In a message dated 13/03/2005 16:41:53 GMT Standard Time, foxit@ev1.net writes: Is there a local government office there in Sunderland that houses the birth record for John Thomas Rimer? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/public/editable/life-episodes/bdm/certificates.as p Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org