Hi Bruce, This was remarked on when the transcripts were first available. I posted this on the [DUR-NBL] list on 21 Apr 2008 Sunderland 1769-1842 has 1,412 pages, with no index, and there are a batch of transcripts for Wallsend parish among them. The Wallsend images run from number 119 to number 695 in Sunderland 1769-1842. They start with Baptisms 1813 and end with Burials 1823. I have not looked at the intervening pages so they may not be continuous. Sunderland 1830-1837 has 663 Images Sunderland 1837-1842 has 169 Images Bishopwearmouth is not listed On 11 June 2010 05:06, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi, Listers: > > I've been wading through on-line images of Bishop's Transcripts for the > Parish of Sunderland, and very interesting they are.  The period > 1769-1842 is covered by 1412 images.  However, I discover that at least > a third of these pertain not to Sunderland but to Wallsend in > Northumberland. > > Is there some historical reason for this or is it just a plain > mis-filing screw-up? > > In any case, where might I find the missing images for Sunderland?  Do > they in fact exist? > > Can anyone help, please? > > Bruce Dodd, > Ottawa, ON > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Listers: I've been wading through on-line images of Bishop's Transcripts for the Parish of Sunderland, and very interesting they are. The period 1769-1842 is covered by 1412 images. However, I discover that at least a third of these pertain not to Sunderland but to Wallsend in Northumberland. Is there some historical reason for this or is it just a plain mis-filing screw-up? In any case, where might I find the missing images for Sunderland? Do they in fact exist? Can anyone help, please? Bruce Dodd, Ottawa, ON

Sabbath School is the term used by the United Methodist Free Church for their Sunday Schools. The United Methodist Free Church was at the junction of South Durham Street and West Lawrence Street. Stan Mapstone >> >> On 30 May 2010 09:20, ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Good morning list >>> >>> Does anyone know anything of the South Durham Street Sabbath (or Tabbath?) >>> School? >>> Certainly in existence around 1872 >>> >>> Any help appreciated >>> Many thanks >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >

Anyone any ideas as to when the Ryhope District Association (a farming association) came into being? I know from an old Sunderland Echo article that they were in operation during the 1850s. Were there any other farming associations for Ryhope and district, and do any of those still survive today? Many thanks Rob

Good morning list Does anyone know anything of the South Durham Street Sabbath (or Tabbath?) School? Certainly in existence around 1872 Any help appreciated Many thanks Rob

Colin - can I suggest that you contact the Sunderland Antiquarian Society via their website at www.sunderland-antiquarians.org and enquire of them. It is possible that the photo has been digitised by the Archivist and that they may be able to let you have a copy. Alan Vickers.

I am told that a new book has been published by The History Press entitled "Sunderland Volunteer Life Brigade" by Kathleen Gill. On Page 42 there is a photograph of a group of about 44 River Wear Pilots from about 1890, reproduced by kind permission of the Sunderland Antiquarian Society. I feel confident that this photograph will include some of my "Dodds" family. If any List Member has access to this photograph would it be possible to let me have a copy. Kind regards Colin

Hi Carl These are the Tench births at http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1399 TENCH Alice 1898 TENCH Margaret 1894 TENCH Mary 1897 TENCH Sarah 1895 TENCH Ethel 1901 TENCH George 1906 TENCH Robert 1905 TENCH James 1910 TENCH Lavinia 1913 Stan Mapstone On 17 May 2010 07:14, Carl Mayer <carlmayer@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, >              Trying to trace members of the Tench Clan from Sunderland. > >              William Tench(B.1894)(Seaman) married Annie Hair(B.1896) in 1923. >              Mary Ann Tench(B.1896) married Joseph Jobling Hair(B.1900) in 1923. These were brothers/sisters marrying into the same >              families. > >              There were also a Lavinia(or Lavina) Tench and a Jimmy(James?) Tench, birth dates unknown. > >              On William`s marriage certificate his father is named as Anthony Tench(a Mason)(deceased). > >              None of the Tench`s births appear to have been recorded, nor can I find them in either the 1901 or 1911 census. > >              If anyone can throw some light on the above, I would be most grateful. > >              Regards Carl > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carl a Lavinia Tench is recorded as being born in 1913 mothers maiden name Glover Will send a BMD off list Cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Mayer" <carlmayer@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:44 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] TENCH FAMILY - SUNDERLAND Hi Listers, Trying to trace members of the Tench Clan from Sunderland. William Tench(B.1894)(Seaman) married Annie Hair(B.1896) in 1923. Mary Ann Tench(B.1896) married Joseph Jobling Hair(B.1900) in 1923. These were brothers/sisters marrying into the same families. There were also a Lavinia(or Lavina) Tench and a Jimmy(James?) Tench, birth dates unknown. On William`s marriage certificate his father is named as Anthony Tench(a Mason)(deceased). None of the Tench`s births appear to have been recorded, nor can I find them in either the 1901 or 1911 census. If anyone can throw some light on the above, I would be most grateful. Regards Carl

In the 1911 Census there are MARY Tench 32 years 1879 WILLIAM Tench 13 years 1898 MARY Tench 9 years 1902 JAMES Tench 10 MONTHS 1910 All in "Institution" presumably the workhouse, and a ROBERT TENCH age 50 born 1861 in a separate household. Where did you get the birth dates from? Stan mapstone On 17 May 2010 07:14, Carl Mayer <carlmayer@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, >              Trying to trace members of the Tench Clan from Sunderland. > >              William Tench(B.1894)(Seaman) married Annie Hair(B.1896) in 1923. >              Mary Ann Tench(B.1896) married Joseph Jobling Hair(B.1900) in 1923. These were brothers/sisters marrying into the same >              families. > >              There were also a Lavinia(or Lavina) Tench and a Jimmy(James?) Tench, birth dates unknown. > >              On William`s marriage certificate his father is named as Anthony Tench(a Mason)(deceased). > >              None of the Tench`s births appear to have been recorded, nor can I find them in either the 1901 or 1911 census. > >              If anyone can throw some light on the above, I would be most grateful. > >              Regards Carl > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Births Mar 1877 Tench Anthony Sunderland 10a 612 Stan mapstone On 17 May 2010 07:14, Carl Mayer <carlmayer@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, >              Trying to trace members of the Tench Clan from Sunderland. > >              William Tench(B.1894)(Seaman) married Annie Hair(B.1896) in 1923. >              Mary Ann Tench(B.1896) married Joseph Jobling Hair(B.1900) in 1923. These were brothers/sisters marrying into the same >              families. > >              There were also a Lavinia(or Lavina) Tench and a Jimmy(James?) Tench, birth dates unknown. > >              On William`s marriage certificate his father is named as Anthony Tench(a Mason)(deceased). > >              None of the Tench`s births appear to have been recorded, nor can I find them in either the 1901 or 1911 census. > >              If anyone can throw some light on the above, I would be most grateful. > >              Regards Carl > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Marie, Thank you for the confirmation. According the article mentioned, the origins of the coble date back to the Viking long ships that brought raiders to the North East coast. The similarities can be seen in the sleek planked design, even though modified over the years. That being accepted, it would be a general rather than specific location along the coast. Rod At 08:01 17/05/2010, MARIE KERR <mariekerr315@btinternet.com> wrote: >Am late catching up on this thread having been away a couple of days.My >husband and I ( both Sunderland born & bred and in our 60s) agree with >Eric on cobbul with a short o & short u as to how Sunderland folk >pronounce coble. Incidentally, my husband says he always thought these >boats originated in Yorkshire.?? Marie Kerr RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

Hi Listers, Trying to trace members of the Tench Clan from Sunderland. William Tench(B.1894)(Seaman) married Annie Hair(B.1896) in 1923. Mary Ann Tench(B.1896) married Joseph Jobling Hair(B.1900) in 1923. These were brothers/sisters marrying into the same families. There were also a Lavinia(or Lavina) Tench and a Jimmy(James?) Tench, birth dates unknown. On William`s marriage certificate his father is named as Anthony Tench(a Mason)(deceased). None of the Tench`s births appear to have been recorded, nor can I find them in either the 1901 or 1911 census. If anyone can throw some light on the above, I would be most grateful. Regards Carl

Am late catching up on this thread having been away a couple of days.My husband and I ( both Sunderland born & bred and in our 60s) agree with Eric on cobbul with a short o & short u as to how Sunderland folk pronounce coble. Incidentally, my husband says he always thought these boats originated in Yorkshire.?? Marie Kerr

Yes Rod, I think that is a fair representation. The Northumbrian version is long and soft whereas in Sunderland it is compacted and hard. As I said, I'm no expert, just Sunderland born and still here. Eric. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Clayburn" <rod.clayburn@one-name.org> To: "Eric Mason" <ericmason@g3yjg.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] The Northumberland Coble > > Hello Eric, > > First, my apologies to the list for my initial triple posting, I was > getting bounces and believed that I had signed off the list for my holiday > and not signed on again - in error. > > So, expanding what you say, Sunderland folk would pronounce Coble as > "Cobbul". > Am I correct? > > Many thanks > > Rod > > At 08:01 16/05/2010, eng-dur-sunderland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>Hi Rod, >> >> Here's my opinion for what it is worth but I'm no expert. >> >> Co-bull is how it is often pronounced in northern >> Northumberland. As you travel south it changes, the "o" gets harder while >> the "u" loses emphasis and eventually becomes silent. >> >> In Sunderland we pronounce it as we do cobblers, the >> difference to Yorkshire is that we say that as cobbullers with a short, >> hard "u". >> >>Eric. > > RSVP. > Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org > >

Hello Eric, First, my apologies to the list for my initial triple posting, I was getting bounces and believed that I had signed off the list for my holiday and not signed on again - in error. So, expanding what you say, Sunderland folk would pronounce Coble as "Cobbul". Am I correct? Many thanks Rod At 08:01 16/05/2010, eng-dur-sunderland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Hi Rod, > > Here's my opinion for what it is worth but I'm no expert. > > Co-bull is how it is often pronounced in northern > Northumberland. As you travel south it changes, the "o" gets harder while > the "u" loses emphasis and eventually becomes silent. > > In Sunderland we pronounce it as we do cobblers, the > difference to Yorkshire is that we say that as cobbullers with a short, > hard "u". > >Eric. RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

Hi Rod, Here's my opinion for what it is worth but I'm no expert. Co-bull is how it is often pronounced in northern Northumberland. As you travel south it changes, the "o" gets harder while the "u" loses emphasis and eventually becomes silent. In Sunderland we pronounce it as we do cobblers, the difference to Yorkshire is that we say that as cobbullers with a short, hard "u". Eric. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Clayburn" <rod.clayburn@one-name.org> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:52 AM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] The Northumberland Coble > Sunderland Listers, > > Having just read an article from September 2009 'Old Glory' magazine on > 'The Northumberland Coble', I have a query. > > The article states that, quote: > > The coble, pronounced 'co-bull' in Northumberland but referred to as the > 'cobble' in Yorkshire.' assume as in cobblers? > > Please could anyone advise me if 'co-bull' is the way they say it in > Sunderland? > > My connection is that this relates to my Sunderland Pilot families. > > Many thanks > > Rod Clayburn > > RSVP. > Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Stan, Sounds like my family... Rod At 11:32 15/05/2010, Stan Mapstone wrote: >Hi Rod, >I don't know about 'coble' but you can listen to three Sunderland >recordings at http://sounds.bl.uk/maps/Accents-and-dialects.html RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

Hi Rod, I don't know about 'coble' but you can listen to three Sunderland recordings at http://sounds.bl.uk/maps/Accents-and-dialects.html Stan Mapstone On 15 May 2010 08:52, Rod Clayburn <rod.clayburn@one-name.org> wrote: > Sunderland Listers, > > Having just read an article from September 2009 'Old Glory' magazine on > 'The Northumberland Coble', I have a query. > > The article states that, quote: > > The coble, pronounced 'co-bull' in Northumberland but referred to as the > 'cobble' in Yorkshire…' assume as in cobblers? > > Please could anyone advise me if 'co-bull' is the way they say it in > Sunderland? > > My connection is that this relates to my Sunderland Pilot families. > > Many thanks > > Rod Clayburn > > RSVP. > Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sunderland Listers, Having just read an article from September 2009 'Old Glory' magazine on 'The Northumberland Coble', I have a query. The article states that, quote: The coble, pronounced 'co-bull' in Northumberland but referred to as the 'cobble' in Yorkshire…' assume as in cobblers? Please could anyone advise me if 'co-bull' is the way they say it in Sunderland? My connection is that this relates to my Sunderland Pilot families. Many thanks Rod Clayburn RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org