In a message dated 26/03/2004 06:03:22 GMT Standard Time, pstone8@msn.com writes: parish register of Holy Trinity, Sunderland. If she was from Tunstall Hill, would this be the best parish to try, or should I try another? Her marriage in 1851 is in the GRO records, so it seems likely she'd be Church of England. Hi Patrick, Tunstall was a Township in the parish of Bishopwearmouth, so the parish church was St. Michael and All Angels. Civil Registration has nothing to do with religion, every marriage of whatever religion, as well as civil marriages, had to be registered. The township of Tunstall was only 808 acres and the population in 1821 was only 64, and in 1831 was only 75, but by 1901 it was 5,400 due to the development of New Silksworth, part of which was in Tunstall. If you go to _http://www.tomorrows-history.com/_ (http://www.tomorrows-history.com/) you can view maps of the area for various dates. There were at least two farms including Tunstall Hills Farm and Elstob House. Tunstall is mentioned in the Boldon Book of 1183, the name means simply 'the farmstead'. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello, everyone -- I'm looking for the birth or baptism record of one Jane Dagg, born in 1827. Per her marriage record, she was the daughter of George Dagg; per a Monkwearmouth marriage record, her mother may have been called Jane Tate. In later records, Jane Dagg gave her place of birth as Sunderland, Tunstall, and Tunstall Hill. It seems the best move would be to write to the Durham County Record Office and ask them to look through the parish register of Holy Trinity, Sunderland. If she was from Tunstall Hill, would this be the best parish to try, or should I try another? Her marriage in 1851 is in the GRO records, so it seems likely she'd be Church of England. I wonder if some of you might be able to tell me more about the area -- how large it is, where it is exactly, what it's like. I see there's a Tunstall Road in the southwestern part of the city center, and there seems to be a Tunstall-ish area bounded on the northeast by Queen Alexandra Road, northwest by Tunstall Road, southwest by Leechmeere, and southeast by Helvellyn Road. Is this the right region? Also, what might be my chances of finding Jane in Sunderland in the 1841 census? Many thanks in advance for your wisdom! Patrick S. Philadelphia, Pa., USA

Hi Sue I have Hodgsons in my family tree, My ancestor is Hannah Hodgson, and it looks like William Hodgson is her younger brother. Mathew Hodgson married Margaret Lawson 25 November 1797 Hannah Hodgson birth 16 November 1798 chr 20 November 1798 Easington Susannah Hodgson born 27 September 1801 chr 2 October 1801 Easington Margaret Hodgson birth 28 Aug 1804 chr 14 Oct 1804 Easington Mary Hodgson birth 24 December 1807 chr 1 May 1808 Easington William Hodgson birth 18 February 1811 chr 16 June 1811 Easington Regards Kathryn >X-Message: #3 >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:25:29 -0000 >From: "Sue Veillard" <sueveillard@cwgsy.net> >To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <007b01c41253$7f3d5d10$1901a8c0@BRIAN> >Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Hodgson, Maling, Turnbull, Heaton, Lawson >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi >Am new to the list and posting my interests. > >William HODGSON 1811 - 1898 House Builder born Easington, died >Bishopwearmouth married >Mary HEATON 1807 - 1837 born and died in Bishopwearmouth > >Edward Haygarth MALING 1805 -1880 Surgeon born Bishopwearmouth, died >Sunderland married as his second wife >Sophia BAXTER nee DUNSTAN of Cheshire widow of Robert Houghton BAXTER >Rector of Seaham. > >George Heaton HODGSON 1836 - 1907 Builder (son of William Hodgson above) >born and died in Sunderland married >Jane Robson TURNBULL 1836 - 1916 daughter of John Turnbull, Farmer of >Alwinton, Northumberland. > >Matthew HODGSON 1767 - 1855 Farmer (father of William Hodgson above) born >Castle Eden, Durham died Sunderland married >Margaret LAWSON 1773 - 1842 born and died in Sunderland > >I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests or who has >knowledge of any of the above people. > >Kind regards >Sue Veillard >Guernsey _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

In an LDs film I saw yesterday there is a Roll of Church Members of the Dundas St Independent. Unfortunately,the page I'm interested in doesn't indicate what dates they are referrring to but I found this man: Mr Robert Young shipwright Weir St - removed to Middlesex (that is what it looks like). I' m making a stab at the date (from preceding and following pages) that this could be the 1830s. I was hoping someone might have easy access to Directories around that time and could look up Robert Young shipwright for me. I would be most grateful. Geraldine Walsh in Sydney. _________________________________________________________________ Personalise your mobile chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ringtones.com.au/ninemsn/control?page=/ninemsn/main.jsp

Hi Am new to the list and posting my interests. William HODGSON 1811 - 1898 House Builder born Easington, died Bishopwearmouth married Mary HEATON 1807 - 1837 born and died in Bishopwearmouth Edward Haygarth MALING 1805 -1880 Surgeon born Bishopwearmouth, died Sunderland married as his second wife Sophia BAXTER nee DUNSTAN of Cheshire widow of Robert Houghton BAXTER Rector of Seaham. George Heaton HODGSON 1836 - 1907 Builder (son of William Hodgson above) born and died in Sunderland married Jane Robson TURNBULL 1836 - 1916 daughter of John Turnbull, Farmer of Alwinton, Northumberland. Matthew HODGSON 1767 - 1855 Farmer (father of William Hodgson above) born Castle Eden, Durham died Sunderland married Margaret LAWSON 1773 - 1842 born and died in Sunderland I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests or who has knowledge of any of the above people. Kind regards Sue Veillard Guernsey

Hi Geraldine, It should be Wear Street. You can search directories on line at Digital Library of Historical Directories _http://www.historicaldirectories.org/_ (http://www.historicaldirectories.org/) but Robert Young will not be listed unless he had his own business, ordinary householders are not listed. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Maxine Sunderland Road, Southwick appears on the 1891 census without any numbers. The reference is RG12/4147 Folios 21-22. Unfortunately, there weren't any Butlers or Smiles in the 8 houses shown as Sunderland Road, Southwick. Do you have any first names and ages to go with the surnames? Regards Alison

hello everyone. I am new to the list and my surname interests are BUTLER and SMILES both families were in the area of Southwick. I have information from the 1901 census and from birth certificates identifying that houses No 1 and No 6 Sunderland Road, Southwick were occupied by these families. I am hoping sks may have access to the 1891 census and would be willing to do a look-up at the addresses above. Thankyou regards Maxine Gardner --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.637 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 20/03/2004

as of this date - new e-mail address is - jlsimms@shaw.ca reason for change - TOO MUCH SPAM!!

Hi, Would some SKS be able to do a llokup for me in Church records for Wilfred Southern possibly born in 1917. (According to WW2 Records) Family suggests he was born in 1919 as Collings. I have found a Wilfred Collings born in st Catherines Index in 1919, but no 1919, Collings or Southern which might be appropriate. I dont know of any church records that I can look at from here. Any help greatly received Thanks Ruth Canberra, Australia

My Maternal grandmother was a member of a Temperance Union-I have her mediallion-this would be in the late 1800s-early 1900s. Genealogy research found the explanation for reasons I came from a Tee-Total family! Re your Norwegian connection-keep digging!-It took me 7 years to 'prove' a family story re a name change because someone ran away from home to be a jockey and changed his name! Betty.

Hello all. One of the stories my wifes paternal grandmother told was of a connection to Norway by way of a marriage. Nothing in my research until recently had revealed any such thing.I am back to the late 1700's. Then yesterday i had a stroke of luck on FreeBMD .One of grandma's sisters born 1879 in Sunderland who i had previosly found in 1881 and 1901 was on their list.Instead of just Fanny W Swain it had her full title of Fanny Wigdahl Swain. Now is this the hint of a connection? Some research has suggested that the name is at least of Scandinavian origin. So here is the family verbal history. Some one in the family either of COWLEY or SWAIN parentage,possibly, and a male some how got "ensnared" by the daughter of a Norwegian "priest " who was engaged within the temperance movement. The father ,allegedly came over with the Norwegian fishing fleets fishing fleets. We had always thought that the name Swain might have come from Swainson or Svenson but that does not appear to be true. Fanny's sister,grandma, was called Mary Cowley Swain so some evidence of previous family names used as christian names. Father to the girls is a Brady Swain and mother Jemima nee Cowley. I have found her father George an Iron Founder on the 1881 census and also his marriage on FreeBMD. He seems to have married a Mary Turnbull in 1846. Can anyone shed any light on any of the above ? Does any one have any knowledge of when the temperance movement was in full swing? Any one any connection to the above? Loads of questions ,hope to get some answers!!! Colin Notman

Hello all. Just discovered a possible tie in between a Samuel Tudur ROBERTS and an Elizabeth Alice GLEGHORN . Marriage in the September quarter 1898 in Sunderland. Anyone have an interest in this couple,if i've got it right. My interest is in the Roberts family and any connections to them. Colin Notman

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Hi this is my Husband Family Tree Most of them were born in Newcastle, Sunderland, Sheffield, South Sheilds, Gateshead and even Scotland I hope that someone might recognised some of the names below At the top of the Tree there is a James or a John Cotrel he was born round about 1784 in England he married a Ann ?. they had 1 Son called Joseph Cotral 1) Joseph Cotral was born on the 16/06/1814 in Sheffield, England, Joseph Cotral married a Catherine Dickinson on the 11/12/1836 in Sunderland, England, Joseph Cottrill died on the 03/10/1889 in Scotland Catherine Dickinson was born on the 01/07/1816 in Sunderland, England, Catherine Cottrill nee: Dickinson died on the 01/07/1890 in Wishaw, Scotland. they had 8 Children, 1A) Mary Anne Cotrell was born on the 04/12/1837 in Sunderland, County Durham, England, Mary Anne Cotrell married a Edward Harper on the 29/10/1855 in Bothwell, Scotland, 2A) Catherine Cotterill was born in 29/11/1843 in Sunderland, County Durham Catherine Cotterill married a Peter Darey on the 19/06/1871 at Wishaw, Scotland, 3A) Jean Cotrell was born in 1849 in Bothwell, Scotland, Jean Cotrell married a Walter Anderson on the 28/05/1869 in Bothwell, Scotland, 4A) Joseph Cotterell was born in 1852 in Bothwell, Scotland Joseph Cotterell married a Isabella Campbell Borthwick on the 23/08/1870 in Gateshead, England, Joseph Cotterell died on the 04/06/1898 at Gateshead, Isabella Campbell Borthwick was born on the 13/03/1854 in Deptford, England, Isabella Campbell Cotterell nee: Borthwick died on the 13/09/1906 in England, 5A) Edward Cotterill married a Jessica Flett on the 04/08/1880 in Gateshead, England, Jessica Cotterill nee: Flett died. Edward Cotterill then remarried to a Isabella Lindsey on the 25/02/1885 in Gateshead, England, 6A) Henry Cotterill married a Jessie Johnson on the 16/08/1880 in Gateshead, England, Jessie Cotterill nee:Johnson died Henry Cotterill then remarried a Alice Jackson on the 08/09/1895 in Gateshead, England, 7A)Thomas Cotrell was born in 28/06/1860 in Bothwell, Scotland, Thomas Cotrell died on the 04/08/1860 in Scotland, 8A) John Coteral was born on the 25/07/1840 in Sunderland, England, John Coteral married a Mary McBride on the 23/12/1864 in Bothwell, Scotland, John Coteral died on the 27/06/1908 in Gateshead, England Mary Coteral nee: McBride died on the 19/12/1903 in Newcastle, England, they had 1 Son called Joseph Cotrell 1B) Joseph Cotrell who was born on the 29/10/1865 in England, Joseph Cotrell married a Matilda Ann Hoddinott on the 24/06/1890 in South Sheilds, England, Joseph Cotrell died on the 07/02/1948 in England Matilda Ann Hoddinott was born on the 14/05/1866 in Newcastle, England, Matilda Ann Cotrell nee: Hoddinott died on the 07/07/1920 in England, they had 9 Children, 1C) Elisa Cotrell, 2C) Mary Cotrell was born on the 07/09/1890 in Gateshead, England 3C) Joseph Cotrell was born on the 19/03/1892 in Gateshead, England, Joseph Cotrell married Eleanor May Pearson on the 27/04/1918 in Gateshead, England, Joseph Cotrell died on the 10/01/1988 in Gateshead, England Eleanor May Pearson was born on the 24/05/1895 in Gateshead, England, Eleanor May Cotrell nee: Pearson died on the 18/07/1970 in Gateshead, England, 4C) John Cotrell was born on the 23/03/1894 in Gateshead, England John Cotrell married a Dorothy Cowe Brotherton on the 22/06/1929 in Gateshead, England, 5C) Thomas William Cotrell was born on the 10/06/1897 in Gateshead, England, Thomas William Cotrell married Lilly and then remarried Gladys Edith Greenwell on the 23/06/1928 in Gateshead, England, Thomas William Cotrell died in 1980 Gladys Edith Cotrell nee: Greenwell died on the 21/06/1972 in Gateshead, England, 6C) Robert Cotrell was born in 1900 in Newcastle, England, Robert Cotrell married Laura Johnson on the 01/07/1928 in England, 7C) Matilda Ann Cotrell was born on the 10/09/1902 in Gateshead, England Matilda Ann Cotrell married Sydney Ernest Smith on the 17/09/1927 in England, Matilda Ann Smith nee: Cotrell died in 1959 8C) Jane Cotrell was born in 1904, Jane Cotrell died on the 24/12/1905 in Newcastle, England, 9C) Frederick Cotrell was born on the 15/07/1908 in Gateshead, England, Frederick Cotrell married a Elsie Emery in England, Frederick Cotrell died on the 16/12/1984 in Gateshead, England, Elsie Emery was born on the 06/08/1910 in Sunderland, England. As you noticed the Cotrell Surname was spelt differently going down the tree, COTRAL COTERAL COTTERRILL COTTERELL, COTTRELL COTTRILL COTRELL and so on. If anyone can help with my Husband Cotrell Family Tree or with any of their Wife's, please contact me, I would like to hear from you. Gina

I found this interesting entry for Sunderland on the Vision of Britain Through Time site http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/index.php Sunderland LA is in the North East region, with a 2001 population of 280,807. Two hundred years ago in 1801; it contained 29,704 people which rose to 81,246 in 1851 and 261,924 in 1911. Today, 15.59% of the population is over 65 and 25.47% under 20, but in 1851 these percentages were 4.05% and 46.50%. Today, the service industry is the largest sector of the local economy, employing 69.23% workers, while in 1841 25.64% worked in manufacturing. In 1931 Male unemployment was 29.2%, 22.7% in 1991 and 10.4% in 2001 Today, 49% of women work outside the home, or want to, but in 1931 only 23.8% did. In 1931, 8.5% of male workers had middle class jobs -- now 36.2% do. In 1951, 24.06% of households lacked their own toilet. By 2001 this had dropped to under 0.23%. 97.22% of households had central heating, a bath/shower and a toilet. Roughly 53.7% of children aged 5 to 14 went to school in 1851 (52.6% nationally). Today, 69% of 16 and 17 year olds stay on at school (76.9% nationally). Today, 9.6% of people claim no religion, 81.48% describe themselves as Christian. In 1851, the census asked how many of each kind of Christian went to church: 35.60% were other religions Regards Stan Mapstone

For those not familiar with the various administrative units of Britain, there is a dictionary at http://tiger.iso.port.ac.uk:7778/pls/nfp/prog.au_ft.dictionary Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Folks, Dont know why, but I was unable to open the attachment on this messageor on the previous one, VO4#60. I have been able to open and read all others received before then. Is there anything wrong at your end? Liz Coulthard ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest V04 #61

In a message dated 16/03/2004 08:23:17 GMT Standard Time, lizken@hotkey.net.au writes: > Don't know why, but I was unable to open the attachment on this message or > on the previous one, VO4#60. Not sure what you mean, but you can't send attachments to Rootsweb Mailing Lists. If you want to see the messages why not look in the archives at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND.html Regards Stan Mapstone

Re message below. The heading of the attachment was Number of children..a wearside record, but I was unable to open the attachment. Can you please try sending it again - Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-D Digest V04 #60