Complicated Stan so i will try and explain but the surname is Phillips In 1901 James Phillips born 1885 was in a reform school and his parents James born between 1846 -1852 ( another puzzle )and Ann were given on the reform school records as being at 7 Malings Rig James was admitted on the 12th March 1901 according to the records James had siblings John circa 1882 and Robert Henry circa 1890 plus Julia circa 1883 I tried to find the family in 1901 ,found Julia elsewhere and then the reference below 1901 census Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4720; Folio: 25; Page: 41 which is 7 Malings Rig James Philips Head 70 born about 1831 Male Sunderland , Dan Philips Son 40 born about 1861 Male Sunderland ,John Philips Grandson 19 born about 1882 Male Sunderland Robert H Philips Grandson 9 born about 1892 Male Sunderland Now the John and Robert certainly fit with James siblings but their father was James (1846 to 1852) ( could the Dan on the image could be James ) But the father of James was John and he died in 1879 -have the cert on that one Then a cousin had looked at electoral rolls a while ago and found James Phillips at 7 Malings Rig on the 1913/14 electoral roll -at the time she thought it was James born 1885 but was wondering if there was any way to find out which James was which ! Cheers Pat Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: Stan Mapstone To: Pat & Derek Cc: Sunderland List Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Electoral Rolls Electoral Rolls only show those people that can vote, which is usually the male head of the house hold, at that time. Electoral Rolls were not indexed by name, you need to know the address before you can find someone. This arrangement is a major drawback for the genealogist. Who are you looking for in Maling's Rigg? On 23 January 2010 10:06, Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Could anyone please tell me how much information is found in the electoral rolls Do they show age ,employment etc or is it simply names only Also are the indexed by address or by name -could I ask as well is there any way of checking an address on the 1911 census rather than a name I have tried looking for Malings Rig to no avail -any ideas please Cheers Pat Phillips ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Stan Mapstone