Hello Stan Thanks for your helpful reply. Do you know any more about the British and Foreign Society School, and when it was locted at Nicholson Street? Thanks Rob

In the 1858 Directory there were two schools at 99 Hendon Road a Wesleyan School, and a British and Foreign School, but these were not on the site of the Corporation Public Baths and Wash Houses which were on the other side of Smyrna Place, and were still there in 1914. The school you are referring to was the British and Foreign Society School, which after a number of years in sites on Garden Street and Nicholson Street, or as it was sometimes called Coxon's Fields, moved to a permanent site on the corner of Norfolk Street and Borough Road in 1856 (the 1858 directory is out of date) next to the Quaker Meeting House. British Schools were founded in 1808 by Joseph Lancaster, a Quaker in 1808. Stan Mapstone On 20 March 2010 14:25, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Rob, > When in the 1800s? In the 1851 Directory there are 86 schools listed > in Sunderland, but no Coxon's. > Stan Mapstone > > On 20 March 2010 13:50, ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Can anyone tell me about a Coxon's School in Sunderland, said to have been >> on the former site of Hendon Road Baths and Washhouses in the early part of >> the 1800s? >> >> Many thanks >> >> Rob >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

This was found by another Clazey researcher and he isn't at all clear what these entries mean so I thought I would ask... Cornillis Claise (Amsterdam) 740 Derickson Claise or Cleyse (Amsterdam) 69, 772 Peterson Claise, (Emden), 399 Simons Claise, (Amsterdam), 321, 508, 638. I am assuming the numbers are pages... thank you. sharon

Hi Rob, When in the 1800s? In the 1851 Directory there are 86 schools listed in Sunderland, but no Coxon's. Stan Mapstone On 20 March 2010 13:50, ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell me about a Coxon's School in Sunderland, said to have been > on the former site of Hendon Road Baths and Washhouses in the early part of > the 1800s? > > Many thanks > > Rob > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me about a Coxon's School in Sunderland, said to have been on the former site of Hendon Road Baths and Washhouses in the early part of the 1800s? Many thanks Rob

Many thanks, Stan.............that's extremely helpful. Chris > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:03:13 +0000 > From: stanmapstone@googlemail.com > To: eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Hudson's Buildings, Hendon > > Hi Chris, > Go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and click > on Search, then Coordinates on the left, in > New Coordinate Search: enter 440485, 556654 which will centre the map > on Hudson's Buildings, which were between Hendon Road and D'arcy > Street. They are not there now but are on the 1938-1950 map. > Stan Mapstone > > On 14 March 2010 21:11, Chris Best <chris.best@clara.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Hi all,> > > After my 'Scott' ancestors emigrated from Shetland I find them in the 1861 census living at Hudson's Buildings in Hendon where there seems to be a number of Shetland mariners. Does anyone know if there are any photos or drawings of these buildings in existence? I'm presuming they were tenements and were knocked down at some later date as I can't find them on the A to Z? > >> Grateful thanks for any info. > > Chris Best > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Hi Chris, Go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and click on Search, then Coordinates on the left, in New Coordinate Search: enter 440485, 556654 which will centre the map on Hudson's Buildings, which were between Hendon Road and D'arcy Street. They are not there now but are on the 1938-1950 map. Stan Mapstone On 14 March 2010 21:11, Chris Best <chris.best@clara.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi all,> > After my 'Scott' ancestors emigrated from Shetland I find them in the 1961 census living at Hudson's Buildings in Hendon where there seems to be a number of Shetland mariners. Does anyone know if there are any photos or drawings of these buildings in existence? I'm presuming they were tenements and were knocked down at some later date as I can't find them on the A to Z? >> Grateful thanks for any info. > Chris Best > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, After my 'Scott' ancestors emigrated from Shetland I find them in the 1961 census living at Hudson's Buildings in Hendon where there seems to be a number of Shetland mariners. Does anyone know if there are any photos or drawings of these buildings in existence? I'm presuming they were tenements and were knocked down at some later date as I can't find them on the A to Z? Grateful thanks for any info. Chris Best _________________________________________________________________ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

Sunderland is now covered by Google Street View so you can do a virtual tour of the city. Although the old East End has been redeveloped, there are plenty of 19th century areas still there, and some old buildings. Stan Mapstone

The parish boundary between Bishopwearmouth and Sunderland Parishes ran down the centre of Sans Street. The Mission Hall was on the west side of Sans Street and was therefore in Bishopwearmouth Parish. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> To: eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 4:50 Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Re Sans Street Methodist Mission Hi, Listers I recently had some advice re Sans Street Methodist Mission which turned out (to my surprise, though I can't say why) to be in Bishopwearmouth. That led me to rummage for a Gavel(?), one of those things used to lay ceremonial cornerstones - don't know their name. It's ebony, with ornate silver mountings, totally useless as a practical tool. On its face is an ornamental silver plaque inscribed thus: *Presented to Ald Wm Bruce J.P. on the occasion of the Laying of the FOUNDATION STONES of the NEW SANS STREET MISSION HALLS* *Aug 20^th 1902 _____* ** *W. & T.R. Milburn **Architects* I'm submitting this in case it may be of interest to any Lister or researcher. I haven't photographed it, but I could if anyone is interested. Bruce Dodd Ottawa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

Hi, Listers I recently had some advice re Sans Street Methodist Mission which turned out (to my surprise, though I can't say why) to be in Bishopwearmouth. That led me to rummage for a Gavel(?), one of those things used to lay ceremonial cornerstones - don't know their name. It's ebony, with ornate silver mountings, totally useless as a practical tool. On its face is an ornamental silver plaque inscribed thus: *Presented to Ald Wm Bruce J.P. on the occasion of the Laying of the FOUNDATION STONES of the NEW SANS STREET MISSION HALLS* *Aug 20^th 1902 _____* ** *W. & T.R. Milburn **Architects* I'm submitting this in case it may be of interest to any Lister or researcher. I haven't photographed it, but I could if anyone is interested. Bruce Dodd Ottawa

Thanks Marie that's interesting hopefully your memorial will be up and running soon Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: MARIE KERR To: Pat & Derek (Live ) Cc: eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Hi Pat I had to pay£152.00 last year for the entry in Book of Remembrance.As I remember you pay for lineage and decoration - my mam's has a tulip because my dad was Dutch. Last time I looked it wasn't yet on-line to view. Marie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Pat & Derek (Live ) <patphillips@live.com.au> To: Sunderland List <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 March, 2010 8:19:01 Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Hi Marie Can I just ask if when searching for the book of remembrance you need the name or date My mother in law was cremated so I would like to have a look and see if anything is on the site I initially thought there was only the name in the book of remembrance if a family member had put it there ? Cheers Pat Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARIE KERR" <mariekerr315@btinternet.com> To: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:25 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Re: Douglas Brown's query - As Stan has already explained the Book of Remembrance contains entries of anyone whose cremation took place at Sunderland Crematorium regardless of where the death took place & was registered.Like Stan, my mother too was cremated last year in Sunderland although she died while staying with me in Scotland. I believe I can offer help with the seeming puzzle of Douglas' ancestor's place of death.Francis probably died in Ryhope at either Ryhope General Hospital or Cherry Knowle Hospital - the Mental Hospital -where many Sunderland residents were patients despite both hospitals lying within the East Durham registration district. My own maternal Grandfather's death in Ryhope General is registered as in East Durham although his home was in Sunderland. Hope this helps, Marie Kerr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marie Can I just ask if when searching for the book of remembrance you need the name or date My mother in law was cremated so I would like to have a look and see if anything is on the site I initially thought there was only the name in the book of remembrance if a family member had put it there ? Cheers Pat Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARIE KERR" <mariekerr315@btinternet.com> To: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:25 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Re: Douglas Brown's query - As Stan has already explained the Book of Remembrance contains entries of anyone whose cremation took place at Sunderland Crematorium regardless of where the death took place & was registered.Like Stan, my mother too was cremated last year in Sunderland although she died while staying with me in Scotland. I believe I can offer help with the seeming puzzle of Douglas' ancestor's place of death.Francis probably died in Ryhope at either Ryhope General Hospital or Cherry Knowle Hospital - the Mental Hospital -where many Sunderland residents were patients despite both hospitals lying within the East Durham registration district. My own maternal Grandfather's death in Ryhope General is registered as in East Durham although his home was in Sunderland. Hope this helps, Marie Kerr

Hi Pat I had to pay£152.00 last year for the entry in Book of Remembrance.As I remember you pay for lineage and decoration - my mam's has a tulip because my dad was Dutch. Last time I looked it wasn't yet on-line to view. Marie ________________________________ From: Pat & Derek (Live ) <patphillips@live.com.au> To: Sunderland List <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 4 March, 2010 8:19:01 Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Hi Marie Can I just ask if when searching for the book of remembrance you need the name or date My mother in law was cremated so I would like to have a look and see if anything is on the site I initially thought there was only the name in the book of remembrance if a family member had put it there ? Cheers Pat Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARIE KERR" <mariekerr315@btinternet.com> To: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:25 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Re: Douglas Brown's query - As Stan has already explained the Book of Remembrance contains entries of anyone whose cremation took place at Sunderland Crematorium regardless of where the death took place & was registered.Like Stan, my mother too was cremated last year in Sunderland although she died while staying with me in Scotland. I believe I can offer help with the seeming puzzle of Douglas' ancestor's place of death.Francis probably died in Ryhope at either Ryhope General Hospital or Cherry Knowle Hospital - the Mental Hospital -where many Sunderland residents were patients despite both hospitals lying within the East Durham registration district. My own maternal Grandfather's death in Ryhope General is registered as in East Durham although his home was in Sunderland. Hope this helps, Marie Kerr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Marie & Stan. I will send for the certificate for the Durham Eastern entry and report back with the result. Douglas -----Original Message----- From: eng-dur-sunderland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-dur-sunderland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MARIE KERR Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2010 9:55 PM To: eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Book of Remembrance entries Re: Douglas Brown's query - As Stan has already explained the Book of Remembrance contains entries of anyone whose cremation took place at Sunderland Crematorium regardless of where the death took place & was registered.Like Stan, my mother too was cremated last year in Sunderland although she died while staying with me in Scotland. I believe I can offer help with the seeming puzzle of Douglas' ancestor's place of death.Francis probably died in Ryhope at either Ryhope General Hospital or Cherry Knowle Hospital - the Mental Hospital -where many Sunderland residents were patients despite both hospitals lying within the East Durham registration district. My own maternal Grandfather's death in Ryhope General is registered as in East Durham although his home was in Sunderland. Hope this helps, Marie Kerr ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone please tell me whether or not there would be an entry in the Book of Remembrance (attached to the Death Index on the Sunderland Council website) for a death that occurred somewhere other than in the Sunderland Registration District. The reason I ask is the following: I found an entry in the book for a Francis Brown who died on the 28th of September 1963. It included his birth date, the 15th of December 1886. I have a Francis Brown in my tree who was born on the same date in Cowpen Quay, Northumberland but spent the majority of his life in Southwick (I don't have any details of his death). When I checked the BMD's for this entry the only one I could find that fitted was in the Durham Eastern Reg District (December Qtr 1963, age at death 87). I've checked the BMD's to see if there was another Francis Brown born in 1886 but there was only one entry in Northumberland ( March Qtr 1887 Tynemouth Reg District - my Francis) and none in County Durham at all. Any help would be appreciated. Douglas Brown, Queanbeyan, Australia

Re: Douglas Brown's query - As Stan has already explained the Book of Remembrance contains entries of anyone whose cremation took place at Sunderland Crematorium regardless of where the death took place & was registered.Like Stan, my mother too was cremated last year in Sunderland although she died while staying with me in Scotland. I believe I can offer help with the seeming puzzle of Douglas' ancestor's place of death.Francis probably died in Ryhope at either Ryhope General Hospital or Cherry Knowle Hospital - the Mental Hospital -where many Sunderland residents were patients despite both hospitals lying within the East Durham registration district. My own maternal Grandfather's death in Ryhope General is registered as in East Durham although his home was in Sunderland. Hope this helps, Marie Kerr

As I understand it the Book of Remembrance is for cremations at Sunderland Crematorium only. A death is registered in the district in which it took place, which could be a hospital or nursing home outside the Sunderland Registration District. My mother's death is registered in Newcastle as she died in hospital there, but she was cremated in Sunderland. Stan On 3 March 2010 05:02, Douglas Brown <dsbgen@bigpond.com> wrote: > Could someone please tell me whether or not there would be an entry in the > Book of Remembrance (attached to the Death Index on the Sunderland Council > website) for a death that occurred somewhere other than in the Sunderland > Registration District. > > The reason I ask is the following: > > > > I found an entry in the book for a Francis Brown who died on the 28th of > September 1963. It included his birth date, the 15th of December 1886. I > have a Francis Brown in my tree who was born on the same date in Cowpen > Quay, Northumberland but spent the majority of his life in Southwick (I > don't have any details of his death). When I checked the BMD's for this > entry the only one I could find that fitted was in the Durham Eastern Reg > District (December Qtr 1963, age at death 87). I've checked the BMD's to see > if there was another Francis Brown born in 1886 but there was only one entry > in Northumberland ( March Qtr 1887 Tynemouth Reg District - my Francis) and > none in County Durham at all. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Douglas Brown, > > Queanbeyan, Australia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to Stan & David for their help with this question. Douglas

I have two certificates for deaths that occurred at hospitals in Sunderland and I'd like to know whether the two hospitals shown are the same. One is the Sunderland General Hospital in 1978 and the other is the Sunderland Hospital in 2000. Also could I ask for the location(s). Douglas, Queanbeyan, Australia