Hello List There is a possibility that William Elder had indeed been to Australia Max who subscribes to this list sent me a lot of information on one part of the Elder /Toft line who emigrated to Australia It seems a brother of Mary Toft -her Mother was the Elder -visited I am wondering if the brother could have been her uncle? There were brothers if I have linked them correctly named John and William it could have been them in 1852 Either that or they were smugglers off the North East Coast Which ever it is good to try to work out the why's and wherefores Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Rowntree" <davtree@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:35 AM Subject: FW: [genealogy] Fw: [SUNDERLAND] Gold Mine > Pat, > > The only William Elder who possibly fits going to Victoria is the following: > > ELDER JOHN A SEP 1852 KENT B 008 004 > ELDER WILLIAM A SEP 1852 KENT B 008 004 > > These were two adult arrivals from a British port on the vsl "Kent" in Sep > 1852. Unfortunately age is not specified as is the norm. Did he have a > brother or father John? > > David Rowntree > > -----Original Message----- >