Good Morning - have any of you come across a Charles Reed born 1866. He had a daughter Florrie who became Florrie Towers after marriage. She resided and died in Blaydon. Lately I've found 'dead ends' to family lines. I wonder if the Boer War and WWI took a greater toll then we realize. Grateful for any information - Judy

Hi, I've just joined this list. I'm researching my great great Grandfather, Anthony Carr Hodgson, b. November 8, 1844 in Sunderland, Durham, England. I'm trying to find his parents or any other information on him. Does anyone have information that could help me? Thanks for any and all help. Lorrie

Dear List I have finished checking my piece for the 1861 census of Sunderland. Hopefully in the not-too-distant future you may see it on the Freecens page. But in the meantime, I would like to thank you all for answering my questions. I'm unsubscribing from the list for the time being but who knows - I may be back with another piece. I shall look forward to joining you again because this is a most friendly and helpful list. Thank you Janice Toowoomba

----- Original Message ----- From: "mr derek lambert" <dereks@rokerman.ndo.co.uk> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:29 AM Subject: [genealogy] [SUNDERLAND] 40 thieves > I remember the term 40 thieves very well, it refered to various business men in Sunderland at the time who were doing very well for themselves by slightly shady dealings, I could mention a few names, but they may still be around !!! > > Derek. > Derek, Although I fully understand your reticence regarding naming names, can't you give us a few clues? eg, the original query mentioned lawyers and accountants. Could you at least nominate the range of professions and/or types of business that you believe to have been involved? Otherwise, we could appear to be casting quite a slur on the reputation of the entire business community of 1950s Sunderland. Though I suppose, if there were really only 40 "thieves", that would leave a remarkably large number of honest traders. Alternatively, please email me off-list with the surnames of all your suspects, and I will respond to any that I recognise with knowing nods/surprise as I see fit :-))) Tim.

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I would be interested in contacting anyone with information regarding William Lawson who lived at 5 Moor Terrace, Sunderland in 1891. Also any further information about his Mother Elizabeth and Father William a coalminer (and later perhaps a Methodist Minister) who lived at 9 6th Cross Road in Haswell, Durham. in 1881. Thank you, Diane from Toronto

I remember the term 40 thieves very well, it refered to various business men in Sunderland at the time who were doing very well for themselves by slightly shady dealings, I could mention a few names, but they may still be around !!! Derek.

Hi, List- I'm reposting my interests- Wilson - George, Thomas Llewellyn - Hanna, Richard, Martha Bates - Martha Hall - Sarah Jane, Violet Ann, Matthew, Anthony Chater - John, Jane, Violet Ann Blackburn - Richard, Hannah Lothian - Martha If anyone is researching any of these names, please let me know. Thanks, Deb in Ontario, Canada

I am trying to find information about Margaret Pearson.She married Samuel Bishop Pearson about 1875 and they had a daughter Jane Edith.The family were connected to Pearsons Mineral Water factory in Sunderland.I think the marriage might have failed but Margaret is registered as still associated with the factory in the 1901 census.I would like to know her maiden name and any information about her grandson's (John Rupert Murray)connection with the factory.Also, does the title 'FortyThieves' in connection with a group of lawyers/accountants operating in Sunderland about 1900 mean anything to anyone.Many thanks Joan Murray

I can remember the term 'forty thieves' being used in the early 1950s but it was not referring to Sunderland town council. Alan Vickers

Hi Joan, Could you give any additional information? Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

In a message dated 04/10/2004 09:58:30 GMT Daylight Time, alan-vickers@lineone.net writes: I can remember the term 'forty thieves' being used in the early 1950s but it was not referring to Sunderland town council. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alan, How do you know it wasn't, and who was it referring to? Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

In a message dated 04/10/2004 04:19:17 GMT Daylight Time, joanmurray@xtra.co.nz writes: Also, does the title 'FortyThieves' in connection with a group of lawyers/accountants operating in Sunderland about 1900 mean anything to anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This term was still being used by my father when I was a youngster in Sunderland. I always assumed it referred to the local Town Council! Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Hi I am trying to find out more about what happened to George Henry Brown who married Louise Margetts 3 March 1905 in Sunderland Register Office. They both gave their address as 54 Nora St Sunderland at the time of their marriage. Louisa/e was my Great Grandmother and her maiden name was Margetts. She had my Grandfather illegitimately in 1891 and he was adopted out. I have only recently found our about Louisa and would dearly love to know if she and George had any other children. I believe she lied about her age at her marriage as she was born in DEC 1867 but put 30, so she would have been about 37 when they married so may not have had any more children. I am pretty sure it is the right Louisa as the father's name and occupation are correct. i hope that someone out there is researching Brown's and may have some information. Thanks Penny in NZ

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Thank you Brian,Joan and Kathryn ,help much appreciated.I was looking for grandmother Betsy as well,so that was a bonus.Sorry I haven't the full reference for Esh winning.it looks as though East Terrace is not to be found anywhere .Jean

Request please, Is anyone visiting the PRO in London in the near future who could look up the 1891 census please.The address:- 5,East Terrace ,Esh Winning, Durham.These pages are missing from the 1891 copy at DCRO. The Family are JAMES JOHN ALLISON H M 39 COAL MINER DENT YORKS MARY ANN ALLISON M W 34 GARSDALE YORKS BETSY ALLISON S D 14 HEDLEY HILL DURHAM JOSEPH MORLAND ALLISON S 9 HEDLEY HILL DURHAM WATSON ALLISON S 4 ESH WINNING DURHAM Thank you Jean

I am looking for more information and documentation on my great grandparents: William SCOTT/SCUTT b. 29 Jan 1848 in Harndell(?) Brigton(?), Sussex, to Charlie and Mary. m. Mary Ealoner GLEDDEN b. Aberdeen, Scotland 1850. Marriage was in Sunderland, Durham, England, in third quarter of 1880. She already had a daughter, Elizabeth, age 4 yrs. They immigrated to Canada in 1883. By then they had two more children: Charles William and Mary Alice. Thank you, Carolyn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Hello Sue, When I had this problem, I re-registered on Sunderland mailing list at rootsweb. Hope this helps Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <sue@capcoffee.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Hello - Is there anyone there???? > Hiya, > > Just wondering if this list is still active - I have not been receiving e.mails for ages. Anyone else got this problem? > > Many thanks. > > Sue x > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 21/09/04 > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > Hylton Castle, > http://blake.sunderland.ac.uk/~ta5msy/castle.htm >

Hello Sue, When thuis happened to me, I went back to rootsweb and re-registered on the Sunderland mailing list Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <sue@capcoffee.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] Hello - Is there anyone there???? > Hiya, > > Just wondering if this list is still active - I have not been receiving e.mails for ages. Anyone else got this problem? > > Many thanks. > > Sue x > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 21/09/04 > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > Hylton Castle, > http://blake.sunderland.ac.uk/~ta5msy/castle.htm >