In a message dated 13/08/2004 14:55:53 GMT Daylight Time, ADRABBOTT@aol.com writes: Does anyone know where it was, and if there was a ferry nearby? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In 1827 John Hardcastle was a shipbuilder on Thornhill's Wharf, which was at the bottom of Pottery Bank, There were two ferries in this area which is further down the river than the Sunderland Ferry, dating from the seventh century, which ran from the bottom of Bodlewell Lane. At the East end of the wharf which was later called the Commissioners' Quay was a slipway, and a ferry ran from there to Sand Point Road at the East end of the North Sands Shipbuilding Yard. I would assume that this is 'Hardcastle's Slipway' although it is not marked as such. There was also the 'Low Ferry' which ran from the Custom House Quay to Strand Street at the West end of the North Sands Shipbuilding Yard. In 1830, which was before the building of the South Docks, Thornhill's Wharf was at the entrance to the river, and would fit with the report for 16th May 1830. The ferry mentioned in that report was most probably the Sunderland Ferry. I hope this helps? Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

What memories you stirred up. As children we would swim across to save the ha'penny it cost for the ferry. Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: <ADRABBOTT@aol.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Hardcastle's Slip > I have just found that a great-uncle by marriage, Patrick O'Neill, was found > in the Wear drowned near Hardcastle's Slip in 1913. According to the death > cert. the coroner found no explanation as to the reasons for him being in the > river. > > Family hearsay has it that he was inebriated and took a dive off a > ferryboat, but this doesn't seem to be substantiated. > > I've searched for Hardcastle's Slip on the Net, and the only reference I can > find is to a shipping disaster in May 1830, where 65-75 ships were grounded > due to a severe outrush of water, and this imples that the Slip was near the > Sunderland harbour entrance. > > Does anyone know where it was, and if there was a ferry nearby? > > Adrian, Hants > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > This list is only as good as you make it. Please Participate and help keep it interesting! > >

In a message dated 13/08/2004 16:02:45 GMT Standard Time, tmg@blueyonder.co.uk writes: What memories you stirred up. As children we would swim across to save the ha'penny it cost for the ferry. Trish; Thankyou - so there was a ferry. But where was it, please? Adrian

I have just found that a great-uncle by marriage, Patrick O'Neill, was found in the Wear drowned near Hardcastle's Slip in 1913. According to the death cert. the coroner found no explanation as to the reasons for him being in the river. Family hearsay has it that he was inebriated and took a dive off a ferryboat, but this doesn't seem to be substantiated. I've searched for Hardcastle's Slip on the Net, and the only reference I can find is to a shipping disaster in May 1830, where 65-75 ships were grounded due to a severe outrush of water, and this imples that the Slip was near the Sunderland harbour entrance. Does anyone know where it was, and if there was a ferry nearby? Adrian, Hants

Hell, I am new to this list, am researching various families from Sunderland as follows. COLLINS, LUCKLEY, BOWREN, REVEL, I have them mainly about 1780-1850 based in Sunderland, if anyone has any possible connection would love to hear from them. Regards Ken Peterson

Dear Ken There is a Revel in the aristocrates in some of my Royal work but all is packed up. I am June Peavey Washington State USA. We are Pevel- Peverel - Peverly descendants. The Peverel- Peverly came down from Scotland- English Knights in the war of the Roses who had to flee to Scotland. They centered about 1620 in Durham- Northumberland then gravitated into Yorkshire County, England. Some were from Staindrop and Auckland. Love June and the Groups ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Peterson" <k.peterson@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:45 AM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] New to list > Hell, > I am new to this list, am researching various families from Sunderland as follows. > COLLINS, > LUCKLEY, > BOWREN, > REVEL, > I have them mainly about 1780-1850 based in Sunderland, if anyone has any possible connection would love to hear from them. > Regards > Ken Peterson > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > History of Sunderland, > http://www.sunderland-index.co.uk/history/history01.html >

Hello Listers...............after years of searching have found the married name for Mary Ann Reed. In 1885 she married a Charles Cassidy at St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Walker, District of Tynemouth. I have found her and two children arriving New York City in 1899. Her husband, Charles, residing in Port Elizabeth, New Jersey. The 19l0 Census shows just Mary Ann and her son, Charles. Is there any out there researching this family? Still searching - Judy

Thomas <B>Wills</B>, b. ca 1834, occup. Customs Officer, father of John George Wills (below), lived at 29 Becham Square, Sunderland Cuthbert <B>Hall</B>, b. 1819, Sunderland, d. September 1852, occup. Shipwright, married... Elizabeth <B>Murray</B>, b. 1823, Sunderland, lived at 35 Flag Lane, Sunderland, children of this union: Margaret, Annie, James Murray and Mary <B>Hall</B>, b. March 23, 1855, d, November 20, 1943 in San Diego, California, USA, married John George <B>Wills</B> b. 1854 in Sunderland, occup. Shipsmith, children of this union are: Elizabeth Jane, b. October 22, 1874 in Sunderland, d. July 26, 1952, San Diego, CA, USA John George, b.November 17, 1875, d. November 6 in Sunderland, 1940 in San Diego, California, USA Alfred Ernest, b. December 14, 1877 in Sunderland, d. March 21, 1965 in Granite, Oklahoma, USA Cuthbert Hall, b. 1880 in Sunderland Thomas William, b. January 10, 1883 in Sunderland, d. June24, 1955 in Lakeside, San Diego County, California, USA James Murray, b. February 17, 1885 in Mexico, d. May 11 1972 in El Paso, Texas, USA Frederick Charles, b. May 21, 1887 in Chihuahua, Mexico, d. August 19, 1947 in San Diego, California, USA Margret {Mae) A., b. July 13, 1890 in Eagle Pass, Texas, USA, d. July 21 1992 in Los Angeles, California, USA Harry Wilfred, b. June 28, 1892 in Texas, d. March 18, 1983 in Los Angeles, California, USA Arthur Edward, b. Novmber 2, 1895 in Texas, d. July 24 1986 in Orange County, California, USA Walter G., b. May 4, 1898 in Granite, Oklahoma, USA, d. December 29, 1968 in Los Angeles, CA, USA Anyone having connections to these people please contact me. Thank you! Charles

Hi I am reserching the Southern family of Sunderland I have a Thomas Southern born 1883 who married a Jenny Ridley Looking to make contact with descendants of these families Ruth Australia

Hi Liz and Ken You are asking about McLeod attachments. In the 1891 census there was a Mary Jane McLeod living with my Grt Grandparents James and Elizabeth Allan---14 Eden Street---Sunderland---Co Durham her age was given as 16 she would have been born about 1874/5, it also stated she was a Grand Daughter. I have also been looking for any connection hope this is of help to us both. Regards Allan 06/08/04 16:34pm

Can anyone please help with my research on the following members of my family tree, such as links with other families in the area, and branches of the McLeods who married Fultons, Joblins, Andersons and Walkers. The McLeods: Stephen 1796 John 1828, David 1830, Sarah 1832, George Reuben 1833-1890 Stephen 1864, Joseph 1866, John 1869, Mary 1873, George Reuben 1875-1943, David 1878 Robert 1880 Catherine Anderson, Elizeabeth Fulton, Mary Joblin and Clarendar or Clarander Walker. All the above were born and bred in and around Sunderland, Monkwearmouth, Bishopwearmouth, Deptford Dean ( I don't know if this is an area or a road) and Durham City. Does anyone know of any possible connections with their own family, or someone they know in the area? Thanks, Liz Coulthard

hello Richard, I have no O'HAIR connections amongst the REED family, my REEDS were from the Dalton-le-Dale, Seaham Harbour area, although I have a George REED married to Anne POTTS around 1827 in Sunderland. I also have STEPHENSONS from Easington, married to a REED family member in 1870. Sorry there's no link but its all interesting hearing about my place of birth. regards, Derek Lambert.

Hello to all, Will put my interests up also. Richardson of Sunderland and Bishopwearmouth. John d 1817m Eliz Boldero 1799 John d Villiers St age 45 chn John, Margaret, Boldero, Robson 1811 Robson appears as a shipbuilder in 1840 something at Low St and he died relative young in 1850. his wife Eliz re married a Topliffe John m Jane Garbutt, no issue, but when she died in Liverpool, he remarried a Dorothy Taylor and I am descended from one their children, another John. I have not confirmed this, but I believe the John d 1817 , may have had the parents of John and Ann Atkinson. I know his parents were JOhn and Ann ?? Margaret m a Daniel Bowen in Sunderland Boldero m a Martha x Any connections to this Richardson family or any light on how I might confirm the 'Atkinson' would be appreciated. Glenda Aust.

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hi These are my present interests Henry BOYS m Margaret SHERATON - Elwick Hall 1725 Anthony BULMER m Jane ELSDON - Monkwearmouth 1821 Joshua HALL m Ann RAEBURN – Whitburn 1800 Matthew HODGSON m Margaret LAWSON Easington 1797 Simon NEWBY m Hannah HODGSON – Easington 1819 Simon NEWBY m Elizabeth RITSON – Bishopwearmouth 1783 Ralph THOMPSON m Ann HALL – Deptford 1870 If anyone thinks they may have a connection with any of the above, please contact me Thank you Kaytie -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Hi All Thought while the list was quiet would post my surname interests. Would welcome contact from anyone researching the same names. POLLEY> OLD> COCKERILL> HUNTER> BOOTH> FRATER> RICHARDS> POSGATE. GANLEY> FINNEGAN> BAINBRIDGE> KELLY> ROWE> CARR> HALL. BRANTON> LINCOLN. Sue Sunderland

-----Original Message----- From: Sue Sent: 31 July 2004 21:33 To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUNDERLAND] HELLO TO YOU ALL Hi Sue Received your message. Think the list is quiet at the moment. Sue Sunderland

Just checking - hope you don't mind. Are you all still receiving e.mails from this List. I haven't had any for ages and wondered if there was a problem. Maybe you could let me know. Regards Sue x --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 29/07/04

Hi Everyone, I would appreciate any information or help to trace descendants /ancestors of William Shepherdson who was born on 1649 and married to Grace Neelson on 4 June 1672. They were from Bishopwearmouth, Durham and they were presumably from a line of Mariners. They had 15 Children; one of them was William Shepherdson who moved to Ramsgate, Kent and was a Captain/Mariner . He was christened on 22 November 1690 (Durham) and married to Ann Holman on 24 October 1714 at the Church of St. Lawrence, Thanet, Kent. England. Please note the Shepherdson name (variations) has been spelt in several ways. Thanks With kind regards Percival Shepherdson (Shepherdson Family from Singapore/Malaysia -Descendants from William Shepherdson (1714) Ramsgate, Kent, England)

Ann-marie Hill asked if I could send a copy of the habitual drunkards notice, If you let me have your off list e mail address ann-marie, I will send it to you, regards, Derek.