Hello everyone Was in Sunderland not long ago and took some photos of the inside of Holy Trinity & The Minster plus a few of the Donnison School as is If anyone would like to see them sing out and I can email off list Cheers Pat Phillips

Whilst the sanatorium is no longer there (it's now a housing erstate), I'd appreciate any information as to its background and history. Many thanks Richard Moss

Does anyone on the list recall the names & whereabouts of sweet factories in Sunderland? I can recall the Mayfair on the corner of Old Chester Road & Low Row near St Mary's School but my 94 yr old aunt worked at another one in the area.I remember her telling me that in WW2 they used Vaux stables as their air-raid shelter, if that helps pin it down. Thank-you, Marie Kerr

Does anyone have a green GRO marriage certificate, or one issued by Sunderland registrar for the above church before 1940? If so would you be prepared to send me a scan by e-mail? (or two halves for the locally issued one.) I have already identified a couple of marriages, that I have printed out from the original church records on microfilm. While I don't have a problem with the Latin names etc, I would be interested to see a 'proper' certificate & its full wording for this Church, rather than the Latin entry which is rather minimal, though it does give the Mothers' names also. Many thanks, Grant White Born Sunderland, now living London, England Always on the lookout for the major shipbuilding families of Wearside.

Hi Bruce, In the 1841 Census a William Speciall, age 28, and a R(b)t. Speciall, age 17, were schoolmasters in Stockton. It was Robert who drowned Deaths Dec 1845 SPECIALL Robert Styles Sunderland 24 151 In the 1861 Census Joseph Speciall was at 30 Villiers Street. Stan Mapstone On 25 September 2010 08:56, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bruce, > In the 1851 Sunderland Directory there are 85 schools listed including > that of Joseph Speciall at 3 Villiers Street. The school is not there > in the 1858 Directory. > > Stan Mapstone > > On 25 September 2010 04:41, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: >> Hi, Listers >> >> My grandfather was educated at Speciall's Academy on Villiers Street, >> Sunderland, which he left at the end of 1850 to serve an apprenticeship >> to a druggist and chemist. >> >> I've been looking through an 1897 book titled "/Dr Cowan and the Grange >> School/".  As well as a description of the school, the book recounts how >> a group of 38 boys and 4 masters went bathing at the beach at Hendon in >> October, 1845.  Three boys and one master, a Mr Speciall, were drowned >> in what seems to have been a sudden undertow. >> >> Speciall isn't a common name in my experience.  Can any lister tell me >> anything about Speciall's Academy, and say whether there was more than >> one Mr Speciall involved in these two schools? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Bruce Dodd, >> Ottawa, ON >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >> We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. >> SPAMfighter has removed 182 of my spam emails to date. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> The Professional version does not have this message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Hi Bruce, In the 1851 Sunderland Directory there are 85 schools listed including that of Joseph Speciall at 3 Villiers Street. The school is not there in the 1858 Directory. Stan Mapstone On 25 September 2010 04:41, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi, Listers > > My grandfather was educated at Speciall's Academy on Villiers Street, > Sunderland, which he left at the end of 1850 to serve an apprenticeship > to a druggist and chemist. > > I've been looking through an 1897 book titled "/Dr Cowan and the Grange > School/".  As well as a description of the school, the book recounts how > a group of 38 boys and 4 masters went bathing at the beach at Hendon in > October, 1845.  Three boys and one master, a Mr Speciall, were drowned > in what seems to have been a sudden undertow. > > Speciall isn't a common name in my experience.  Can any lister tell me > anything about Speciall's Academy, and say whether there was more than > one Mr Speciall involved in these two schools? > > Thank you, > > Bruce Dodd, > Ottawa, ON > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 182 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Listers My grandfather was educated at Speciall's Academy on Villiers Street, Sunderland, which he left at the end of 1850 to serve an apprenticeship to a druggist and chemist. I've been looking through an 1897 book titled "/Dr Cowan and the Grange School/". As well as a description of the school, the book recounts how a group of 38 boys and 4 masters went bathing at the beach at Hendon in October, 1845. Three boys and one master, a Mr Speciall, were drowned in what seems to have been a sudden undertow. Speciall isn't a common name in my experience. Can any lister tell me anything about Speciall's Academy, and say whether there was more than one Mr Speciall involved in these two schools? Thank you, Bruce Dodd, Ottawa, ON -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 182 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hello Rob, Rod and Listers, Of the list of societies, clubs etc listed as being connected to a Anglican church, only the Mothers Union and the Church of England Mens Society are national or universal organizations within the Church of England. The others are individual parish clubs etc. Hope this helps. D.Bramble. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Clayburn" <rod.clayburn@one-name.org> To: "ROB SHEPHERD" <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> Cc: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Christian Societies > Rob, > > I suggest placing each of the names into a search engine like Google, I > tried a couple and they reveal lots of data. > > Rod > > At 08:01 22/08/2010, you wrote: >>Can anyone on the list tell me anything of the history and purpose of any >>of >>the following Christian Societies I've come across whilst researching my >>family in Sunderland: >> >>Church Institute >>Womens Guild >>Childrens Guild >>St. Phillip's Guild >>Mothers Union >>Mothers Meeting >>Church of England Mens Society >> >>Many thanks >> >>Rob > > RSVP. > Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Rob, I suggest placing each of the names into a search engine like Google, I tried a couple and they reveal lots of data. Rod At 08:01 22/08/2010, you wrote: >Can anyone on the list tell me anything of the history and purpose of any of >the following Christian Societies I've come across whilst researching my >family in Sunderland: > >Church Institute >Womens Guild >Childrens Guild >St. Phillip's Guild >Mothers Union >Mothers Meeting >Church of England Mens Society > >Many thanks > >Rob RSVP. Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org

Can anyone on the list tell me anything of the history and purpose of any of the following Christian Societies I've come across whilst researching my family in Sunderland: Church Institute Womens Guild Childrens Guild St. Phillip's Guild Mothers Union Mothers Meeting Church of England Mens Society Many thanks Rob

There was a considerable trade by Sunderland Potteries in the sale of "Gift China" to sailors plying between ports. Pottery was frequently made for presentation purposes, to commemorate birthdays, baptisms, weddings, etc. It could be that someone ordered the jugs as a gift for your great, great grandparents. Stan Mapstone On 19 August 2010 18:40, Wyn <wrb41@sky.com> wrote: > Hello all > > > > I am new to this list but have subscribed to the Sussex list, and dabbled > with others for several years and have always found people on the lists to > be very knowledgeable & helpful > > > > I am looking for help to solve a problem that has occurred within my Family > History. > > > > Two Sunderland Lustre ware Jugs have recently appeared in an auction in > Dorset inscribed with the names of my Great, Great Grandparents Sarah Payne > and Bernard Berry from Chideock, Dorset - both dated in the 19th century. > > > > I have so far been unable to find a link for the Payne or Berry family with > the North East and am wondering if anybody on this list is able to provide > me with any ideas. > > > > I do hope somebody will be able to help > > > > Wyn Burgess > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Wyn and Listers, Some years ago I was asked to find out about a grandfather from Durham who met and married in Dorset. The 1881 census gave his abode as Durham but birth place as Dorset. Research revealed that around that time many left the South to work in the North East of England. That included a member of my Kent BRAMBLE family who was a railway signalman at Bishopswearmouth. They did not all return South. I am still researching my Edward and Jane BRAMBLE'S descendants in Newcastle upon Tyne and Canada. Regards, Dennis Bramble. Researching, BRAMBLE, HALL and NEWMAN (Co.Durham & N-u-Tyne) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wyn" <wrb41@sky.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Sunderland Jugs and the Payne Family > Hello all > > > > I am new to this list but have subscribed to the Sussex list, and dabbled > with others for several years and have always found people on the lists to > be very knowledgeable & helpful > > > > I am looking for help to solve a problem that has occurred within my > Family > History. > > > > Two Sunderland Lustre ware Jugs have recently appeared in an auction in > Dorset inscribed with the names of my Great, Great Grandparents Sarah > Payne > and Bernard Berry from Chideock, Dorset - both dated in the 19th century. > > > > I have so far been unable to find a link for the Payne or Berry family > with > the North East and am wondering if anybody on this list is able to provide > me with any ideas. > > > > I do hope somebody will be able to help > > > > Wyn Burgess > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hello all I am new to this list but have subscribed to the Sussex list, and dabbled with others for several years and have always found people on the lists to be very knowledgeable & helpful I am looking for help to solve a problem that has occurred within my Family History. Two Sunderland Lustre ware Jugs have recently appeared in an auction in Dorset inscribed with the names of my Great, Great Grandparents Sarah Payne and Bernard Berry from Chideock, Dorset - both dated in the 19th century. I have so far been unable to find a link for the Payne or Berry family with the North East and am wondering if anybody on this list is able to provide me with any ideas. I do hope somebody will be able to help Wyn Burgess

What's the world coming to--next they will be saying Stan-hope instead of Stannup Janis USA Who blunders through pronunciation often to the amusement of others

Hi Bruce, Would that knowledge of how to pronounce Ryhope be the old way of 'Ry-up' or the new posh way of 'Ry-hope'! I always used the old version until I started working at Cherry Knowle and found people calling it Ry-hope. I still have relatives living in Ryhope who call it 'Ry-up', but the new posher version seems to be coming into common use. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Dodd" <bmdodd@rogers.com> To: <eng-dur-sunderland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Census location > Hi, Listers >>From your replies it's clear that all the "Part of" entries add up to > Ryhope (which, thanks to my Sunderland parents, I know how to > pronounce). > Bruce Dodd

Hi Bruce, RG13 Piece 4717 Folio 30 Page 52 is Sea View Street in Grangetown, although in 1901 it was in the Civil parish of Ryhope and the Ecclesiastical parish of Ryhope St Paul. In 1911 it was in the parish of Grangetown St. Aidan which was created from Ryhope St. Paul. Stan Mapstone On 10 August 2010 04:21, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi, Listers > Yet again I thank you for your good nature, expertise, and helpfulness. > >From your replies it's clear that all the "Part of" entries add up to > Ryhope (which, thanks to my Sunderland parents, I know how to > pronounce). Also, among you, you have added much detail to mesh into my > existing family knowledge. > > I must also apologize to Stan for being a slow learner. He has often > told listers to include the Public Record Office reference with > questions. I knew better, but forgot. Here goes: RG 13 / 4717 Page 52. > > Thank you all again. I shall check out all your leads. > > Bruce Dodd > Ottawa, ON > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Listers Yet again I thank you for your good nature, expertise, and helpfulness. >From your replies it's clear that all the "Part of" entries add up to Ryhope (which, thanks to my Sunderland parents, I know how to pronounce). Also, among you, you have added much detail to mesh into my existing family knowledge. I must also apologize to Stan for being a slow learner. He has often told listers to include the Public Record Office reference with questions. I knew better, but forgot. Here goes: RG 13 / 4717 Page 52. Thank you all again. I shall check out all your leads. Bruce Dodd Ottawa, ON

Hello all, Just to confirm what Stan has said that Woodbine Terrace has gone completely...I was brought up in Pallion. There was one small house still standing by itself up to around ten years ago, and being used as a Newsagent. Cheers Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Mapstone" <stanmapstone@gmail.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND] Woodbine Terrace > Just to add that both areas have been redeveloped. Woodbine Street is > still > there, but Woodbine Terrace has gone. > Stan Mapstone > > On 9 August 2010 13:44, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Doris >> Woodbine Terrace was in Pallion, Woodbine Street was in Hendon. >> >> Stan Mapstone >> >> >> On 9 August 2010 12:57, John.harker <john.harker@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi ,wonder if any one can help a friend of mine ,who now lives in New >>> Zealand , >>> he is looking for a photograph of Woodbine Terrace ( i think Hendon ) >>> Sunderland ,some of his ancesters lived here >>> many thanks for any help with regards to this . >>> >>> Doris >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the 1901 census Sea View (street) Grangetown starts with an Arthur Fretwell at RG13 Folio 4717 Piece 26 Page 43 Civil parish: Ryhope Ecclesiastical parish: Ryhope St Paul. The headings on the census page are the same as those given by Bruce Just to add that the Sea View in Ryhope starts with a John Braugh at RG13 Folio 4717 Piece 36 Page 2 Civil parish: Ryhope Ecclesiastical parish: Ryhope St Paul. So it is the one at coordinates 440880, 554660. Put Sea View St Sunderland in to Google Maps and you can see it on Street View. Stan Mapstone On 9 August 2010 12:32, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > If it is the 1901 Census then it could be either Sea View Street in > Grangetown which is in Enumeration District 32, RG13/4717. Ocean Road was > the County Borough Boundary, the other Sea View is in Enumeration District > 33, also RG13/4717. > > Stan Mapstone > > > On 9 August 2010 11:48, Rod Clayburn <rod.clayburn@one-name.org> wrote: > >> Bruce, >> >> Go to 'Google Maps' website and type in 'Sea View, Ryhope, Sunderland'. >> Then go to 'Street View' and see what they look like now. >> >> The old buildings have more or less all gone, don't know how old the >> oldest >> ones are, but doubt if they are from the1901 era? >> >> Rod >> >> At 08:01 09/08/2010, Bruce Dodd <bmdodd@rogers.com> wrote: >> >Hi, Listers >> > >> >I have a census facsimile that shows a street named Sea View in the Civil >> >Parish "Ryhope (Part of)"; Ecclesiastical Parish "St Pauls Ryhope, Part >> >of"; Rural district "Sunderland (Part of)"; Parliamentary ----- or >> >Division of "Part of Houghton-le-Spring"; Village. >> > >> >After all these "parts", where can a Sunderland non-native reasonably >> >conclude that these people lived? >> > >> >Thanks for any help. >> > >> >Bruce Dodd >> >Ottawa, ON >> >> RSVP. >> Please support the St.George Foundation: www.adecentlife.org >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Just to add that both areas have been redeveloped. Woodbine Street is still there, but Woodbine Terrace has gone. Stan Mapstone On 9 August 2010 13:44, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Doris > Woodbine Terrace was in Pallion, Woodbine Street was in Hendon. > > Stan Mapstone > > > On 9 August 2010 12:57, John.harker <john.harker@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Hi ,wonder if any one can help a friend of mine ,who now lives in New >> Zealand , >> he is looking for a photograph of Woodbine Terrace ( i think Hendon ) >> Sunderland ,some of his ancesters lived here >> many thanks for any help with regards to this . >> Doris >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >