----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Smith" <[email protected]> To: "-DUR-SUNDERLAND" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] John Robson Mystery > Well, I guess the obvious questions are: > - do you have the church marriage registration for John Robson and Eleanor > Urwin and if so which church in Sunderland > - have you purchased all the civil certs for all John Robson born in > Sunderland in 1840 > - have you checked all parish records in Sunderland, Byker, Corbridge, > Hetton (in case he was born elsewhere) for all John Robsons born circa > 1840? > It is possible that for some reason he may have been Christened in a > different church than his siblings. And, his siblings were born in various > places so there's no actual guarantee he was born in Sunderland. > - I see on the 1841 that it states "Y" of being of the parish of > Hetton-le-hole, so it's possible he was born there. After all, his sister > was born there, has no baptism and on the 1851 was stated her birth was > Sunderland. Possibly same thing happened to John. It's worth a try. > - Another possibility... if Eleanor was alone on the 1841, then John (was > he > a mariner?) would have been away. Could the father of John be a different > person and thus he is illegitimate and therefore less of a chance of > having > a civil reg? > > If this was my family I'd check civil reg's in Hetton-Le-Hole: > Births Jun 1838 (>99%) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ROBSON John Houghton le Spring 24 140 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Births Dec 1838 (>99%) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ROBSON John Charlton Houghton le Spring 24 130 > > > Also, if he was illegitimate, they might have tried to "fix" his birth age > so it fit better when John Robson was around. Maybe he was actually 3 (as > his age at marriage would indicated) in 1841, because the 1841 census > "rounded up." > > All just wild thoughts, you never know, though. > Susan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Robson" <[email protected]> > To: "-DUR-SUNDERLAND" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:16 PM > Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] John Robson Mystery > > >> Hello All >> Can anybody solve the following, this is a Reposting. >> >> John Robson born 1840 ish his parents appear to be John Robson born 1805 >> Corbridge and Eleanor Urwin born 1809 Byker, John was the 6th Child born >> to the above his Siblings as follows: >> Robert born 1827 Cramlington >> Jane born 1829 Walker >> Mary Ann born 1831 Norton >> Elizabeth born 1833 Norton >> Douglas born 1835 Newcastle >> John born 1840? >> I have all the Baptisms of the above except John >> >> 1841 Census >> Pemberton St, Hetton-le-Hole >> Eleanor age 30 >> Robert age 13 >> Mary Ann age 9 >> Elizabeth age 8 >> Douglas age 5 >> John age 1 >> >> Oct 1841 Margaret was born in Hetton I have birth Reg, no Baptism. >> Sept 1843 Armstrong Urwin born Hetton >> July 1846 Richard Born died in 1846 at Hetton, both Armstrong and >> Richard >> were baptised together at St Nicholas Hetton 8th July 1846, I also have >> there Birth Regs, still no sign of John and Margaret's Baptisms >> >> 1851 Census >> Neasham Sq, Sunderland >> John Robson age 46 Head born Corbridge >> Eleanor age 41 born Byker >> John aged 11 Born Sunderland >> Magaret age 10 born Sunderland ( this is wrong she was born Hetton I have >> birth Reg) >> Armstrong age 8 born Hetton >> Thomas age 3 Months born Sunderland, I have his Birth Reg and Baptism >> >> 1861 Census >> 20 Sussex St, Sunderland >> John Robson age 23 Seaman Born Bishopwearmouth >> Eleanor wife age 27 Born Sunderland >> Douglas age 4 Months born Sunderland >> >> John Robson age 22 Married Eleanor Ann Hall age 26 on 15th Jan 1860 in >> Sunderland, I think he lied about his age to marry his wife was actually >> 29 when they married she knocked a few years off her age. >> John died in May 1865 as a result of an Accident and was buried with >> Naval >> Honours. >> >> John is my direct Line, I have had all the John Robson Birth Regs checked >> from 1837 to 1841 he is not Registered and no luck with his baptism of >> him >> and his sister Margaret, it is a complete mystery why there is no record >> of him. >> if anyone can help or come across his birth or Baptism please let me know >> it has been 9 years of Searching. >> >> Many Thanks >> Allan Robson >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: >> 04/01/2008 12:05 PM >> >