My wife and her family lived a 7, Lizard Lane. My mother-in law is the local historian for Whitburn. High Croft was at the top end (Marsden end) of Lizard Lane. She has a good bit of information on the Caroll connection, I'll pick her brains to get an exact location from her and post it here when I can. Gerry Fitzsimons Visit http://www.woodhamgolf.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hurst" <jmhurst@eastleake.net> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [genealogy] [SUNDERLAND] Southwick and Lewis Caroll > According to the sketch map in the book I mentioned before the house was > no > 1 Lizard Lane. > One of the cousins was William Edward Wilcox.(picture shown dated 1860 > circa ) > The father was William Wilcox. > They ae in the 1861 census in Whitburn , no street or house name with 11 > children only the last three born there, the previous one born in what > look > like Devon he was aged 8 . > ref is RG9/3792/4 > Hope that helps. > regards > Maureen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tim sewell" <postmantim2@optusnet.com.au> > To: "John Hurst" <jmhurst@eastleake.net>; "ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-List" > <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:29 AM > Subject: Re: [genealogy] [SUNDERLAND] Southwick and Lewis Caroll > > >> Maureen, >> >> Some aspects of the reported Lewis Carroll connection to Whitburn have me >> mildly puzzled. >> >> In "A literary Guide to North-East England >> > (http://online.northumbria.ac.uk/faculties/art/humanities/cns/m-index.html), >> Alan Myers states : >> >> " Most of his famous poem 'Jabberwocky' which begins: >> >> 'Twas brillig and the slithy toves >> Did gyre and gimble in the wabe.' >> was written on a visit to his Wilcox cousins in Whitburn, >> near Sunderland in 1855. >> >> Mrs Wilcox was the wife of the Collector of Customs in Sunderland; their >> house, High Croft, was later burned down. " >> >> The other day, when I perused the fiche images of the 1855 census of >> Whitburn parish, I could find no reference to any house called High >> Croft, >> nor to any Wilcox family, nor to anyone claiming to be a "Collector of >> Customs". >> >> Now, I would not be greatly surprised if, somehow, I just missed the > Wilcox >> family, High Croft etc in my search. So if anyone has access to the 1855 >> census index for the region, I would be grateful if they could tell me if >> the "Wilcox cousins" are, in fact, listed as living in High Croft, > Whitburn. >> >> As a secondary question - does anyone know just where in Whitburn >> this High Croft is thought to have been, and when it was burnt down? >> >> Tim S. >> >> (P.S. - Just imagine what my spellchecker does with Jabberwocky !) >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hurst" <jmhurst@eastleake.net> >> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:54 PM >> Subject: [genealogy] [SUNDERLAND] Southwick and Lewis Caroll >> >> >> > anyone with an interest in Southwick or even lewis Caroll (his sister > mary >> > lived there)will be interested in this website for Southwick History > and >> > Preservation Society. >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engshps/index.html >> > >> > Lewis Caroll visited his Wilcox cousins at whitburn. >> > >> > 'A Town Like Alice's' by Michael Bute is a very intersting book which >> tells >> > of all the north east connections of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson. >> > >> > regards >> > Maureen Hurst >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== >> > Sunderland L.D.S centre, >> > http://www.lds.org.uk/genealogy/fhc/sunderland.htm >> > >> > > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Owner send mail to, > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-admin@lists5.rootsweb.com > > >