Stationer * Probably should be Wilfred *********************************** 1891 Cenaus Civil parish: Preshute Ecclesiastical parish: Marlborough St Mary Town: County: Wiltshire Street address: Salsbury Road Source information: RG12/1598 Registration district: Marlborough Sub registration district: Marlborough ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 140 Page: 1 NameAge in 1891BirthplaceRelationship to head-of-house Coates, Charles Albert 23 Warminster, Wiltshire Boarder Bank Cashier ************************************* 1891 Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County: London Street address: Source information: RG12/391 Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Lambeth Church First ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 87 Page: 6 Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Coates, Arthur 28 Warminster, Wiltshire Lodger Ironmonger's Assisance ************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Surtees" <tsurt@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 4:43 AM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Coates of Sunderland > I am trying to trace the descendants of WILFRED COATES b.1866 __________________________