We are looking for descendants of Robert Andrew JAMESON (1832 -1872 b Yell, SHI, SCT d Sunderland, Eng) and Janet Margaret Ingram THOMASON (1831-1907 b Fetlar, SHI, SCT d MA, USA) Jane and Robert moved to Sunderland about 1860-1861. Their children were Robert Andrew, Mary, Thomas T, Charles, William and James John. The first two were born in the Shetlands and the others in Monkwearmouth, Sunderland. Thomas, James and Jane came to the US between 1881 and 1886 and lived in Massachusetts. Thomas was my husband's grandfather. We think William may have come to the US too. We have lots of information on Thomas' and James' families. We know Robert Andrew went by Andrew and we may have found him in the 1891 census in Middlesbrough with wife Fanny C (born Hants. Woolston ?)and these children:Andrew R, George W, Amelia, James, Alfred and Charles F. Family tales tell us that they had many, many more children and stayed in England. We don't know what happened to Mary, but think she was a housemaid in Scotland in the 1881 census. There must be many, many descendants of this family around somewhere, and we hope to be able to find them ! Barbara Jameson marksnana@juno.com or bpjameson@adelphia.net

Eddie, There is a Mary Allan born 1869 in Sunderland in LDS. George Lindsay 38 years born Sunderland in 1901 census UK Mary Lindsay 30 " " " There are also family trees in the, Ask Jeeves, site. Regards Dawn

If anyone has access to the 1871 Census for Sunderland, in Durham would you please check the following: My great grandfather Alexander James ROSS Wife ??? Son: James ROSS age 7 Son: George Andrew ROSS age 4 or 5 There could be other siblings that I am not aware of. I am trying to establish the name of the wife of Alexander James ROSS. Thank you for your assistance. Bev Froom

Margaret I noticed your SMITH interest - my GGG father, Joseph Michael SMITH, was born in Sunderland c1811, and had nine children, all born in Sunderland - William (c1853), Ann (1854), Thomas, Joseph Michael (c1859), Richard Dickinson (c1864), Albert (c1868), Grant Francis Octonary (1877 - the eighth child!), Gladstone Joseph (c1880). Any possible connection? Mike Mellor Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret murdoch" <mgtmurdoch@clara.co.uk> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:23 AM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] THOMPSON and HAMILTON > Just introducing myself to the list and registering my interests. I am > researching SMITH, STEPHENSON, COLLING, THOMPSON and THWAITES in Sunderland > (mainly Monkwearmouth area). > > If anyone has access to the 1851 census for Monkwearmouth, I would be most > grateful if they would look-up the entry for John THOMPSON (house builder) > and his wife Isabella (nee HAMILTON). They should have children, Mary, > Margaret, Jane, John and maybe Phyllis. > > Margaret Murdoch, in Cumbria. > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > History of Sunderland, > http://www.sunderland-index.co.uk/history/history01.html >

Hi, I'm wondering if there's anyone in Sunderland who would be willing to take a digital photo of 48 Roker Avenue and mail it to me? CW Tait was a family business, but the current owners know little of my family. I would love an opportunity to see where my great grandfather grew up. Many thanks, Kim Minnesota USA Sunderland Names: TAIT, BROWELL, COWENS, HALFNIGHT

Does anyone know anything about the following Allan? Margaret Anne Allan b. 1872 in Sunderland d. September 1903 in Sunderland. Married George Lindsay Arthur 11 September 1893. St Marks Church Millfield Many thanks for any information Eddie Arthur --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/2003

Reference my previous message and URL it seems that you cannot go directly to that page, try this link then  search <A HREF="http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/">Images of England</A> or http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/ Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello to Dawn and Stan First to you Dawn I will certainly check up the Elizabeth you mention it is to late for my Grt Grandmother but it may be her daughter, so thanks for the info. Now Stan the site you mention may have info on the Pilot Hotel, High St, but I am also looking for a Eden Street may be in Bishopwearmouth area, so I thank you also for info received. Regards to all Allan 28/10/03 15:07

I found an Elizabeth Allen married Malcolm Scott in 1887 Sunderland in the BMD if that is any help. Regards Dawn

This site 'Images of England' at <A HREF="http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/">http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/</A> has 109 photographs of listed buildings, etc. in Sunderland and District, you will have to register to see them all. You can search without registering but are limited to 50 results. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi List, After a bit of a break from the mailing lists I would like to list my interests in the Durham area. I am looking for information from any of the census from 1871 backwards for Patrick GOVERS who married Sarah CONNOR in the 4th quarter of 1854; he was born about 1840 and died before the 1881 census. I believe that John GOVERS is shown as Patrick’s father on the marriage certificate. The only child that I am aware of is John who was born on the 11th of June 1862 in Sunderland and for some reason, only known to the registrar, his surname on the birth certificate was entered as GOVIS instead of GOVERS. Any information on Patrick or Sarah would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Andy Nurse in the land of Oz --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003

Just introducing myself to the list and registering my interests. I am researching SMITH, STEPHENSON, COLLING, THOMPSON and THWAITES in Sunderland (mainly Monkwearmouth area). If anyone has access to the 1851 census for Monkwearmouth, I would be most grateful if they would look-up the entry for John THOMPSON (house builder) and his wife Isabella (nee HAMILTON). They should have children, Mary, Margaret, Jane, John and maybe Phyllis. Margaret Murdoch, in Cumbria.

Hi Margaret and George Just a big thank you for all your help it has opened up several new roads to follow, but and this is for every one else out there as well, that Scottish connection is very elusive i mean my Grt Grandfather James Allan's birth place 1834-1836. Thanks again Regards Allan 25/10/03 15:177

Hi again Alan Have you tried Freebmd as Icame across Colin Herbert Allan married Sept quarter 1902 Coilin Herbert Allan born Dec qu 1903 Colin Herbert Allan died aged 0 dec qu 1903 Colin Herbert Allan born dec qu 1904 There is also mention of Albert George and Henry Arthur Allan but Idid not have time to check any more Regards George

Hi Allan The 1891 census shows the Allan family living at 14Eden Street Bishopwearmouth James Allan head 56 master mariner born Scotland Elizabeth Allan wife 54 born Sunderland James Allan son 28 born Sunderland Bertam son 17 carpenter apprentice born Sunderland Albert Gordon Allan son 16 born Sunderland Colin Herbert Allan son 11 scholar born Sunderland Mary Jane Mc Leod grand-daughter 16 servant Cannot read the occupations of James and Albert because of pencil marks Hope this is of some use to you George Sunderland

Hi Stan Thanks for your mail, Re my Grandfather Ernest William Allan, but i have all his details via Lanks constabulary plus his marriage certificate and death details i also know he and my Grandmother are buried in Grangetown cemetery Sunderland. As for my Grt Grandfather and all the rest of his children nothing apart from his Birth place is Scotland. Anyway i can only hope my message is picked, up as you have done, and further information is forthcoming. Thank you again Regards Allan 24/10/03 14:28

Hi All I am trying again to get posting onto the Allan mailing list. Details from 1881 census James Allan and Elizabeth Allan no maiden name, residing at the Pilot Hotel, High St, Sunderland, Co Durham, by profession Master mariner. His family at that time consisted of the following. James Allan aged 18 Elizabeth Allan aged 15 Ernest William Allan aged 14 my Grandfather Henry Arthur Allan aged 12 Margaret Allan aged 10 Bertram Allan aged 7 Albert Gordon Allan aged 6 Colin Herbert Allan aged 1 I will be very pleased to hear from anyone with information on any of the above, i should add their religion was Methodist and my Grt Grandfather may be buried in Grangetown cemetery. Regards to all Allan 23/10/03 16:00

In a message dated 23/10/2003 17:43:30 GMT Daylight Time, emmo@emmerson1772.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Ernest William Allan aged 14 my Grandfather > Hi Allan, I don't know if you have details from the 1901 Census, but there is an Ernest Allan aged 34 who is a police sergeant in Preston. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Everyone I am a Co-ordinator for the Freecensus Project and look after the Durham area. I am just putting a message on the mailing list to let you know of the Freecen project and its new free to view and searchable website. The transcriptions uploaded cover quite a few parts of the country, including some for Scotland and also cover various years depending on the area. Unfortunately we have none on the website for Durham at the moment but I am in the process of validating a piece for Easington 1891 and we also have 3 others awaiting checking. So, hopefully in the next 2 weeks the Easington one will be on the website. If anyone would like further information on what is involved to join this very worthwhile project then please do contact me 'off list' and I will get back to you asap. I would also like to point out that Rootsweb fully endorse this project and they provide us with the webpages for the transcriptions. Regards Carol Barber FreeCensus Co-ordinator for Durham and WRY Queen of the North http://freecen.rootsweb.com

Unsubscribe 10/20/03 9:00:20 PM, ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain > >ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 255 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [SUNDERLAND] COATES ["JayneCanada" <spiregen@webcomcrea] > #2 [SUNDERLAND] subscriber [<pentony@infogen.net.nz>] > #3 Re: [SUNDERLAND] subscriber ["JayneCanada" <spiregen@webcomcrea] > >Administrivia: >To post to the list, messages should be sent to >ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > >To unsubscribe from ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D, send a message to > > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D list administrator, send mail to >ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 15:42:49 -0400 >From: "JayneCanada" <spiregen@webcomcreations.com> >To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <073101c39679$3659f460$c47ba8c0@MAIN> >Subject: [SUNDERLAND] COATES >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >My 3rd great grandmother was Elizabeth COATES. When she married my 3rd >great grandfather, George DAVISON, on 15 Oct 1845 she was residing at 21, >Vine Street, Sunderland. Elizabeth gives her father's name as John COATES, >Mariner. > >>From their entry in the 1851 Bishopwearmouth census Elizabeth was aged 28 >years with her place of birth given as Sunderland. Her birth year >calculates to be approximately 1823. > >I have been unable to find them in 1861 census CD from Archive CD Books and >in 1881 George and Elizabeth are listed as living at 11, Cliff Terrace with >their widowed daughter Elizabeth SCOTT and their three SCOTT grandchildren > >The only Elizabeth COATES I can find so far is from the IGI and was baptized >in Sunderland 22 Sep 1822 to John COATES and Mary Ann HARDY. The other I >have found is one baptized in Auckland 3 Dec 1823 to John COATES and >Elizabeth. > >Knowing both areas somewhat I would say the Elizabeth in 1822 is mine but >obviously before I can say 100% that she is I need to do further >investigations. > >As she was already married by 1851 then obviously she would not be listed in >the 1851 census with her parents. A lookup was done in the 1851 census for >a John COATES, Mariner in Sunderland but nothing was found. > >Any help with this line would be very much appreciated. > >Take care > >Jayne >St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada >Jayne's Digital Reflections: http://www.jadire.com >Archive CD Books: http://www.archivecdbooks.org >If you don't know your family's history, then you don't know anything. >You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:10:43 +1300 >From: <pentony@infogen.net.nz> >To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000401c39692$f42eb840$0b2538d2@net.nz> >Subject: [SUNDERLAND] subscriber >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > >Now when I tried to unsubscribe from this list, I was told not on it, now I did subscribe a few years ago and messages are still trickling through, so surely I am on it??? > >How can I unsubscribe.. I did it through the correct channels, but the message came back, not a subscriber!!! Come on.. have a message this morning from JayneCanada. who is having who on!! > >I only want to come off for a few months, as will be in UK next year for a spell...trying to track down the correct names of the people I am looking for from Sunderland connected to Ridley/Snowdon families.. which I am descended from. > >My Ridley's are from Tow House Green... John and Rachel Ridley, but somewhere along the line..Snowdon comes in.. through Philip... I cannot say more, as no information until a family member can oblige who lives in Penrith, so hope to visit her next March...My late grandmother was Florence Ridley who married Alfred Pentony.. so if these names ring bells.. I would love to hear from anyone thank you.. > >adele in lovely Clareville.NZ. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:27:21 -0400 >From: "JayneCanada" <spiregen@webcomcreations.com> >To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <01b101c39698$ae93e7f0$c47ba8c0@MAIN> >Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] subscriber >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >The problem could stem from the e-mail address you're using now being >different from the one you used to subscribe with. Even if there is one >letter different you won't be able to unsubscribe from the list using the >address you use now. > >Some ISP's do this without their customer's knowledge so you may not even be >aware of any change to your address. However, if you have had other e-mail >addresses then it's possible you used it or one of them to subscribe to this >list. > >In either situation the only person who can unsubscribe you from this list >is our List Admin who can be contacted at: > >ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > >Take care > >Jayne >St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada >Jayne's Digital Reflections: http://www.jadire.com >Archive CD Books: http://www.archivecdbooks.org >If you don't know your family's history, then you don't know anything. >You are a leaf that doesn't know it is part of a tree. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <pentony@infogen.net.nz> >To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 5:10 PM >Subject: [SUNDERLAND] subscriber > > >> Now when I tried to unsubscribe from this list, I was told not on it, now >I did subscribe a few years ago and messages are still trickling through, so >surely I am on it??? >> >> How can I unsubscribe.. I did it through the correct channels, but the >message came back, not a subscriber!!! Come on.. have a message this morning >from JayneCanada. who is having who on!! >> >> I only want to come off for a few months, as will be in UK next year for a >spell...trying to track down the correct names of the people I am looking >for from Sunderland connected to Ridley/Snowdon families.. which I am >descended from. >> >> My Ridley's are from Tow House Green... John and Rachel Ridley, but >somewhere along the line..Snowdon comes in.. through Philip... I cannot say >more, as no information until a family member can oblige who lives in >Penrith, so hope to visit her next March...My late grandmother was Florence >Ridley who married Alfred Pentony.. so if these names ring bells.. I would >love to hear from anyone thank you.. > >