Malcolm Thanks to a number of folks on the list, I found St Lukes Road where my grandfather lived in 1901 (he was 8), and it is right next to Pallion Rd., so it might be the same Alf. Did your Alf have a brother Cuthbert? Did he ever mention George Paxton who lived in Glasgow, who was his best friend? Was your Alf in the merchant navy? edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

The ONS (GRO) do not have the original Marriage Registers, what they have are certified copies of the Registers held by the local Registrar. Some local Registrars do provide photocopies of the original registers, and I have several from the Sunderland Registrar which do have the original handwriting of the participants. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello John, You do not say where the marriage took place or where you obtained the copies of the certificates from. According to a book I have, few marriage entries at the General Register Office contain original signatures of brides, grooms and witnesses. You should therefore approach the superintendent registrar or the minister of the church or chapel where the marriage took place to see whether he will consult the records for you. Many Anglican registers have been microfilmed, in which case the signatures are easy to check yourself. Hope this helps! Heidi

I have trawled my 1890's maps, but can't find it, nor is it on Streetmap. Is there someone who could possibly help? It's where my family were living in 1901. TIA edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Best of the New Year to everyone. I'm hoping the Brains Trust on this list may be able to steer me in the right direction, if there is one that is. I have g-g-grandfather, Robert William Crickmore (also know as William Robert in his earlier years) who was born in Suffolk but moved to Sunderland as a young man. He married a local girl Christen Stuart in 1862. They had several children. In the 1871 census Christen is home with the children, but no Robert William. In the 1881 census, she is at home, with the kids, but under a different surname (I was able to find them through one of the girl's names, Lena, which isn't that common) Robert William worked his way up to Master Mariner and got around a bit, being the Master of the Mary Ann Annison and the Mary Ann Jamison. We have the Lloyds information on that, and there weren't any other Robert William Crickmore's who were Masters. On some of his trips he came to Sydney, in the 1870's. In November 1879 a Robert William Crickmore married Mary Smith, in the then Colony of Victoria. According to the copy of the marriage registry book he was from Sunderland. There is also the registration of the birth of a daughter to Robert William and Mary in January 1881. I've matched the signature of Robert William Crickmore of the Mary Ann Annison & Mary Ann Jamison, on the copies of the Crew & Passenger Listings, with the signature of Robert William Crickmore in the marriage registry, so I know they are the same person. The trick is linking him back to the Robert William Crickmore, married to Christen Stuart in Sunderland. We're 99% sure it's the same person but we looking for the actual evidence to prove it. After looking through the copies of the marriage certificates for Robert William and his brother Henry, where he was a witness, I now realise that the names of the groom, bride & witnesses are written in by someone else (the local Registrar?) I was hoping that they were the same as the early Victorian registry entries where the people sign the book, so I could match the signatures with the one on the Crew & Passenger Listings and the Victorian Registry book. My question is, is there any record that is accessible today by any means that has the parties to a wedding signatures, or perhaps other documents that might have a person's signature? Many Thanks in Advance John Crickmore Canberra, Australia

Hello, Dorothy ARTER was born on 3 March 1932 in Durham but her birth does not appear on the GRO indexes. Her mother was a RAINE but no ARTER/RAINE marriage appears in the indexes either before of after 1932, or any other ARTER children with RAINE for the mother. Has anyone ideas as to how I can find her fathers forename? Bert Arter, Stibbard, Norfolk, England Researching ARTER, BONE, GAGE, LANGLEY, WIDOWSON and many others

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

All the best for 2004 everyone. Sadly neglected my researches of late. One of my New Years resolutions is to make more effort. Principal Names I’m researching are:- REVELL – Sunderland THOMPSON – Sunderland COLLIE – Sunderland ROY GARBUTT – Lincs Other names related:- Anderson Baker Dixon Liddle Lowden Martin McClusdale Metcalf Potts Rodgers Trueman Turner Weaver Ben http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ben.revell1/Revell.htm

Hi Edward and list, Re BELL, I had a gt'uncle named Alf BELL, his wife's was Ethal (nee HOME) (my side) and they lived on Pallion Rd, Sunderland, they would have been born in the late 1800's. I wonder if this is the same person or was/is BELL a popular name like mine? Unfortunately I have no other info., So, would be grateful if you or anyone can assist. Thanks Regards, Malcolm Campbell, London, Ontario, Canada > > I have recently been given my grandfather's photos, and in these are a number > of his great friend Alf BELL and his family including his brother Cuthbert > and his mother, > edward > Limpsfield, Surrey

Hi Sorry to post this to the board but I had a reply to my posting from Joan Williamson re BOOTH unfortunately, my reply to her email address has been returned. Joan, would be grateful if you could contact me again. Sue Sunderland

Does anyone know if this is complete at Ancestry.com, I can't match certain entries with BMD Regards Jim Winn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/2003

In a message dated 04/01/2004 11:46:34 GMT Standard Time, jim_lynda@winn7.fsnet.co.uk writes: > Does anyone know if this is complete at Ancestry.com, I can't match certain > entries with BMD > I thought the 1881 Census was on the LDS site http://www.familysearch.org/ Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi All Happy New Year to you all. Whilst it is quiet thought it may be a good idea to repost my surname interests. Would welcome contact from anyone interested in the same. POLLEY, RICHARDS, BOOTH, OLD, CALVERT, HUNTER, CARTLEDGE, COCKERILL, GANLEY, FLAHERTY, BAINBRIDGE, FINNEGAN, HALL, ROWE, BRANTON, LINCOLN. Sue Sunderland

Hi, I would like to hear from anyone with connections to the TALBOT families of South Hylton. Other connected surnames are:- CAMPBELL/ DIXON/ HULLA(H) / PATTISON/ STOTHARD/ TATE/ USHER/ WALTON Heidi

Hello All! I am interested in any information regarding the above manufacturers. I believe that Thomas USHER born 1850 (one of my ancestors) may be the same Thomas USHER of REAY & USHER, according to CHRISTIE's Directory 1871/2, Thomas resided at Ford Villa, South Hylton and was an Ironmaster in WARD'S Directory of 1877 Thomas resided at Hylton Forge and he is listed under REAY & USHER Iron Manufacturers. According to the Return of Owners of Land 1873, Thomas USHER of South Hylton, owned 2 acres with an estimated Rental of £165 15s. If someone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful. Heidi

Hi Everybody! I am new to this list. I will be posting my interests and queries shortly, however, I wanted you all to know that I have extracted Names and Addresses of Photographers in Sunderland Trade Directories from 1853 to 1900 should anyone be interested and I am happy to do look-ups. Heidi

Dear All I wonder if someone can please help with & look up the 1871 census for Durham on the following: Eleanor Robson age 38 ( widow) Born Sunderland Douglas Robson age 10 son born Sunderland Eleanor Jane Robson age 8 Daughter born Hartlepool John Robson age 6 son born Hartlepool William Pratt Robson age 1 son born Hartlepool. I know this family lived in Hartlepool up to Aug 1870 as the last child William was born & Baptised there, but I cant find this family living in Hartlepool on 1871 Census, also the daughter Eleanor Jane Robson died in Sunderland in 1872 age 9, I looked at the Sunderland Census for 1871 but no luck. Maybe someone can help. Regards Allan Robson

I have recently been given my grandfather's photos, and in these are a number of his great friend Alf BELL and his family including his brother Cuthbert and his mother, with possibly some other members of their family. I'm trying to separate out Alf's family from my own, as there are a number of photos of both of the families together, and I just wondered whether anyone on the list is searching for this family. I'd happily pass on a CD of any pics of interest to a family member. edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Hi Happy New Year to you all. On the marriage certificate for my gg grandparents, Ann Hall and Ralph Thompson who were married at Deptford Sunderland in 1870, it shows two addresses 10 Trimdon Street 20 Queen Street May I ask if anyone has the 1871 census would it be possible for them to see who was living at these addresses in 1871. Thank you Regards Kathryn _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Does anyone have information on William Hall and his wife Mary Walton? The 1881 British census shows William Hall as a widower, a master butcher, born about 1827 in Sunderland, and living at 36 South Street, Crossgate, in Durham, England, in 1881. His wife, Mary Walton of Weardale, had a brother William Walton, who emigrated to Illinois in the 1850s. William Walton's obituary lists his place of birth as Stanhope. Mary and William Hall had 4 children, all born in Sunderland: my grandfather William John Hall (born 1854), Joseph Walton Hall, Edwin Hall, and Clara Ann. Clara married William Thornton and lived at 36 South Street, Durham; all three brothers moved to the United States. With all the recent Hall inquiries, I thought I should add my questions to the list. Any help you can send would be appreciated. Thanks. M. A. Linden