-----Original Message----- From: AvrilSteward@aol.com [mailto:AvrilSteward@aol.com] Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Re Branton What about Frederick Branton aged 31 a carpenter born Sunderland and his wife Ellen Branton ( nee Garnett?) aged 28 born 28 Kindel Street,London, Middlesex living at 11 Drury lane Square ,Sunderland on the 1881 census with them was 13 year old Joseph Garnett brother in law born 32 Board Street, London Middlesex ? Hi Avril Yes I have them but again they do not appear on the 1891 census. A friend even did a search on Ancestry but to no avail. Regards Sue

Hi All Hope you are all enjoying the Easter break. Thought it was about time I re-posted my interest in the above surname. Unfortunately, I seem to be hitting this very large brick wall with this line of my tree. Frederick Thomas BRANTON born c1881 married Mary Isabella LINCOLN 10/09/1899 in Sunderland Harold/Harry BRANTON born c1884 - 1901 census was residing at 17 Spring Garden Lane as a Lodger in the household of Harry COUNDON. Harry was aged 17 and occupation shown as Paperboy Thomas BRANTON born c1887 - 1901 census was residing at 17 Spring Garden Lane as a Lodger in the household of Harry COUNDON. Thomas was aged 14 no occupation. Thomas lost his life in 12/09/1918 whilst on active service in Belgium. Age at death is shown as 36 making him born 1882 I have a copy of Frederick & Mary's marriage certificate, grooms father is shown as Frederick BRANTON deceased and occupation stated was Farmer. To date I have not been able to locate the brother's parents on the 1891 Census. Although I did find a likely candidate for Frederick living with his aunt & uncle in Queen Street, Sunderland but no sign of either of the other 2 brothers. I have spent sometime on 1837 online without sighting any births of the brothers in Sunderland even though family lore & 1901 Census states all were born in Sunderland. Would welcome contact from anyone with an interest in the BRANTON name. Regards Sue Sunderland Researching: POLLEY, OLD, CARTLEDGE, CALVERT, TAYLOR, NEASHAM, AYRE, PESTELL, BRANTON, LINCOLN, GANLEY, FLAHERTY, BAINBRIDGE, DELVOY, BLANCHFLOWER, BOOTH, EMBLING, CARR, FINNEGAN, HALL, HUNTER, KELLY, RICHARDS, BLAKELOCK, ROWE, RUTHERFORD, STEWART, COCKERILL. Places: ESSEX, SUNDERLAND, NORFOLK, DURHAM, IRELAND, SCOTLAND.

What about Frederick Branton aged 31 a carpenter born Sunderland and his wife Ellen Branton ( nee Garnett?) aged 28 born 28 Kindel Street,London, Middlesex living at 11 Drury lane Square ,Sunderland on the 1881 census with them was 13 year old Joseph Garnett brother in law born 32 Board Street, London Middlesex ?

Hi I am planning a brief visit to Sunderland in June and am after some information. a) Would Sunderland Library in Fawcett Street have Parish Registers for Monkwearmouth Shore. b) If someone died in Monkwearmouth Shore, where is the most likely burial place. c) Have the MIs for Bishopwearmouth Cemetery been transcribed? I understand that there is a memorial to the MALING family in Bishopwearmouth Cemetery. Has anyone any knowledge of this? I am also looking for the death of Ann Elizabeth MALING (nee ABBS) the wife of John MALING. She was born in Monkwearmouth on 5 February 1800. John Maling was living in Monkwearmouth Shore when he died in 1838. Ann Elizabeth MALING had twin boys in 1831 Henry Edward MALING and William Russell MALING. The christening was on 24 August 1831 in Bishopwearmouth. I have traced William Russell MALING but haven't found anything about Henry Edward MALING. It is possible that both he and his mother died shortly after the birth. Any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards Sue Veillard Guernsey

In a message dated 10/04/2004 10:17:21 GMT Daylight Time, sueveillard@cwgsy.net writes: a) Would Sunderland Library in Fawcett Street have Parish Registers for Monkwearmouth Shore. At the Local Studies Centre at Sunderland City Library the great majority of the local parish registers are held on microfilm, as are the registers of the municipal cemeteries from 1856 to 1998. Monkwearmouth Shore was a township in the parish of Monkwearmouth. http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/Public/Editable/Themes/Lifelong-Learning/local-hi story.asp b) If someone died in Monkwearmouth Shore, where is the most likely burial place. It depends on the date, in 1838 it would be the graveyard at St. Peter's Church and the burials register from 1683-1891 is available at TWAS and should be at Sunderland. Mere Knolls Municipal Cemetery, was opened in 1856, as was Bishopwearmouth Cemetery. c) Have the MIs for Bishopwearmouth Cemetery been transcribed? The Local Studies Centre have some MIs and N&DFHS have some on fiche ut apparently not Bishopwearmouth. I hope this helps. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 09/04/2004 18:57:18 GMT Daylight Time, helendugdale@evemail.net writes: Can anyone advise me how to get in touch with Sunderland Family History Society, please? They do not seem to have an email or web address. I am interested in parish records. The Local Studies Centre at Sunderland City Library have an excellent collection of parish registers covering the Sunderland area. http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/Public/Editable/Themes/Lifelong-Learning/local-hi story.asp Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello List Can anyone advise me how to get in touch with Sunderland Family History Society, please? They do not seem to have an email or web address. I am interested in parish records. Thank you for any help you can give. Regards, Helen Rotherham, S Yorkshire

In a message dated 09/04/2004 18:57:18 GMT Daylight Time, helendugdale@evemail.net writes: Can anyone advise me how to get in touch with Sunderland Family History Society, please? There is no Sunderland Family History Society. The Northumberland & Durham Family History Society have a Sunderland Group. The N&DFHS site is www.ndfhs.org.uk Regards Stan Mapstone

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

I have joined this list in the hope that some one can shed some light on where my wife's Gr-father was born.He was Thomas Collins and in the 1891 Census he was living at 28 Thompson St. Bishopwearmouth, Sunderland. He was living with his father P. Collins, his mother E. Collins and 3 siblings.His age was given as 28 and place of birth Durham. He married Catherine Gordon in the same year (1891) and his age was given as 25. I can not find the family in the 1881 Census, and I will greatly appreciate any help. Jim Cleary, Napier, N. Z.

Hi list I am new to this list and wonder if somebody with access to the 1861 census for Sunderland could please do a lookup for me. My ancestor Robert Jackson Graham was born October 1861 address given as 2 Mount Pleasant Deptford Sunderland His father was George Graham, Mother Mary Frances Graham They were married in 1850 and the first child I have is Robert.I would say there were others before this and they would be on the 1861 census. I have them on the 1881 and 1891 but no children prior to Robert Any help would be very much appreciated Maureen in Oz

Hi Colin, I don't know if you had any replies to your question on the Temperance movement but there were many different temperance movements in Sunderland in the nineteenth century. These included the British Women's Temperance Association, the Sons of Temperance, the Band of Hope, the Temperance Society, the Church of England Temperance Society and the North of England Temperance Society. Sunderland Band of Hope was formed in 1881, and on 28th July 1894 thousands of children from the 33 Band of Hope branches marched from Holmeside via Stockton Road to lee's Field at Ryhope. By 1897 the Band of Hope had a nation-wide membership of 3,200,000 children. Thomas William Backhouse (1842-1920), who bequeathed Ashbourne House and gardens (Backhouse Park) to the town, was one of the influential leaders of the Temperance movement. Regards Stan Mapstone

Thank you for the map, Stan. I had fun and games navigating it but think I've got the hang of it now. I wish my forbears had been farmers and stayed put instead of moving all around England - most inconsiderate of them. Geraldine >From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >To: lawmarger@hotmail.com, ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Robert Young shipwright >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 03:09:32 EST > >In a message dated 29/03/2004 01:24:05 GMT Daylight Time, >lawmarger@hotmail.com writes: >Do you know where Wear St was/is? > >Hi Geraldine, >If you go to this link, there is an 1826 map of Sunderland, zoom in and >you >will see Wear Street on the north bank of the river, the ferry landing is >at >the east end of the street. >http://aesica.dur.ac.uk/pip/singlezoom.asp?img=m0129&ref1=94 > > >Regards Stan Mapstone _________________________________________________________________ Personalise your mobile chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ringtones.com.au/ninemsn/control?page=/ninemsn/main.jsp

Stan, As always thank you for your knowledge and advice re the site. Yoiu were right - he doesn't appear to have had his own business. The only Young I could find was a Thomas Young. I realise now it should be Wear St - as in Bishop and Monkwearmouth - mouth of the Wear, I suppose. Do you know where Wear St was/is? Geraldine >From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Robert Young shipwright >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 04:49:48 EST > >Hi Geraldine, >It should be Wear Street. You can search directories on line at Digital >Library of Historical Directories _http://www.historicaldirectories.org/_ >(http://www.historicaldirectories.org/) but Robert Young will not be >listed unless >he had his own business, ordinary householders are not listed. >Regards Stan Mapstone > > >==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== >The Lambton Worm, >http://orac.sunderland.ac.uk/lambton.html > _________________________________________________________________ What's your house worth? Click here to find out: http://www.ninemsn.realestate.com.au

In a message dated 29/03/2004 01:24:05 GMT Daylight Time, lawmarger@hotmail.com writes: Do you know where Wear St was/is? Hi Geraldine, If you go to this link, there is an 1826 map of Sunderland, zoom in and you will see Wear Street on the north bank of the river, the ferry landing is at the east end of the street. http://aesica.dur.ac.uk/pip/singlezoom.asp?img=m0129&ref1=94 Regards Stan Mapstone

... there used to be an old derelict house in the valley that we called the haunted house.... would this be Elstob House? >The name 'Elstob House' rings a bell, but I can't confirm that this is what we used to call the haunted house. I've looked at a few maps but none of them have a name for the house. It was more or less the only building in the valley behind the hills. ================================================================== The 'haunted house' you refer to was most likely the building that stood on its own in the valley on a bend in the road that runs between Tunstall and Leechmere. For many years, it stood empty and derelict except for the chickens kept their by the local farmer. I can understand how it got its haunted tag as it did indeed look quite a spooky place in a spot where there are no street lights. The valley often fills with low-lying mist, that looks like dry ice... which used to make it even more spooky. Eventually, some brave soul did the place up and I think there has been a number of different owners since then. Elstob House. on the other hand, is the farm on the ridge of land that extends north west from Tunstall Hill itself. There is a rather atmospheric oil painting in Sunderland Museum and Winter Gardens, executed in the early 1900's. It's a snow scene and the viewpoint is somewhere below the 'Green Hill' near to where Leechmere Road now runs. You can see the 'Green Hill' on the right hand side, a flock of sheep in the foreground, and Elstob House Farm in the distance. Elstob House is still standing and is marked on the current OS Explorer Map 308 (as is the 'haunted house'). There are two hills making up Tunstall Hills (or Maiden Paps) as they were originally called. One has a limestone rockface with an OS triangulation pillar and is nicknamed the Rocky Hill. The other hill, more rounded and grassy, is nicknamed Green Hill. A large crowd of people make their way their on Good Friday morning where they errect a wooden cross and hold a short ecumencial service. The Green Hill affords a spectacular view across the City of Sunderland. Regards... David Allan.

Hi Stan, As ever, thanks for sharing your knowledge of Sunderland. > <there used to be an old derelict house in the valley that we > called the haunted house> Would this be Elstob House? > The name 'Elstob House' rings a bell, but I can't confirm that this is what we used to call the haunted house. I've looked at a few maps but none of them have a name for the house. It was more or less the only building in the valley behind the hills. Sorry not to be more definite. Eddie

Just a little bit more on Tunstall Hills http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/thpg/page1.phtml Eddie

In a message dated 26/03/2004 09:08:29 GMT Standard Time, sue-eddie_arthur@sil.org writes: Tunstall Road rises quite steeply from Queen Alexandra Road to Leechmere Road and has the picturesque local name of Strawberry Bank - though I'm too young ever to have seen strawberries there - only 1930s housing Hi Eddie, The Strawberry Cottage Inn, and Tea and Pleasure Gardens stood at the bottom of Strawberry Bank. It dated from the early part of the 19th. century, and in 1955 the derelict building was demolished to make way for the new housing estate. Apparently it was celebrated for the cultivation of strawberries, the landlord in 1856, a Robert Fair was a gardener and seedsman. <there used to be an old derelict house in the valley that we called the haunted house> Would this be Elstob House? Regards Stan Mapstone

Hello Patrick, Tunstall Hill are on the South side of Sunderland if you look at multimap.com Tunstall hills are marked at about the third closest zoom otherwise they more or less lie in the curve between Leechmere Road and Tunstall Hope Road - you can park your car in the Precinct if you want to climb the hill at any time! There is a photograph at http://www.ryhope-village.co.uk/gallery.htm There are two hills: Tunstall Hill itself which overlooks the junction of Tunstall Road and Leechmere Road and Rocky hill which is behind it. In fact the 'hills' themselves are just the undeveloped top of a general rise that dominates that part of Sunderland. Tunstall Road rises quite steeply from Queen Alexandra Road to Leechmere Road and has the picturesque local name of Strawberry Bank - though I'm too young ever to have seen strawberries there - only 1930s housing Tunstall Hill itself is a gentle sandstone rise but Rocky Hill has one face that is quite steep and (as the name suggests) quite rocky. To my adult eyes they are no longer very high, but I spent many happy hours as a brave ten year old on the face of Rocky Hill imagining myself on Everest. You get a fine view of the city of Sunderland from Tunstall Hill and with a friend's dad we would sometimes climb there to see the New Year in. The open area around the hill was popular with dog walkers and courting couples and there was (and perhaps still are) quite a number of football (soccer) fields on the edge of the area towards Leechmere Road. It was also a favourite location of teenage boys with nothing to do on a summer afternoon. "Let's gan up Tunna!" would be the cry in a good Sunderland dialect. One last thing. Tunstall Hope Road dips down into a little wooded valley behind Tunstall Hills and there used to be an old derelict house in the valley that we called the haunted house - we didn't believe in such things - but it still gave us a chill. Over the last few years that house has been renovated and developed into what must be one of the nicest residential locations in the city. I returned to Sunderland a couple of weeks ago to see my 'mam' and drove in, as I always do, over Tunstall Hope Road, which isn't the most direct way into the city - but it's MY way in with lots of memories. But it's only in looking at Tunstall Hills on Multimap today that I discovered its real name. Even my kids know that road as the 'haunted house road'. Oh, I forgot to mention. Tunstall was almost certainly a small village which has been swallowed up by the development of Sunderland. Stan will no doubt be able to give more on the objective history of the area - while I wallow in nostalgia. Have you noticed that nostalgia isn't what it used to be? Eddie