Just today I found my Savage family in Sunderland: James and Annie (Cooper) Savage married in 1890 in Milngavie, Scotland Elizabeth Catherine (my Grandmother) James Alice Andrew All the above born in Scotland Annie born in Sunderland in 1901 (she was less than a month old at the time of the 1901 census) He worked as a Foreman dock fitter. The family eventually (within a few years) went to Simonstown, South Africa with Sir John Jackson, Ltd. where James worked the same job with the dry dock project there. My question is does anyone know what companies where in Sunderland that used dock fitters? Did Sir John Jackson have an office there? ( I know he had one in London). Also did sailing ships, maybe mail ships, leave Sunderland to South Africa? I am still trying to find passenger lists for the family. Thanks so much, Karen Glendora, CA

Hi All Can anyone enlighten me as to when the following first started trading in Sunderland and who the founders where. Kennedy i believe started in High St East a furniture store Share Brothers as above Whitakers a fruiters in Villet Rd. Any information thankfully received Regards Allan 29/02/04 12:32pm

In a message dated 29/02/2004 13:02:43 GMT Standard Time, emmo@emmerson1772.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Kennedy i believe started in High St East a furniture store > Share Brothers as above > Whitakers a fruiters in Villet Rd. > Hi Allan, according to the 1902 Kelly's Directory; John Whittaker, Greengrocer, was at 259, High Street: 23 North Bridge Street: 53 Hendon Road: 23 General Gordon Terrace. John Alex Kennedy was at 42-43-44-45 High Street West. By 1914 he also had 46 & 47. The building was the Cobden Exchange, which was burnt down in 1904 and rebuilt. It stood next to the Rose & Crown which was on the corner of Gill Bridge Avenue. Both Buildings were demolished to make way for the inner ring road. Andrew Share was at 2 Suffolk Street. I could find none of them in the 1894 Directory. I hope this helps. Regards Stan Mapstone

hello everyone can anyone tell me for certain if nelson street was demolished, or was it renamed kipling street? i made this enquiry at the civic centre, to be told there was a £20 research fee ! and heres me thinking that my council tax covered this type of thing cheers andrew

Hello Ruth, Are you just looking for RIDLEY in general or are you looking for a specific family?, either way I may be able to help you. regards Ian Ridley Coventry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth" <reridley10@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:12 AM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Re: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest V04 #49 > Hi, I am researching the Ridley name in Sunderland especially around the > 1880 and after > Thanks > Ruth Ridley > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:03 PM > Subject: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest V04 #49 >

In a message dated 28/02/2004 20:17:37 GMT Standard Time, andrew.mccletchie@virgin.net writes: > can anyone tell me for certain if nelson street was demolished, or was it > renamed kipling street? > If you use this site Maps various dates http://www.tomorrows-history.com/ you can view the Ordnance Survey Maps of Southwick for the years; 1856-1865 1894-1899 1919-1926 1938-1950 1951-1959 1960-1969 1970-1979 1980-1994 You can zoom in to quite a large magnification and compare two maps. Nelson Street appears on the 1960-1969 map and Kipling Street on the 1970-1979 map. It looks as though Nelson Street was demolished and Kipling Street built in its place. Regards Stan Mapstone

Please could anyone tell me which Church (or chapel) Parish registers I should look in for Christenings/baptisms and marriages in the area of Tatham Street and Murton Street, Bishopwearmouth for the period 1890 to 1920. I do not know the parishes into which these addresses fell. With thanks Lesley ------------------------------------------------- Email: Lesley@forrest1.demon.co.uk Fax: UK: 08700 517479 International: +448700517479 -------------------------------------------------

Hiya folks If anyone is interested I have compiled some surname indexes for the above area's, originally to help me in my own research. If anyone thinks they may be able to make use of them then let me know and I shall forward them (off list) but they will be as an attachment. the index shows surname only, place, enumeration district number, piece, folio and page. please reply off list, and could you put '1861 census' as the subject line please. happy hunting Diane R Sunderland UK ps. this index is all my own work

Hi Lee, Do you have John Kirby born Burdon 1822 wife Elizabeth born Whitburn 1838. Children Alfred,Thomas, Frances, William, Elizabeth, George. I dont know where Sarah is but at a good guess I would say she was his first wife and died young because the first child of John and Elizabeth was born in 1862 when he was forty. I also found a Mark Kirby born in Burdon in1831 if that is any help. Regards Dawn

Hi, I am researching the Ridley name in Sunderland especially around the 1880 and after Thanks Ruth Ridley Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest V04 #49

----- Original Message ----- From: hendersonfamily To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:47 AM Subject: Fw: Re 1851 Census for kirby ----- Original Message ----- From: hendersonfamily To: eng-dur-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: Re 1851 Census for kirby Hello all, Iam hoping some kind person could see this email, iam hoping anyone has access to the 1851 census as one of the person(s) listed on it died in 1860. So iam hoping to equire the full family, they lived in whitburn the father of the family : John Kirby (Was a Shoemaker he was born in Burdon) his wife was Sarah, i think they were living at the Post house or the post office house. I would be most gratefull whatever assistance anyone could supply. Lee Henderson

Hi Stan and Val, I also subscribe to the Clwyd list (among others) and there have numerous reports that any messages associated with Rootsweb are being 'bounced' by AOL, presumably in an attempt to avoid spam etc. This happens regularly and when someone at Rootsweb contacts AOL to explain that Rootsweb in not involved with spam, messages are allowed through . . . until the next time. Maybe a similar thing is happening with you Val; like Stan I have no recollection of your postings. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stanmapstone@aol.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] hello > In a message dated 25/02/2004 11:55:49 GMT Standard Time, Valburdon@aol.com > writes: > > > Hi, can you tell me why no-one has replied to my queries, am I not doing > > something right??? Please advise. > > > > When did you post your queries? I have looked at the ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L > archives and can see none by you. > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > Genuki Sunderland pages, > http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Sunderland/index.html > >

The archives for this list can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND/ Where you can check to see if your messages have been received. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Liz Re McLeod family this may gel up with your research its not much but here goes. In the 1891 census checks on my family the Allan's this turned up, Mary Jane McLeod Aged 16 Gr Daughter working as a servant, and living at 14 Eden Street Bishopwearmouth Sunderland, now in my family there was two girls Elizabeth Allan Aged 25 Margaret Allan Aged 20 so it does not seem likely ether would be the Mother of Mary, maybe you have some other info, anyway at least you my be able to write one family from your list. Regards Allan 25/02/04 15:41pm

Hi, Thanks to Stan & Susan for their assistance re the location of low quay. Susan, I was not able to use the URL you sent, I use Netscape (my preference) and some URL's are not useable, "Multimap" is one of them, so, I use "Streetmap". Thanks again. Regards, Malcolm (Campbell)

In a message dated 25/02/2004 11:55:49 GMT Standard Time, Valburdon@aol.com writes: > Hi, can you tell me why no-one has replied to my queries, am I not doing > something right??? Please advise. > When did you post your queries? I have looked at the ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L archives and can see none by you. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi, can you tell me why no-one has replied to my queries, am I not doing something right??? Please advise. Regards, V Burdon

I would love to know if anyone can help me with information about the McLeod and Fulton families of Monkwearmouth, Bishopwearmouth, Durham City, Sunderland, and that general area. I live in Australia, but used to live in Bootle, Merseyside. I have, with the help of others, traced my family back to my great great grandfather, Stephen McLeod, B C1796) paper maker, who appears to have lived in Bishopwearmouth. He was deceased when his son George Reuben (B1833) was married in September, 1862 to Elizeabeth (correct spelling) Fulton(B18. also of Bishopwearmouth. Her father was Joseph Fulton, a joiner. Any information which would help me get even further back into the history of my ancesters or help me to find other descendants who may still live in the area would be very much appreciated. Regards, Liz Coulthard

I am looking for info on the following family that lived in Bishopwearmouth in the 1850' Onwards John Robson (Joiner) born Corbridge 1805 Eleanor Robson(nee Urwin) wife born Byker 1809, children as below. Robert Robson born Cramlington 1828 Jane born Walker 1829 Mary Ann born Norton, Co Durham 1832 Elizabeth born Norton, Co Durham 1833 Douglas born Newcastle 1835 John Born ? 1839/40 Margaret born Hetton 1841 Armstrong born Hetton 1843, Douglas, John & Armstrong were all Seaman in the Merchant Service. If anyone has any of the above in there family, Please let me know. Regards Allan Robson

In a message dated 23/02/2004 00:23:52 GMT Standard Time, okfrooms@shaw.ca writes: > would really appreciate being able to pin point the whereabouts of this > address on the map. > East Street ran from Hat Case to Barrack Street parallel to Warren Street. It seems to have been renamed Stafford Street on the 1896 Ordnance Survey map. Regards Stan Mapstone