This is my first post to this list. I am researching the family of Edward Sproat Oliver and his wife Jane Ayre. I know they were living at 51 Harrogate Street Bishopswearmouth in Durham in 1881. Is there a kind person out there, that would be able to have a look up at this same address for this family in 1871 and 1891. I know that Edward Sproat Oliver died in 1875 but Jane die not die until 1893. They had a son William Oliver aged 32 in 1881 and a Catherine A Oliver aged 30 in 1881. Jane was 66 and head of the house in 1881. I am hoping that his is the same family that was living in Liverpool Lancashire at one time, and I would love to know if they had any more children. Thanking you in anticipation. Carolyn in Western Australia

Hi Carolyn Just Jane and William at 51 Harrogate in 1891. Sorry don't have 1871. Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada 1891 British Census Civil parish: Bishop Wearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St Ignatius Town: County: Durham Street address: 51 Harrogate Street Source information: RG12/4138 Registration district: Sunderland Sub registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 72 Page: 51 Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Oliver, Jane 75 Sunderland, Durham Head Oliver, William 42 Newcastle upon Tyne Son ----- Original Message ----- From: "carolyn macri" <cmacri@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:07 PM Subject: [SUNDERLAND] OLIVER / SPROAT > This is my first post to this list. > > I am researching the family of Edward Sproat Oliver and his wife Jane > Ayre. > > I know they were living at 51 Harrogate Street Bishopswearmouth in Durham > in 1881. Is there a kind person out there, that would be able to have a > look up at this same address for this family in 1871 and 1891. I know > that Edward Sproat Oliver died in 1875 but Jane die not die until 1893. > They had a son William Oliver aged 32 in 1881 and a Catherine A Oliver > aged 30 in 1881. Jane was 66 and head of the house in 1881. > > I am hoping that his is the same family that was living in Liverpool > Lancashire at one time, and I would love to know if they had any more > children. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Carolyn in Western Australia > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > This list is only as good as you make it. Please Participate and help keep > it interesting! > > >

Thank you for this Stan. Yep - like you say, an expensive memorial. Its just on the outskirts of ward 8. Turns out that the Fred LARKIN married Margaret DOLAN in 1896 at St Mary's. Ah well....the search continues. I've given my sister some other leads to follow regarding the memorial so hopefully she can turn up the info. she wants. thanks again Diane R Sunderland UK Stanmapstone@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 27/10/2004 07:19:51 GMT Daylight Time, oaktree1503@yahoo.co.uk writes: alternatively is anyone researching the LARKIN family. They are not connected to our family, but my sister, like me, is so taken with the monument, she is trying to find a little about its history and the family it commemorates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. I don't know the monument, but it seems like an expensive memorial. There do not appear to have been many Larkins in Sunderland, in the 1881 Census there is only one family, that of Peter J. Larkin, a publican at the Crown Inn, Bowes Quay. In the 1901 Census Fred Larkin, his son is also an Inn Keeper. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

is there a census for 1861 & 1871 for the Sunderland district only and the cost and distributor please. TIA Margaret South Australia

In a message dated 27/10/2004 07:19:51 GMT Daylight Time, oaktree1503@yahoo.co.uk writes: alternatively is anyone researching the LARKIN family. They are not connected to our family, but my sister, like me, is so taken with the monument, she is trying to find a little about its history and the family it commemorates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. I don't know the monument, but it seems like an expensive memorial. There do not appear to have been many Larkins in Sunderland, in the 1881 Census there is only one family, that of Peter J. Larkin, a publican at the Crown Inn, Bowes Quay. In the 1901 Census Fred Larkin, his son is also an Inn Keeper. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Hi Folks I'm posting this on behalf of my sister. I wonder if anyone can help me with this. In Sunderland Cemetery (at Grangetown) just past the chapel on the left hand side is a monument which consists of three tiers, with a huge angel leaning over it and holding the monument in her arms. It is dedicated to the LARKIN family, wife Margaret, her husband Frederick William and their son Frederick William. Is anyone out there (particularly Stan) familiar with the Angel and if so do what does it symbolise. The family were Roman Catholics. alternatively is anyone researching the LARKIN family. They are not connected to our family, but my sister, like me, is so taken with the monument, she is trying to find a little about its history and the family it commemorates. many thanks happy hunting Diane R Sunderland, UK Researching in Sunderland Area: RAIN, ROSS, STEWART, DAVIE, JEFFERSON, ROWE, MILTON (Minnie the ever elusive), SWINHOE, MORDEY, WHORLEY/WORLEY --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Jan, I have Richardsons in B'wearmouth. Contact me and we will compare info. Glenda Aust

Hello I am looking for CRALLAN from Applelby and RICHARDSON from Bishopwearmouth Regards Jan Jones

Thanks for that web-site Ken.I have sent off an e-mail and fingers crossed I will get a result. Regards, Jim Cleary

Hi Neighbour, Coincidence - my family lived 29 The Panns, Bishopwearmouth. I have photos of the 1851 and 1861 census pages. There seemed to be a number of families living at the same address, I don't know if each Panns address was a separate street or alley or some form of tenement, any idea. Robson's don't show up on either photo. Regards David Rowntree -----Original Message----- From: Allan Robson [mailto:adrobson@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 25 October 2004 1:41 AM To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SUNDERLAND] John Graham & Elizabeth Robson, Sunderland Hello All Does anybody have the following in there tree, 1861 Census as follows 30 The Panns Bishopwearmouth John George Graham age 36 Engine Driver Elizabeth Robson age 29 House servant Frances Robson Graham age 6 Esther Robson Graham age 3 William Robson Graham age 1 After checking the births of these children John George Graham is the father of these children but I cant find if he ever married Elizabeth Robson I have no record of a Marriage, also there is no sign of Elizabeth Robson on the 1871 or 1881 Census. Maybe someone can help on this. Regards Allan Robson ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== Genuki Sunderland pages, http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Sunderland/index.html

In a message dated 24/10/2004 22:42:27 GMT Daylight Time, davtree@bigpond.com writes: Coincidence - my family lived 29 The Panns, Bishopwearmouth. I have photos of the 1851 and 1861 census pages. There seemed to be a number of families living at the same address, I don't know if each Panns address was a separate street or alley or some form of tenement, any idea. Robson's don't show up on either photo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bishopwearmouth Panns ran from Bridge Street (Bridge Crescent) to Low Street. The Parish Boundary between Bishopwearmouth and Sunderland crossed at Russell Street, and from there it was called Low Street. The Panns was a mixture of industry and houses. In 1858 No. 28 was occupied by a shoemaker and No. 30 by a sailmaker. There were still a number of residents in the 1881 Census. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Hello All I am looking for the baptism of John Robson born 1840 his birth is not Registered at the General Record Office, I have looked for quite sometime, maybe someone has come across the following whilst looking through various parish Records. John Robson, parents John Robson (Joiner by Trade) & Eleanor Urwin the family were living in Newcastle up to 1835 & then Hetton-Le -Hole 1841 Census, I have looked at Newcastle & Hetton Parish records but no luck as well as looking in the surrounding area Parishes. Regards Allan Robson

Hello All Does anybody have the following in there tree, 1861 Census as follows 30 The Panns Bishopwearmouth John George Graham age 36 Engine Driver Elizabeth Robson age 29 House servant Frances Robson Graham age 6 Esther Robson Graham age 3 William Robson Graham age 1 After checking the births of these children John George Graham is the father of these children but I cant find if he ever married Elizabeth Robson I have no record of a Marriage, also there is no sign of Elizabeth Robson on the 1871 or 1881 Census. Maybe someone can help on this. Regards Allan Robson

Whoops!! What I mean't to say was I am trying to find the Maiden name of ELLEN COLLINS. Jim Cleary, Napier, N Z

I am still plugging away trying to find where Patrick and Ellen Collins came from in Ireland.In an attempt to find the christian name of Ellen, I have obtained several birth Certs. for children whose details from the 1837 site seemed to be the right ones, but they are all from the wrong families.Now I have found another possible son, Patrick, with the following details;PATRICK COLLINS B SEPT Q 1870 STOCKTON 10A 40.In the 1881 census Patricks place of birth was given as SUNDERLAND, DURHAM.Is there any way I can find the the details of this birth without ending up with another useless certificate? Jim Cleary,Napier, N Z

Hi All, I have a marriage certificate for a Frank Ridley and Isabella Colling Bolton. in 1877. Does anyone connect to this family Ruth Ridley Australia

Hi Everyone Could anyone help me with finding my gr - uncle Herbert Ernest JACKSON born 1869 in Little Bolton Lanc,s. By 1901 Herbert was a Reporter ? somewhere in South Shields,Durham .Also had sisters Ada JACKSON & Edith McKINLEY nee JACKSON These are long lost family member,s who we know married sometime after 1901. Many thanks Tony

I inadvertently made reference to the deaths of John and Isabella. This was incorrect as, while it is known they travelled to OZ with at least two children, their death records have not yet been found. The information re having been born in Sunderland comes from other sources. My apologies. the older of the tworobbos

I am seeking help to find the marriage of John GRAHAM & Isabella DAWSON who migrated to Australia around 1840 and their antecedents if possible. Both were stated as having been born in Sunderland at the time of their deaths. Known children were son, John, born about 1832 and daughter, Jane - whose age is unknown. the older of the tworobbos

Hello to you all. I wondered if anyone was researching the surname BULGER from the Sunderland/Houghton-le-Spring/Easington areas - I have a middle name of BULGER connected to my GRAHAM family. Many thanks. Sue x --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/04