Many thanks to Stan, Heather and Tony for their very prompt and helpful replies. Rob

The establishment of a convalescent home was proposed at the first meeting of the Disaster Fund Committee on June 21st 1883, by James Laing, and the motion that a convalescent home mainly for children, be endowed and established was unanimously carried. Stan mapstone 2010/1/12 Heather <heatherachere@yahoo.co.uk> > Hi Rob > > Just a snippet about the Victoria Hall Disaster Fund that I picked up a > little while ago whilst searching the National Archives site... > > Sunderland Royal Infirmary persuaded the Victoria Hall Disaster Fund to > fund the establishment of Heatherdene convalescent home in Harrogate. It was > at first principally for children (and some women) but later extended for > adult convalescents. It was used as a military hospital 1914-1919 > > Just found the page for you > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1308&hospi > > Best regards > Heather Carbis > >

The first meeting of the Committee was held on Thursday June 21st 1883, in the Police Court East Cross Street. The chair was occupied by the Mayor, John Wright Wayman, the following were present; Ald Storey M.P., W. Wilson (Ex-mayor), James Laing, Rev. W.A. Walton, Rev. R. Waters, Rev. Canon Burnett, Rev. J.H. Hancock, Rev. Canon Scott-Moncrieff, Rev Father Turnerell Rev. H. Martin, Rev. Doctor Lyth. Councillors; R. Cameron, R. Shadforth, Lawson, M. Douglass, Hanson, Errington, Fairlees, Dr. Smith, T. Smith, G. Douglass, R. Richards, W.H. Dixon, J. Coates, Dr. Harris, Dr. J.W. Beattie, Dr. Lambert, Dr. W.B. Ferguson, Dr. Morgan, Dr. Bolton, Dr. Waterston, Capt. Pinkey, Messrs. Mark Harmon, J.R. Pattison, J.C. Moor, T.W. Backhouse, Horner, jun., T. Rutherford, W. Birch, R. Singleton, W. Tone, D.J. Pinkney. Councillors Dix and Horner, and Mr. J. W. Thompson, hon. secretaries, were also present. >From the Sunderland Weekly Echo, Friday 22nd. June !883. R. Shadforth was later the chairman of the committee. Stan Mapstone 2010/1/12 ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> > Can anyone tell me more about the Victoria Hall disaster fund and the > committee overseeing this? > > Also, the Victoria Hall was enlarged I believe sometime after 1900, could > anyone tell me when this was? > > When was the fund finally closed? > > Many thanks > > Rob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1891 the balance of the Victoria Hall Disaster Fund, amounting to £4,000, was, with other funds obtained by subscription, handed to the trustees of the infirmary, to purchase a house at Harrogate, which was altered and enlarged to form a convalescent home in connection with the infirmary. Stan 2010/1/12 ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> > Can anyone tell me more about the Victoria Hall disaster fund and the > committee overseeing this? > > Also, the Victoria Hall was enlarged I believe sometime after 1900, could > anyone tell me when this was? > > When was the fund finally closed? > > Many thanks > > Rob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Rob Just a snippet about the Victoria Hall Disaster Fund that I picked up a little while ago whilst searching the National Archives site... Sunderland Royal Infirmary persuaded the Victoria Hall Disaster Fund to fund the establishment of Heatherdene convalescent home in Harrogate. It was at first principally for children (and some women) but later extended for adult convalescents. It was used as a military hospital 1914-1919 Just found the page for you http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=1308&hospi Best regards Heather Carbis 2010/1/12 ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> > Can anyone tell me more about the Victoria Hall > disaster fund and the > > committee overseeing this? > > > > Also, the Victoria Hall was enlarged I believe > sometime after 1900, could > > anyone tell me when this was? > > > > When was the fund finally closed? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Rob Online Parish Clerk for Morvah Cornwall http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~morvah and Padstow (web site pending) Visit my Family Tree's at GOODWIN and GORDON http://heatherac.tribalpages.com CARBIS SPARROW ATTWOOLL http://carbissparrow.tribalpages.com JOLLIFFE MOULAND http://jolliffemouland.tribalpages.com

The Victoria Hall was bought by the Corporation in 1903, which spent £30,000 on modernisation, and it was reopened on 7th November 1906. 2010/1/12 ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> > Can anyone tell me more about the Victoria Hall disaster fund and the > committee overseeing this? > > Also, the Victoria Hall was enlarged I believe sometime after 1900, could > anyone tell me when this was? > > When was the fund finally closed? > > Many thanks > > Rob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me more about the Victoria Hall disaster fund and the committee overseeing this? Also, the Victoria Hall was enlarged I believe sometime after 1900, could anyone tell me when this was? When was the fund finally closed? Many thanks Rob

As Stan pointed out I joined the wrong List. I should have listened to my Geography teacher. Jim Cleary, Napier, NZ

Hi Mark There are a number of old maps and other documents at http://www.dur.ac.uk/picturesinprint/ Stan Mapstone

Hi Stan, Many thanks for your previous replies. I now think that West House, Diamond Hall must have been one of the two houses that you mentioned. As you say by 1895 either Diamond Hall was demolished and two houses built or it had been converted into two houses - I think probably the latter. Thanks also for the link. It is a very interesting article and mentions a lot of maps I have never heard about before. Just wished I lived nearer..... Mark Etheridge. Begin forwarded message: > From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> > Date: 3 January 2010 16:21:47 GMT > To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Diamond Hall > > > Sunderland Antiquarian Society have a plan of the Diamond Hall estate in 1858 http://www.sunderland-antiquarians.org/maps-2/ unfortunately not on-line. > > Stan Mapstone > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SUSAN JANE HOPE died on the 3rd Febuary,1921 and I am trying to find if there would have been a Death notice published in a local paper at that time.In the 1911 her home address was 47 Barton Rd, Barton and her husband was a worker on the Manchester Shipping Canal. Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. Jim Cleary, Napier, NZ

Just had a thought Stan that the Workhouse in the Dun Cow area would have been closed by 1871 ? as that's when the death was recorded so it would have been Highfield Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat & Derek" <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> To: "Sunderland List" <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Workhouse & Hospitals > Hi Stan > I have a map (1855 ) showing a plan of Sunderland Union Workhouse and its > beside Dun Cow Street and Collier Row > Could both places have been called the Union Workhouse ? > Cheers Pat >

Hi Stan I have a map (1855 ) showing a plan of Sunderland Union Workhouse and its beside Dun Cow Street and Collier Row Could both places have been called the Union Workhouse ? Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Mapstone" <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Workhouse & Hospitals > > Sunderland Union Workhouse was on Hylton Road, and there was also a > hospital > on the site. It was called the Highfield Hospital, although the building > remained predominantly a Poor Law Institution a small number of beds were > set > aside for the sick and mentally ill. > Sunderland Union Hospital was administered by the Board of Guardians > until > 1929, when after the Board were abolished the Borough separated the > Municipal > Hospital from the Highfield Institution. The Local Health Committee > became > responsible for the Hospital. By 1930, the workhouse site had become > known as > the Highfield Institute and Municipal Hospital. Under the National Health > Service, the hospital became Sunderland General Hospital. now the > Sunderland Royal Hospital. > > > Stan Mapstone > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> > To: Sunderland List <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:10 > Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Workhouse & Hospitals > > > Hi everyone > I have a John Phillips died 1871 but the cert just says Workhouse > The family lived in Collier Row and I know Sunderland Union Workhouse was > very > close -was it also a hospital or infirmary ? > Cheers Pat & Derek > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone I have a John Phillips died 1871 but the cert just says Workhouse The family lived in Collier Row and I know Sunderland Union Workhouse was very close -was it also a hospital or infirmary ? Cheers Pat & Derek

Her death was registered in Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, which is on the other side of England from Sunderland. You may have more luck on a list dealing with that area. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: The Clearys <marjimnz@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-dUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 8:14 Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] susan jane hope SUSAN JANE HOPE died on the 3rd Febuary,1921 and I am trying to find if there would have been a Death notice published in a local paper at that time.In the 1911 her home address was 47 Barton Rd, Barton and her husband was a worker on the Manchester Shipping Canal. Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. Jim Cleary, Napier, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Her death was registered in Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, which is on the other side of England from Sunderland. You may have more luck on a list dealing with that area. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: The Clearys <marjimnz@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-dUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 8:14 Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] susan jane hope SUSAN JANE HOPE died on the 3rd Febuary,1921 and I am trying to find if there would have been a Death notice published in a local paper at that time.In the 1911 her home address was 47 Barton Rd, Barton and her husband was a worker on the Manchester Shipping Canal. Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated. Jim Cleary, Napier, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

I can offer only a crumb of info on the name the Embleton. My g-g-aunt, Thomasina Dodd (b. 1806, Sunderland area) married William Embleton in 1840. William is believed to have had two brothers: John (1800-1866) and Jacob (d. 1866). The marriage is reported in www.sunderland.gov.uk/pages/registrars. I can offer no citation on the rest. That's 100% of what I think I know. So far. I hope it helps. Bruce Dodd Ottawa

The Sunderland Poor Law Union formally came into existence on 13thDecember 1836. Initially, the new Sunderland Union made use of theexisting Bishopwearmouth Harley Street workhouse (Where the High StreetBaths were later built). The new workhouse on Hylton Road was built1853-5. You can read about Sunderland Workhouses at http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> To: Sunderland List <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:18 Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Fw: Workhouse & Hospitals Just had a thought Stan that the Workhouse in the Dun Cow area would have been closed by 1871 ? as that's when the death was recorded so it would have been Highfield Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat & Derek" <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> To: "Sunderland List" <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Workhouse & Hospitals > Hi Stan > I have a map (1855 ) showing a plan of Sunderland Union Workhouse and its > beside Dun Cow Street and Collier Row > Could both places have been called the Union Workhouse ? > Cheers Pat > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sunderland Union Workhouse was on Hylton Road, and there was also a hospital on the site. It was called the Highfield Hospital, although the building remained predominantly a Poor Law Institution a small number of beds were set aside for the sick and mentally ill. Sunderland Union Hospital was administered by the Board of Guardians until 1929, when after the Board were abolished the Borough separated the Municipal Hospital from the Highfield Institution. The Local Health Committee became responsible for the Hospital. By 1930, the workhouse site had become known as the Highfield Institute and Municipal Hospital. Under the National Health Service, the hospital became Sunderland General Hospital. now the Sunderland Royal Hospital. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> To: Sunderland List <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:10 Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Workhouse & Hospitals Hi everyone I have a John Phillips died 1871 but the cert just says Workhouse The family lived in Collier Row and I know Sunderland Union Workhouse was very close -was it also a hospital or infirmary ? Cheers Pat & Derek ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Chris 1911 Census 17 Mainsforth Terrace West Hendon Sunderland RG14PN30185 RG78PN1741 RD555 SD2 ED4 SN283 consisting of 2 rooms occupied by 2 people George Davison SCOTT, head, aged 34, widower, Blacksmiths Striker, Employed in shipbuilding, worker, born Sunderland Durham. George Conlan SCOTT, son, aged 11, at school, born Sunderland Durham Another interesting fact for you, on this census if you were married you had to fill in how long you had been married, how many children were born alive to this marriage, how many were still living and how many had died. As George was a widower he did not have to fill in this part, but he did, and gave the following information - Completed years in present marriage, 12. Total children born alive, 2. Children still living, 1. Children who have died, 1. Best regards Heather Carbis Online Parish Clerk for Morvah Cornwall http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~morvah and Padstow (web site pending) Visit my Family Tree's at GOODWIN and GORDON http://heatherac.tribalpages.com CARBIS SPARROW ATTWOOLL http://carbissparrow.tribalpages.com JOLLIFFE MOULAND http://jolliffemouland.tribalpages.com --- On Sun, 3/1/10, Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> wrote: From: Pat & Derek <patphillips@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Fw: George Davison Scott b.1874 Hi Chris ,this could be George in 1901 think its Finchale as writing is faint on the census 1901 6 Finchale Terrace Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4714; Folio: 19; Page: 29. George D Scott born about  1874 Sunderland, Durham, England Head Sunderland, Durham  occupation striker blacksmith Catherine Scott born about  1875 Sunderland, Durham, England Wife Sunderland, Durham George Scott  born about  1900 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Sunderland, Durham 8 Finchale Terrace Robt Shotton Scott  born about  1879 Sunderland, Durham, England Boarder Sunderland, Durham Would suggest maybe you look at the 1911 census to see if there were more children Can send the image off list if you would like it Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <chris.best@clara.co.uk> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] George Davison Scott b.1874 > Hi, > > I'm new to this List  and am looking for any information about or > connections to my grandfather's brother George Davison Scott born 1874 in > Bishopwearmouth. > > His parents were Thomas Scott (born Channerwick, Shetland Islands) and > Elizabeth Davison who married on April 15, 1871 in Sunderland. Elizabeth > was the daughter of George Davison and Elizabeth Coates (who lived at that > time at 47 Tweed St. which I think was in Hendon) > > Thomas, a sailor, died on September 10, 1878 leaving Elizabeth a widow > with two young boys (my grandfather Thomas Davison Scott aged 6 and > George, his brother aged 4). In the 1881 census Elizabeth has gone back to > live with her parents: > > Cliff Terrace, Bishopwearmouth, Durham > > Head/H. George Davidson  Mariner  59y >    Elizabeth Davidson wife       57y >    Elizabeth Scott    widow      28y >    Thomas Scott       son         8y >    George Scott       son         7y > > I think George may have married Catherine Conlin in 1898 but have yet to > get their marriage certificate to prove that. I have no family records if > George had any descendants. > > Any help gratefully received! > > Thanks, > > Chris Best in Birmingham