Andrew - I think that your mother is referring to the church that is now called 'The United Reform Church'. Alan Vickers.

Does anyone know the name of a Scottish Church in Sidecliffe Road, Sunderland from the 1920's ? My grandmother keeps mentioning it, as a possible place for a marriage of a relation, but I cannot find what church she is talking about ? My grandparents were married at New Lodge Street, Prespertarian Church, Monkwearmouth, Sunderland. Are records for this church available anywhere. Tyne & Wear archives don't seem to have these. Cheers, Andrew

In a message dated 09/11/2003 21:46:24 GMT Standard Time, andrew.davison@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > My grandparents were married at New Lodge Street, Prespertarian Church, > Monkwearmouth, Sunderland. Are records for this church available anywhere. > Tyne &Wear archives don't seem to have these. > What records do you want? The marriage will be registered at Sunderland Register Office, from whom you can get a copy. I can find no reference to a 'New Lodge Street, Presbyterian Church' are you sure it is not North Bridge Street? Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 09/11/2003 21:46:24 GMT Standard Time, andrew.davison@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > Does anyone know the name of a Scottish Church in Sidecliffe Road, > Sunderland from the 1920's ? > As far as I am aware it was called the 'Scotch Presbyterian Church', there was also the 'New Scotch Church' on North Bridge Street, which was built in 1892 to serve the Presbyterian congregation. The United Reform Church was formed in 1972 by the Congregational Church of England & Wales, and the Presbyterian Church of England. The Presbyterian Church of Scotland is a separate denomination. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Stan, Some interesting facts about early schoolmasters. I think Thomas may have been connected with the Methodist Church, so he may have taught in Sunday School there. It may be worth my while looking at Methdist records in Tyne and Wear Archives. Many thanks for your help. Regards, Margaret.

Does anyone have knowledge of this family and their descendants? Robert Young, shipwright, married Margaret Forbes 29 October 1816 in Sunderland. The following children were baptised at the Bethel Chapel Villiers St Bishopwearmouth: Robert Young born 12.6.1820; Eleanor Young born 16.10.1822; John Forbes Young born 14.9.1825 Charles William Young born 8.11.1827. John Forbes Young was married March quarter 1849 at Stockton to one of the following: Alice Young; Mary Ann Wilson; Mary Ann Smith or Jane Harrison _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)

In a message dated 02/11/2003 22:43:08 GMT Standard Time, mgtmurdoch@clara.co.uk writes: > coal miner and school master. I am presuming that this possibly meant > teaching in a Sunday School Hi Margaret, As he was a coal miner I presume that he was teaching part time. He could have been a Sunday School Teacher as these schools provided part time schooling for working children. There were also charity schools, which provided widespread elementary schooling for the poor. The main ones were the "British and Foreign School Society" and the "National Society for the Education of the Poor", their schools became known as the "National" and "British" schools. The first teacher training colleges were established in the 1840s, so properly qualified teachers were all but impossible to obtain. Regards Stan Mapstone

Tyne and Wear Archives have the Presbyterian Baptism records 1827-1837. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 04/11/2003 12:16:14 GMT Standard Time, margaret.gardiner3@btopenworld.com writes: > Can anyone please enlighten me as to what happened to the records of St > Cuthbert's church of Monkwearmouth Shore pre 1880 St. Cuthbert's, in Hamilton Street was only consecrated in July 1880, before that it was a Presbyterian Chapel. Regards Stan Mapstone

Ann In 1891 there was a William C Rogers aged 23, Dock Labourer, living at 9 Hartley Street with his wife Ann aged 21 and their daughter Elizabeth A aged 7 months. All three born in Sunderland. Ref RG12 piece 4144 enumeration district 6 folio 2 page 3 schedule 18. Have just finished transcribing this piece for FREECEN. It will be posted to the website after it has been verified. Ian Thompson "annmackem" <annmackem@austar To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com net.com.au> cc: Subject: [SUNDERLAND] census 02/11/2003 04:41 PM My Great Grandfather was born down in the town end area,maybe in or around Silver St in 1868.Does anyone have the census from after that date that could possibly show his name and family members.He was William Charles Rogers,or could have been Charles William as he was always called Charlie. So grateful for any help. Ann Hansen (Australia) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== Genuki Sunderland pages, http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Sunderland/index.html

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

I have photocopies of the following marriage certificates if they would help anybody:- Thomas BROWELL to Ada LANCASTER,St Peters Monkwearmouth 1955 John JacksonTONKINSON to Rita HIND, St Peter's 1954 George BAKER to Florence May CALLUM St Hilda's Sunderland 1927.

My g-grandfather, Thomas COLLING was born in Houghton in 1815. He married Mary WILSON (father STEPHEN) in Bishopwearmouth Church in 1840. Their place of abode on the marriage certificate was NEW TOWN. Would this be part of Sunderland or the beginnings of Washington New Town? In 1841, they were living in Houghton. The occupation of this same Thomas COLLING was listed in the 1851 census as coal miner and school master. I am presuming that this possibly meant teaching in a Sunday School. Any ideas on where to find details of such 'school masters'? Margaret.

Ann I found the following on the internet: it looks as if he was the son of Elizabeth Rogers, born about 1845; married either Ann Cavanagh or Dorothy Thompson in 1889; and had had two children, Elizabeth and Edward, by 1901. Not sure about his wife, though. Hope this helps. Mike Mellor Wellington, NZ 1881 census at http://www.familysearch.org/ Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Elizabeth ROGERS Head W Female 36 Alnwic, Northumberland, England No Profession Sarah J. ROGERS Daur U Female 17 Sunderland, Durham, England Servant Eliza A. ROGERS Daur U Female 15 Sunderland, Durham, England Servant William C. ROGERS Son U Male 13 Sunderland, Durham, England Errand Boy Elizabeth ROGERS Daur U Female 10 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar Ada E. ROGERS Daur U Female 8 Sunderland, Durham, England Scholar Mary R. ROGERS Daur U Female 3 Sunderland, Durham, England Child ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Dwelling 3 Stafford St Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342203 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 5000 / 147 Page Number 36 From http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriages Jun 1889 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Cavanagh Ann Sunderland 10a 901 LEAITHES James Sunderland 10a 901 ROGERS William Charles Sunderland 10a 901 THOMPSON Dorothy Sunderland 10a 901 1901 census at http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/, using Get1901DataV3b: Rogers William 33 Sunderland Durham Durham Sunderland General Labourer Rogers Elizabeth 10 Sunderland Durham Durham Sunderland Rogers Edward 8 Sunderland Durham Durham Sunderland ----- Original Message ----- From: "annmackem" <annmackem@austarnet.com.au> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:41 PM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] census > My Great Grandfather was born down in the town end area,maybe in or around Silver St in 1868.Does anyone have the census from after that date that could possibly show his name and family members.He was William Charles Rogers,or could have been Charles William as he was always called Charlie. > So grateful for any help. > Ann Hansen (Australia) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > Genuki Sunderland pages, > http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Sunderland/index.html >

My Great Grandfather was born down in the town end area,maybe in or around Silver St in 1868.Does anyone have the census from after that date that could possibly show his name and family members.He was William Charles Rogers,or could have been Charles William as he was always called Charlie. So grateful for any help. Ann Hansen (Australia) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello A while ago Stan Mapstone told me that Wilfred COATES had premises in Sunderland. Unfortunately my HHD crashed and I lost the information before I could save that bit. The rest I had backed up. ( Be warned!! It shows the value of backing up info) Stan could you be good enough to repeat the info. Wlfred Coates & family Longwood Roker Park Road Roker 1901 census I went to Durham Records office to look the info up myself but it appears that the electoral rolls are kept at Sunderland as it used to be a Borough. Any other information you can give me re looking up businesses etc. would be most useful as I have not tried this route for info before and a few of my relatives had businesses. Thank you very much Tony Surtees tsurt@btinternet.com

In a message dated 02/11/2003 22:43:08 GMT Standard Time, mgtmurdoch@clara.co.uk writes: > Would this be part of > Sunderland or the beginnings of Washington New Town? In 1841, they were > living in Houghton. > No, New Town was part of Houghton le Spring, it is still marked on the modern map. It is just south of the market place to the west of the B1404, Seaham Road, which used to be called Blind Well Lane. You can use the Ordnance Survey Gazetteer at <A HREF="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/freefun/didyouknow/"> http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/freefun/didyouknow/</A> Search for New Town and you will find it is now listed under Sunderland, click on the name and you will get a map which is just to the west of the exact location. You are about 120 years to soon for Washington New Town! Regards Stan Mapstone

Looking for information about the following 1. Thomas Armstrong married Mary Laws in 1819 in Penshaw, Sunderland 1,1 Ralph Armstrong born 1829 in Penshaw, Sunderland 1.2 Robert Armstrong born 1820 in Penshaw, Sunderland 1.3 Ann Armstrong born 1822 in Penshaw, Sunderland 1.1 Ralph Armstrong married Jane Graham 1.1.1 Thomas Armstrong born 1849 in Thornley, Easington married Isabella Errington in 1870 Comforth, Stockton Their Children Ralph Armstrong 1871 Durham William Armstrong 1873 Thrislington, Durham Jane A. Armstrong 1876 Sedgefield, Durham Thomas Armstrong 1880 Sedgefield, Durham Esther Hannah Armstrong 1884 Trimdon Collery, Stockton Charles Edward Armstrong 1894 John Armstrong 1890 Any information or links appreciated. Andrew & Fiona Davison

Hello George, Thanks very much for the. look up, this is my John HUNTER he had lived in Flag Lane all his life, he died sometime between the 1891 census and the 1901. If you have access to the 1891 census could you do me a big favour and look for his Grandson John William HUNTER who has avoided me in the 1891 census for years.The details are as follows: John William HUNTER Age 25/26 Elizabeth HUNTER Age 24/25 Mary Elizabeth HUNTER Age 5 J? HUNTER Age 3 Any light you can shed on John William would be greatly appreciated. Regards Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <margaret.gardiner3@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Sunderland Local Studies > Hi Ian > The 1891 census at 8-9 Flag Lane shows > John Hunter head 81 mast-maker born Sunderland > Elizabeth Hunter wife 76 born Sunderland > John Hunter son in law 42 shipwright born Sunderland > Elizabeth Hunter grand-daughter 19 born Sunderland > Elizabeth Hunter daughter age ? dom. servant born Sunderland > William Hunter grand son 16 app shipwright born Sunderland > Margaret Hunter grand daughter 14 born Sunderland > Harry Hunter grand son 5 born Sunderland > Frederick Hunter grand son 3 born Sunderland > Emily Hunter grand daughter 8 months born Sunderland > > Hope this helps > George > Sunderland >

Hello List, I am looking for a favour, if anyone is going to the local studies is Sunderland could they possibly look in the Electoral registers between 1892-1896 for 8 Flag Lane. The gentleman in question is John HUNTER ( There could be 2 of them). I have been trying to find out when he died but have been unable to tie up his age with the ones in St Cathrines Index.Hopefully I can tie up his departure from Flag Lane to his year of death. Is anyone researching Hercules Hunter and his wife Elizabeth in Monkwearmouth?. I have a copy of her death certificate which is not connected to my HUNTER family. Regards Ian Ridley Coventry