In a message dated 29/11/2004 23:48:04 GMT Standard Time, Jschack@nucleus.com writes: Thank-you Stan. I see I am on the wrong e-mail group. Do I unsubscribe the usual way? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jennifer, Yes, to leave ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L, send mail to ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. You could join the RootsWeb DUR-NBL list or the Northumbria list. It is just as well you mentioned Northumberland, but are you sure it is the Sunderland in Northumberland? North Sunderland comes in the Parish of Bambrough, see _http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Bamburgh/ChurchRecords.html_ (http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Bamburgh/ChurchRecords.html) Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Hi Jennifer If this is Peter and family in 1901 then Peter born in Durham. Herrington doesn't seem to be aplace but maybe a mistranscription of Merrington or maybe even Heighington. Perhaps Stan Mapstone could help with the geography. Hope this helps. Murray Jones Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada ********************************** 1901 British Census Census_Place: Sunderland Census_County: Borough Of Sunderland Name PRO_Age Year_Born Where_Born Occupation HORN, Rose 34 1867 Sussex, Bartle HORN, Peter 33 1868 Durham, Herrington* Coal Miner Hewer HORN, Edith 2 1899 Durham, Sland HORN, Dany 10 1891 Hampshire, Portsmouth HORN, Harold 3 1898 Durham, S'land HORN, Norman 11M 1900 Durham, S'land * Might this be Merrington or maybe even Heighington ? ********************************** 1891 British Census Civil parish: Monkwearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St Columba County: Durham Street address: 20 Bond Street Source information: RG12/4147 Registration district: Sunderland Sub registration district: Monk Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 60 Page: 51 Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Horn, Florence 16 Sunderland, Durham Daughter Horn, John 53 Washington, Durham Head Horn, Mary Jane 54 Philadelphia, Durham Wife Horn, Peter** 23 Oakenshaw, Durham Son Baker, Rose 11*** Sunderland, Durham Visitor Baker, Daisey Alice 24 Battle, Essex Visitor Horn, Margt 11.12Portsmouth, Hampshire Daughter-of-above* * With a line pointing to Daisey Alice ** The only Peter HORN born Durham on a exact serach *** Could be something else because it has a line drawn through the age. ************************************** Household Record 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender AgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability Alfred DRAY Head M Male 27 Salehurst, Sussex, England Land & Engineering Surveyor Sarah A. DRAY Wife M Female 27 St Mary Cray, Kent, England Albert Jas. DRAY Son U Male 4 St Leonards, Sussex, England Scholar ?> Rose BAKER Serv U Female 14 Battle*, Sussex, England Domestic Servant Frank Chas. DRAY Son Of Above Male 1 Newcross, Kent, England William FENWICK Nephew Male 13 Scholar Lucy ANDREWS Lodger M Female 36 Market Harboro, Leicester, England Lodging Keeper Ellen GOWARD Lodger W Female 38 Market Harboro, Leicester, England Lodging Keeper Caroline UNWINS Boarder U Female 41 * Bartle for Battle in 1901? Source Information: Dwelling 4 South Terrace Census PlaceHastings St Andrew, Sussex, England Family History Library Film 1341243 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1026 / 4 Page Number 1 ************************************** 1871 Census Name: Rose Baker Age in 1871: 4 Estimated birth year: 1867 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Battle, Sussex, England Civil parish: Penhurst Town: Battle County/Island: Sussex Country: England Source information: RG10/1037 Registration district: Battle Sub-registration district: Battle ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Folio: 82 Page: 8 Household schedule number: 1 ************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Schack" <Jschack@nucleus.com> To: <ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Sunderland Echo obit > > Hello, > > I have been on the Sunderland list for some time now, hoping for a bite > on one person who is eluding me. However, I have found nothing that is > related to my family yet. So I thought perhaps someone else might be > waiting as I have been and I would like to put out an APB for my > missing Great-great grandfather. > > His name is James (or possibly John) William "Peter" Horn. He is said > to be born 1868 and married Rose Baker in Sunderland, Northumberland > April 13 1891. He was a soldier and came from a family with 9 sisters. > Once he married Rose (a gypsy) he was disowned. He and Rose are said > to have come to Canada in 1904, landing in Montreal. > > I would appreciate any help or information anyone can give me on how to > find him in Sunderland. > > Most sincerely, > > Jennifer Schack > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > Genuki Sunderland pages, > http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Sunderland/index.html > > >

Thank-you Stan. I see I am on the wrong e-mail group. Do I unsubscribe the usual way? Jennifer Schack On 29-Nov-04, at 11:51 AM, deb wrote: > Hello, List > Would anyone have access to the Sunderland Echo on or about 17 Dec. > 1940? > If so, I would greatly appreciate a look-up of the obit for my > great-grandmother, Sarah Jane Wilson, nee Hall, wife of George Wilson. > Debbie in Southern Ontario > > > ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Owner send mail to, > ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-admin@lists5.rootsweb.com >

In a message dated 29/11/2004 21:02:42 GMT Standard Time, Jschack@nucleus.com writes: His name is James (or possibly John) William "Peter" Horn. He is said to be born 1868 and married Rose Baker in Sunderland, Northumberland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sunderland (or correctly North Sunderland) just outside Seahouses, in Northumberland has nothing to do with the City of Sunderland in County Durham Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Hello, I have been on the Sunderland list for some time now, hoping for a bite on one person who is eluding me. However, I have found nothing that is related to my family yet. So I thought perhaps someone else might be waiting as I have been and I would like to put out an APB for my missing Great-great grandfather. His name is James (or possibly John) William "Peter" Horn. He is said to be born 1868 and married Rose Baker in Sunderland, Northumberland April 13 1891. He was a soldier and came from a family with 9 sisters. Once he married Rose (a gypsy) he was disowned. He and Rose are said to have come to Canada in 1904, landing in Montreal. I would appreciate any help or information anyone can give me on how to find him in Sunderland. Most sincerely, Jennifer Schack

Hello, List Would anyone have access to the Sunderland Echo on or about 17 Dec. 1940? If so, I would greatly appreciate a look-up of the obit for my great-grandmother, Sarah Jane Wilson, nee Hall, wife of George Wilson. Debbie in Southern Ontario

Hello I wonder if someone can help solve a problem I have concerning William Wigham Rackstraw. My grandfather had a brother named William Wigham Rackstraw who was born in 1910 but died soon afterwards. However there was another William Wigham Rackstraw born in 1906 and was in killed at Hylton Colliery Coal Mine 1959 aged 53. Can anybody help me to find out who this other William was. He is not a brother of my grandfather but perhaps a cousin. The details I have are as follows: 1. William Wigham Rackstraw - born 4 Jan 1910 Sunderland died as a baby, son of James Lincoln Rackstraw and Elizabeth Gibson. He is my grandfather's brother. refer: Births March 1910 William Wigham Rackstraw Sunderland 10a 696 2 William Wigham Rackstraw - born about 1906, killed at Hylton Colliery Coal Mine 1959 aged 53. refer: Births June 1906 - William Wigham Rackstraw Sunderland 10a 742 Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you Tony Rackstraw

-----Original Message----- From: trenoweth Subject: [SUNDERLAND] William Wigham Rackstraw Hi Tony Not sure how far I can help but I am researching the LINCOLN surname in Sunderland. I have today collected a copy of a baptism record for Mary Jane LINCOLN dated 29 Oct 1883 and her parents were William Wigham Rackstraw & Mary Jane LINCOLN. Mary Jane was the daughter of James LINCOLN & Jean Grace Davie. Mary also had a sister named Agnes who married John Dinsdale Rackstraw. I have further information on RACKSTRAW. Maybe best if you contact me direct. Cheers Sue Sunderland

On Free BMD there is a death Sep 1870 quarter for Helen Eliza Bishop age 41. My question is can anyone lay claim to her so that I don't buy another incorrect certificate? My Helen Bishop has never been known to my knowledge to have a middle name. Last found living Rochester, Kent where her son Thomas George Bishop was born 1859. She and the rest of the family are unaccounted for in the 1861 census of Kent, Durham & IOW areas. Helen's husband remarried in 1874 a widow (IOW) Futher details: Helen Brown born Coxhoe, County Durham 1828 to Stephen & Elizabeth Brown. Any help would be appreciated. A long standing puzzle. Regards Margaret South Coast South Australia temp around the 100 mark

If a marriage in February of 1837 is listed at Gateshead Fell, would this be Gateshead Fell St Johns? Would anyone know from where might I get a copy of the specific record? Thanks, Ron Hancock Toronto, Canada

Hello All Reposting Interests as follows; Robson, Sunderland Hall, Sunderland Douglas, Sunderland Hewison, Sunderland. Regards Allan Robson

Would it be possible for someone to look up the 1871 census for me? Im looking for Thomas Kennerdale/Kennerell who married in Gateshead registration district. Many thanks judith

Hello I am new to this list. I am searching for information on the Roxby and Hillam families. I know that a lot of my ancestors hailed from the Seaham and also the Houghton areas. Looking esp for info on Henry Gustard Roxby and ancestors. Henry was born in 1878 in New Seaham. Also for ancestors of Ena May Hillam, born in Seaham in 1906. F Proud

Hello All I wonder if anyone can help with the following 1871 Census Sunderland. Eleanor Ann Robson Widow age 38 Douglas aged 11 born Sunderland Eleanor age 8 born Hartlepool John age 5 born Hartlepool Regards Allan Robson

Would SKS have access to the 1851, or preferably, 1861 census? I am trying to confirm details of the family of Joseph Vincent who was born in Sunderland some time before 5 Feb, 1845. His parents were John (minister and fruit merchant?) and Eliza. If also possible, I would love similar information on the family of his wife, Sarah Jane Johnson, who was born 5 Jan, 1843 in Newcastle upon Tyne. Her parents were William (draper) and Sarah. This couple was married in Newcastle on 7 Feb 1866, so a later census is not useful. Thanks. Ron Hancock Toronto, Canada

I have a JAMES EDWARD ATESS in my family. He died in Tasmania in 1898 in a mining accident. His place of birth on his marriage certificate is Sunnybrow, Durham. He was a widower. ATESS appears to be very much a Durham name. Searching the 1901 Census, I could not find any anywhere else! He was born c 1856 if his age at marriage and death are correct on the certificates. So far, I cannot find it. Any help would be appreciated. Thankyou..............Shirley (Australia)

I am researching both the EDMONDS and CASTLE families from Brandeburton and Beverley. My Great Grandmother was Sarah Sophia CASTLE b. 1861 and I would love to find someone else researching the same family. Her parents were Hannah Edmonds and Francis Castle but know very little about them, also I think Sarah had at least one brother named Henry Edmond. Regards Lyn Tregilgas South Australia

ATESS appears to be very much a Durham name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were only seven Atess in the 1881 Census all in Aukland. Dwelling: 9 North St Census Place: Whitworth, Durham, England Source: FHL Film 1342183 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4922 Folio 21 Page 35 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wm. ATESS M 33 M Bp Auckland, Durham, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Elizth. ATESS M 30 F Sunderland Rel: Wife Elizabeth ATESS 10 F United States Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar John W. ATESS 7 M Oakenshaw, Durham, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar James ATESS 5 M Oakenshaw, Durham, England Rel: Son Mary E. ATESS 3 F Brandon, Durham, England Rel: Daur Margt. J. ATESS 1 F Brandon, Durham, England Interestingly Elizabeth was born in the USA! Free BMD has these entries: Births Jun 1846 Atess William Auckland 2420 Births Jun 1871 Atess Caroline Auckland 10a212 Atess John Auckland 10a257 Births Mar 1873 ATESS Rebecca Durham 10a427 Births Sep 1875 Atess Joseph Durham 10a489 Births Mar 1876 Atess Margaret Auckland 10a223 Births Dec 1880 ATESS Thomas Durham 10a345 It could be that there are entries between 1846 and 1871 have not been transcribed, so you could try 1837online.com. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

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In a message dated 22/11/2004 02:29:47 GMT Standard Time, bede@ns.sympatico.ca writes: It may be worth looking at BUTCHER SHOPS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were no Butchers called Hogg in the 1894 Directory, and no Hoggs in the list of Trades and Professions. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org