Being 'home' in Sunderland I am going to the Donnison school on Tuesday not sure what they have access to but would anyone like to make enquires on whatever ? Cheers Pat Phillips

Can anyone remember a Chef that worked either at Brian Mills or Janet Frazers in the 1970s. His name was Peter Lawson and he lived in Herrington.He also worked at the Locarno where he was also a Chef. Peter's wife was called Hazel and they has 2 or 3 children. He originally came from Kent.I was told that the family used to live in Charter Drive but they are not living there now. Does anyone know of Peter. Regards Ann Hansen

I've read that a former mansion house in Ryhope, the residence of John Carr Esq, a local landowner who died in 1820 later became an Inn Does anyone know which Inn it became? The only Inns in the village around this time were the Fox, Grey Horse, Hendon Inn, Salutation Inn and Smiths Arms. I'm not sure if perhaps the mansion house could have been called Ryhope House. I can't seem to locate it on any maps Can anyone help? Many thanks Rob

Slightly off-list but hope someone can advise me.An ancestor died intestate but letters of administration (probate) were granted to a daughter.Is it worthwhile applying for a copy? Will it show details of the estate or just who received the grant? Thank-you Marie Kerr

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Bruce, His mother was Isabella Colling Dobson b.Q3 1848. It's all on FreeBMD should you wish to work out the family tree which is where I recommend you to start. Filling in the other parts comes later. Rod At 08:01 21/07/2010, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: >Hi, Listers > >I have been told that my relative, Albert Joseph Hunter Dodd (b 1882), was >educated at the Sunderland Orphan Asylum which he entered in 1893 or 95, >his widowed mother living at 44 Sea View Cottages, Grangetown, Sunderland. > >He left there on 26 Dec 1896 and went to sea, working at one time on SS >Yongala of the Adelaide Steam Shipping Co. However, he was no longer on >the Yongala when, in 1911, en route from Melbourne to Cairns, she steamed >into a cyclone and sank with no survivors . (It is now, according to >Google, a very popular Scuba-diving site) > >His father was Joseph Hunter Dodd (1846-91). I don't know his mother's name. > >That's all I "know". I cannot say which details of this story are fact >and which are scraps of family legend. > >Can anyone suggest where I might look for more, please? > >Bruce Dodd >Ottawa RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

On 21/07/2010 06:26, "Bruce Dodd" <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > educated at the Sunderland Orphan Asylum which he entered in 1893 or > 95, his widowed mother living at 44 Sea View Cottages, Grangetown, > Sunderland. > > He left there on 26 Dec 1896 and went to sea, See http://www.wearsideonline.com/sunderland_orphanage.html The orphanage was founded for sons of seamen.. Robin

On 21/07/2010 06:26, "Bruce Dodd" <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > > I have been told that my relative, Albert Joseph Hunter Dodd (b 1882), GRO Ref Sunderland 1883 MarQ Volume 10a page 601 1891 Census RG12; Piece: 4139; Folio 103; Page 17 Living at 15 Villers Street, Bishopwearmouth with father Joseph Hunter Dodd a Pawn Broker (wife Isabella C), 5 siblings and a nurse. Can send image if you want. You can find some of the births and deaths by searching at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl You can also find his father's marriage in Sunderland RD in1874 To Isabella COLLING Regards Robin

Hi, Listers I have been told that my relative, Albert Joseph Hunter Dodd (b 1882), was educated at the Sunderland Orphan Asylum which he entered in 1893 or 95, his widowed mother living at 44 Sea View Cottages, Grangetown, Sunderland. He left there on 26 Dec 1896 and went to sea, working at one time on SS Yongala of the Adelaide Steam Shipping Co. However, he was no longer on the Yongala when, in 1911, en route from Melbourne to Cairns, she steamed into a cyclone and sank with no survivors . (It is now, according to Google, a very popular Scuba-diving site) His father was Joseph Hunter Dodd (1846-91). I don't know his mother's name. That's all I "know". I cannot say which details of this story are fact and which are scraps of family legend. Can anyone suggest where I might look for more, please? Bruce Dodd Ottawa

I have just unsubscribed and then subscribed with a new email address I am just testing to check that I am receiving individual mails Cheers Pat Phillips

Certificates of Vaccination; Compulsory Vaccination Act. 1853 (16 & 17 Victoria, cap 100). Medical Certificate of Successful Vaccination (To be delivered {pursuant to Section IV} to the Father or Mother of every child successfully Vaccinated, or to the Person having the Care, Nurture, or Custody of such Child) I, the undersigned, hereby certify, that _______ aged __ months, the Child of ______ and residing at _________ in the County of _______ has been successfully vaccinated by me Dated __________ Signed __________ (The Reverse reads) This certificate should be carefully preserved by the Parents of the within-named Child; it being, without further proof, admissible as evidence of the successful Vaccination of the Child in any Information or Complaint which shall be brought against the Father or Mother of the Child; or against the Person who shall have had the Care, Nurture, or Custody of such Child, for non-compliance with the provisions of the winthin-mentioned Act ( Section IV) Form D. The Vaccination Act of 1867 (30 and 31 Victoria, cap 84.) Medical Certificate of Successful Vaccination. (To be delivered (pursuant to section XX1.) to the Father or Mother of every child successfully Vaccinated, or to the person having custody of the child.) I, the undersigned, hereby certify, that (1) ______ the Child (2) of ______ aged(3) _____ (stated to have been born at (4) ______in the Parish or Township of ______ in the County or Borough of __________ has been successfully vaccinated by me. Dated this (5) ______ (Signature of the Person certifying) ______ Add "Public Vaccinator of the Union or Parish of ---------(left blank) or Medical Practitioner of --------- (left blank) and add professional titles (i.e. M.D., L.A.C., or F.R.C.S., or otherwise as the case may be) Stan Mapstone >

Hi Bruce The Poor Law Guardians had to divide unions and parishes into "vaccination districts" and a duly registered medical practitioner was contracted to be the "Public Vaccinator" for the vaccination of all persons resident within each district. The vaccinators were paid 1 shilling and six pence for each child vaccinated, rising to 2 shillings between one and two miles, and 3 shilling over two miles from his residence The 1/6 was not a fee it was a payment to the 'vaccinator' Stan Mapstone On 13 July 2010 08:55, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > The 1867 Vaccination Act made vaccination compulsory for all infants, > and set out procedures for the registration of successful > vaccinations. The Act came into force on 1st. January 1868, when it > became a criminal offence for a parent to continually deny a child > vaccination up to the age of 14 years, and to be liable to a penalty, > on summary proceedings, of 20 shillings for so doing. The justices > could make an order for the vaccination of a child under 14. The Act > required that on a child being registered, or within seven days, the > registrar was to give a notice to the parent, or other person, to have > the child vaccinated within three months. A certificate of vaccination > was to be sent to the Registrar and a duplicate given to the parent. > > Stan Mapstone >

The 1867 Vaccination Act made vaccination compulsory for all infants, and set out procedures for the registration of successful vaccinations. The Act came into force on 1st. January 1868, when it became a criminal offence for a parent to continually deny a child vaccination up to the age of 14 years, and to be liable to a penalty, on summary proceedings, of 20 shillings for so doing. The justices could make an order for the vaccination of a child under 14. The Act required that on a child being registered, or within seven days, the registrar was to give a notice to the parent, or other person, to have the child vaccinated within three months. A certificate of vaccination was to be sent to the Registrar and a duplicate given to the parent. Stan Mapstone On 13 July 2010 08:50, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce > 1840 ( Smallpox) Vaccination Act made free vaccination available as a > charge on the poor rates. Vaccination was, thereby, the first free > health service provided through legislation on a national scale and > available to all. > 1841 Vaccination Act declared that vaccination should not be > considered as “parochial relief” and that no person shall by reason of > vaccination be deprived of any right or privilege or be subject to any > disqualification whatsoever. 1853 Vaccination Act introduced > compulsory vaccination for all infants within four months of birth, > but contained no powers of enforcement. Responsibility was with the > poor law guardians. 1867 Vaccination Act consolidated and amended previous acts; made > vaccination compulsory for all infants; set out procedures for the > registration of successful vaccinations, and the appointment and > payment of public vaccinators; prohibited the inoculation of any > person with "variolous matter"; and made the boards of guardians > responsible for the administration of the act. > > Stan Mapstone >

Hi Bruce 1840 ( Smallpox) Vaccination Act made free vaccination available as a charge on the poor rates. Vaccination was, thereby, the first free health service provided through legislation on a national scale and available to all. 1841 Vaccination Act declared that vaccination should not be considered as “parochial relief” and that no person shall by reason of vaccination be deprived of any right or privilege or be subject to any disqualification whatsoever. 1853 Vaccination Act introduced compulsory vaccination for all infants within four months of birth, but contained no powers of enforcement. Responsibility was with the poor law guardians. 1867 Vaccination Act consolidated and amended previous acts; made vaccination compulsory for all infants; set out procedures for the registration of successful vaccinations, and the appointment and payment of public vaccinators; prohibited the inoculation of any person with "variolous matter"; and made the boards of guardians responsible for the administration of the act. Stan Mapstone On 13 July 2010 05:29, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi, Listers: >        I have previously sent queries involving my grandfather, William > Dodd, Chemist and Druggist, of Roker Ave., Monkwearmouth.  Around 1880, > according to my father's flyleaf addition, he made a scrap-book of > newspaper clippings (one clearly dated 1877) on topics that took his > fancy.  He must have had good eyes, for the type is minute.  He used > (waste not, want not)  an old pre-printed Register of Vaccination, > pasting his clippings so as to cover completely the columns of entries. >        But not quite all.  Near the back, following a block of blank > pages, are three pages of unobscured entries dated 1859, 1861 and 1862. > All those vaccinated were under six months old.  The fee, incidentally, > was 1/6 apiece, which seems to me a bit steep for that time.  The column > headed "Parish in which Resident" is filled with street names, many hard > to read, but Vine and Hopper Streets are easy.  If Mr Dodd made these > entries, he was no penman. >        Some questions come to my mind, assuming that no doctor would > ever let such a register out of his hands.  Was a Chemist and Druggist > (especially one not long qualified) allowed in those days to administer > vaccinations?  Why vaccinations to such young children?  Was there a > sudden outbreak of some disease in Monkwearmouth at that time? >        Any ideas, anyone? > > Bruce Dodd, > Ottawa > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Listers: I have previously sent queries involving my grandfather, William Dodd, Chemist and Druggist, of Roker Ave., Monkwearmouth. Around 1880, according to my father's flyleaf addition, he made a scrap-book of newspaper clippings (one clearly dated 1877) on topics that took his fancy. He must have had good eyes, for the type is minute. He used (waste not, want not) an old pre-printed Register of Vaccination, pasting his clippings so as to cover completely the columns of entries. But not quite all. Near the back, following a block of blank pages, are three pages of unobscured entries dated 1859, 1861 and 1862. All those vaccinated were under six months old. The fee, incidentally, was 1/6 apiece, which seems to me a bit steep for that time. The column headed "Parish in which Resident" is filled with street names, many hard to read, but Vine and Hopper Streets are easy. If Mr Dodd made these entries, he was no penman. Some questions come to my mind, assuming that no doctor would ever let such a register out of his hands. Was a Chemist and Druggist (especially one not long qualified) allowed in those days to administer vaccinations? Why vaccinations to such young children? Was there a sudden outbreak of some disease in Monkwearmouth at that time? Any ideas, anyone? Bruce Dodd, Ottawa

Hi, Listers My dad, William D Dodd of Roker Ave., kept a little book called a Birthday Oracle, a date book with a philosophical gem for each day. In it he kept notes of birthdays (mostly) but also of deaths and weddings. He began it during World War I. Most entries don't mention a year, and some add notes in Pitman. There are many people unknown to me and probably genealogically irrelevant: among those I do know are a number of Sunderland Bruces who became my uncles and my mother. Among the unknowns is a C L Bruce or L C Bruce, with the C and L superimposed like the symbol for 'centreline'. Date: March 10. The person is noted as "an army pharmacist and later a Braille benefactor". I know a long shot when I see one, but does any lister happen to know of such a Bruce, please? Bruce Dodd Ottawa

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Hi, Stan: One of the many things I've learned from following this list daily is that when Stan Mapstone writes, ``As far as I am aware .....`` it`s time to give up on that subject and start considering another question. I`ll assume that all the Sunderland Parish transcripts in the Diocesan Registry actually wound up on film, and abandon that hunt. I`m sure I can find something else to do. Thank you Stan, yet again. And also for the little historical background you threw in for good measure. Bruce Dodd Ottawa, ON eng-dur-sunderland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > I think you have to consider how the returns, required to be sent in > by the parishes to the Diocesan Registry, were treated and filed. > Before 1812, bishops’ transcripts were usually recorded on loose > pieces of paper, following that year, the transcripts were recorded on > the same pre-printed forms as parish registers. It appears that the > returns from Wallsend were accidentally filed with the Sunderland > returns, and this was not realised when they were being filmed. As far > as I am aware there are no other sources for the transcripts, apart > from going to see them at the record office. > > Stan > > On 15 June 2010 04:36, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Listers All: >> >> Thanks to those who offered help re the Bishop's Transcripts. >> >> In addition, I have to apologize to Stan Mapstone. I ought to have >> known that the subject of Wallsend's transcripts' being included within >> Sunderland's would already have been covered, and looked for it. It >> adds weight to my suspicion that I'm not always smart enough to use what >> I already know. >> >> But the Bishop's Transcripts, especially for the Parish of Sunderland, >> seem still a bit of a mystery. Are those shown on that web site all >> that exist, even in the Bishop's archives; or only those that have been >> digitized; or only a subset of those digitized selected to be shown on >> the site? >> >> Is there another site to be consulted? Another source of Sunderland or >> other transcripts? >> >> And, as a matter of pure curiosity, can anyone suggest a reason that the >> error still persists ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bruce Dodd >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND list administrator, send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND mailing list, send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 06:35:00 > >

Hi Bruce, I think you have to consider how the returns, required to be sent in by the parishes to the Diocesan Registry, were treated and filed. Before 1812, bishops’ transcripts were usually recorded on loose pieces of paper, following that year, the transcripts were recorded on the same pre-printed forms as parish registers. It appears that the returns from Wallsend were accidentally filed with the Sunderland returns, and this was not realised when they were being filmed. As far as I am aware there are no other sources for the transcripts, apart from going to see them at the record office. Stan On 15 June 2010 04:36, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi, Listers All: > > Thanks to those who offered help re the Bishop's Transcripts. > > In addition, I have to apologize to Stan Mapstone.  I ought to have > known that the subject of Wallsend's transcripts' being included within > Sunderland's would already have been covered, and looked for it.  It > adds weight to my suspicion that I'm not always smart enough to use what > I already know. > > But the Bishop's Transcripts, especially for the Parish of Sunderland, > seem still a bit of a mystery.  Are those shown on that web site all > that exist, even in the Bishop's archives; or only those that have been > digitized;  or only a subset of  those digitized selected to be shown on > the site? > > Is there another site to be consulted?  Another source of Sunderland or > other transcripts? > > And, as a matter of pure curiosity, can anyone suggest a reason that the > error still persists ? > > Thanks, > > Bruce Dodd > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Listers All: Thanks to those who offered help re the Bishop's Transcripts. In addition, I have to apologize to Stan Mapstone. I ought to have known that the subject of Wallsend's transcripts' being included within Sunderland's would already have been covered, and looked for it. It adds weight to my suspicion that I'm not always smart enough to use what I already know. But the Bishop's Transcripts, especially for the Parish of Sunderland, seem still a bit of a mystery. Are those shown on that web site all that exist, even in the Bishop's archives; or only those that have been digitized; or only a subset of those digitized selected to be shown on the site? Is there another site to be consulted? Another source of Sunderland or other transcripts? And, as a matter of pure curiosity, can anyone suggest a reason that the error still persists ? Thanks, Bruce Dodd