Pat, The only William Elder who possibly fits going to Victoria is the following: ELDER JOHN A SEP 1852 KENT B 008 004 ELDER WILLIAM A SEP 1852 KENT B 008 004 These were two adult arrivals from a British port on the vsl "Kent" in Sep 1852. Unfortunately age is not specified as is the norm. Did he have a brother or father John? David Rowntree -----Original Message----- From: Pat & Derek [mailto:derek.phillips2@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 10:20 AM To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [genealogy] Fw: [SUNDERLAND] Gold Mine Tim I meant I am the one with dual nationality I was being facetious in that if I can go to and fro to Oz then so could my ancestors ! It should have read me not be Sorry for the mistake Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim sewell" <postmantim2@optusnet.com.au> To: "Pat & Derek" <derek.phillips2@ntlworld.com>; "ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-List" <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [genealogy] Fw: [SUNDERLAND] Gold Mine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat & Derek" <derek.phillips2@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:09 AM > Subject: [genealogy] Fw: [SUNDERLAND] Gold Mine > > > > Should of thought of that one Stan be being a dual nationality as in > Aussie > > and Brit > > Don't think there would be too may goldmines in Lizard Lane -or maybe > > Cheers Pat > > Hi, Pat. > > Just a few simple comments - > > Australia and "Australian Nationality" did not exist in a legal sense until > the separate British colonies in Australia were formally united into a > Federation in 1901. No-one could have had "dual Aussie and Brit" > nationality in 1881. > > Legal Australian citizenship was only introduced much more recently. To > quote a government document "From the time of European settlement until > 1949, anyone born or naturalised in Australia was a "British subject." The > Nationality and Citizenship Act 1949, which came into being on 26 January > 1949, created Australian citizenship". > > "Real" (or "fair dinkum") Australian passports were an even later > development. Until 1973, all passports issued in Australia included the > words "British Citizen" on the front. > > > HTH > Tim S. > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== Sunderland.com http://www.sunderland.com/ Sunderland Echo http://www.sunderland-echo.co.uk/