Sorry, Paul, but none of this information offers a connection. "My" Allisons were mainly shipbuilders/brewers/soldiers/engineers. That's not to say that there is no collateral relationship somewhere, but I think we'd need to get much further back to find it, if it exists. There is another Allison family in Whitburn, who were apparently builders. There may even be some still there. Once again though, and sadly, I'm afraid I cannot establish any connection with them. I basically know all the Allisons from about 1790, with a possible gap in the 1860's. I get very frustrated, though, that there now seems to be not a single Allison in the whole of Tyne and Wear who is related to me! Aye, Clifford. ______________________ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hood [mailto:PaulHood@newmanandbond.co.uk] Sent: 15 December 2004 09:01 To: clifford-allison@supanet.com Subject: Allison Dear Clifford I have looked up the marriage cert and the information contained is as follows; Edward Hood married Mary Allison on the 2nd of July 1900 at Walker parish church. Mary's father was John Allison a Carpenter by trade, their address was 166 Byker Street, (I can only think it is Walker). One of the witnesses was a Louisa Allison, probably Mary's sister. Does this tie up with any information you have. Paul

Could some one on this list please tell me if a marriage cert. from 1800 is likely to have the maiden name of the bride. Jim Cleary, Napier, N Z

edward Limpsfield,Surrey asks for help with causes of death on a death certificate: 1: Chronic interstitial Nephitis - this is Chronic Nephritis or inflammation of the kidney which causes uraemia characterised by debility, nausea,loss of appetite & weight, anaemia,drowsiness & convulsions.Associated high blood pressure may cause blindness, strokes and heart failure. 2: Cardiac ? ( degeneration or desperation or despueration) Probably degeneration - a modern definition would be Congestive Heart Failure or Left Ventricular Failure - in any event this is Heart Failure due to Kidney disease. 3: Syncope - dizziness or fainting, short periods of collapse or unconsciousness due to lack of oxygen reaching the brain - associated with a sudden drop in blood pressure. Often called Transient Ischaemis Attacks or TIAs - mini-strokes - often a precursor of a full blown stroke. Hope this helps! Marie in Scotland

On the copy of an original Birth cert. that I received today, there is an abbreviation in the left hand margin which looks like: 'Inm' with what appears to be an initialling beneath it, and what might be a large 'tick' next to it. The child is the 12th in a family, so it's not an illegitimacy abbreviation, and the date of the birth is in 1887 Grateful for any suggestions or assistance. Mar sin leat edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

I have tried all the usual websites (although for some reason I can't log on to the Paul Smith one), but would be grateful if someone might be able to help me with interpreting a difficult word please? My GG grandfather's causes of death are: 1. Chronic Interstitial Nephitis 2. Cardiac (and the following is the word I'm struggling with) Degeneration? Desperation? Despueration? 3. Syncope Thanks in anticipation edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Thanks to all who responded to my query on this address. I now believe it was the name of the family's house, although unfortunately I can't PROVE it! Mar sin leat edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Dear David, Thank you so very much, at last I am making some headway. It is so very kind of you to offer to send them and if this is possible I would be delighted. If not, then just the Film Number and Folio would suffice. I can print it out the next time I make a trek up to The Family Record Centre in London. Again, thank you for your time and effort on my behalf, I am so grateful. Kind regards, Marjorie

Marjorie, If I have the correct family then I have found him in 1871. On 2 images - let me know if you want them sending. Note that Frederick is also listed as "son" in the 1871 - with other young children. David. John Hall, 48 Isabella Hall, wife, 43 Isabella, 19, daur Ellen, 11, daur John, 9, son Louisa, 6, daur Edith, 3, daur Elizabeth, 2, daur Frederick, 8mths, son Margenlw@aol.com wrote: >Hello David, > >Thank you so much for your speedy response. > >Unfortuntely I do not have any siblings of this Frederick as he was the >illegitiate son of a Mary Ann Hall. > >I have him on the 1881 living with his grandfather, John Hall, and listed as >a son of the family. > >Again, many thanks for your interest. > >Regards > >Marjorie > > >==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== >Sunderland.com >http://www.sunderland.com/ >Sunderland Echo >http://www.sunderland-echo.co.uk/ > > > > -- *Old Historical Books on CD.* Trade Directories, Maps, County & Local Interest. http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/ Free old UK & Ireland maps online. Your Maps Online http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk <http://www,yourmapsonline.org.uk> *The *NEW* Your Maps Online CD-2* Extensive preview page on the website. -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 15/12/2004

Marjorie, Have you any more family names? Father, brothers etc? Maybe they have been mis-transcribed. David. > >My quest is for information concerning the Hall family who were Masons in the >early 1800's and a Frederick Hall born in 1870 who I cannot find on the 1871 >census. > >Many thanks for your time and a Happy Christmas to you all. > >Regards, > >Marjorie >(Surrey) > > > > > >==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== >To post to the list, messages should be sent to >ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com > > > > -- *Old Historical Books on CD.* Trade Directories, Maps, County & Local Interest. http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/ Free old UK & Ireland maps online. Your Maps Online http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk <http://www,yourmapsonline.org.uk> *The *NEW* Your Maps Online CD-2* Extensive preview page on the website. -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 15/12/2004

Hello David, Thank you so much for your speedy response. Unfortuntely I do not have any siblings of this Frederick as he was the illegitiate son of a Mary Ann Hall. I have him on the 1881 living with his grandfather, John Hall, and listed as a son of the family. Again, many thanks for your interest. Regards Marjorie

Good Morning Listers, After seeming to run around in circles I have decided that I really do need some expert advice, guidance and help researching the Hall family in Sunderland. After browing all your old letters and sending off for various fiche (£50 worth) in the hope that I may find an answer to my problem, I now feel that I must ask for help. Firstly, can someone reccommend a researcher who can copy a Baptism record for me? Secondly, I have a Durham fiche of 'Bonds, Affiliation Orders, Examination Cerificates and Warrants relating to Bastardy to 1895' and wondered if this is a comprehensive list. Thirdly, does anyone know anything about a house called 'High Barnes' which was on the Chester Road in 1871? My quest is for information concerning the Hall family who were Masons in the early 1800's and a Frederick Hall born in 1870 who I cannot find on the 1871 census. Many thanks for your time and a Happy Christmas to you all. Regards, Marjorie (Surrey)

Thanks Stan. In 1901 they were in Clayzey Terrace, and there is no number on the certificate which is a bit of a pest!! Mar sin leat edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

In a message dated 15/12/2004 22:40:51 GMT Standard Time, Epaxton@aol.com writes: I have just received a Death certificate for my GG grandfather in 1908, who is recorded as having died at Hillfield House, Deptford Terrace. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Edward, I can find no reference to a Hillfield House in Deptford Terrace, is there a number given? Is he listed in the 1901 Census, as this could give a clue? Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org

Is there any lister who can please assist with a marriage lookup for James Coates Born 1828 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England to Mary Jane Briggs Born 1836 BishopWearmouth, Durham, Sunderland. Possibly around 1855-1857 as Daughter Jane Caroline Coates was born 1857. Jane Caroline was born 41 Cumberland Street, BishopWearmouth 13th April, 1857. Mary and Jane left for Australia 1858 aboard the vessel "Shooting Star" leaving Liverpool 16th September, 1858 arriving Melbourne 11th December 1858. We believe that James arrived earlier in 1858. Regards, Jeff Perth West Aust 15th Dec, 2004

I have just received a Death certificate for my GG grandfather in 1908, who is recorded as having died at Hillfield House, Deptford Terrace. A Google search has produced no information on what this address might have been. Can anyone help? Was it a 'poor house'? 'nursing home'? or were these houses substantial enough to merit their own names? eg 'Dun Roamin'!! Many thanks Mar sin leat edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Peter, Do you know the parents of your Robert Grieveson at all? My GGMother was Grace Grieveson who was born in 1850 at Gateshead. Her parents were Robert Grieveson and Jane Porteous.I think she also had a sister Jane Ann born in 1851. Tom.

Hi everybody My Great Grandfather was Robert Grieveson born in 1849 in the Sunderland / Monkwearmouth area of Durham. He was, I believe, married 2 (possibly 3) times: 1 to Jane Clephan in 1869 (this is the one I am not sure about) Possible child = Robert born about 1869 2 to my Great Grandmother Catherine Crawford in 1878 in Hendor, Bishopwearmouth Children = Annie born about 1879 Amelia/Emillia 1883 (My Grandmother) Lilian Elizabeth 1883 Edward Crawford 1884 Joseph Henderson 1886 Isabella Fox 1888 Ralph Crawford 1890 Mary Ann 1892 3 to Margaret Ruth Whittaker in 1897 in Hartlepool Children = George Whittaker 1900 My Grandmother and her sister Isabella were adopted by a family member and ended up in Wales around about the turn of the century where my Grandmother met my Grandfather from the Frome area of Somerset. Amelia Grieveson and my grandfather (William Herbert Trussler) were married in Swansea in 1904 I would be most interested to hear from anyone who is interested in any of the above names. Best regards Peter Jones

Hello, Would anyone know the name of the street that replaced Queens Street in 1860's please as I can't find it on recent maps. Regards Sue

Stan, The Pictures in Print site is amazing, do you have addresses for any other gems like this? Regards David Rowntree -----Original Message----- From: Stanmapstone@aol.com [mailto:Stanmapstone@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 4 December 2004 9:10 PM To: ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUNDERLAND] Castle Street In a message dated 04/12/2004 05:32:28 GMT Standard Time, clocksbc@shaw.ca writes: Could anyone tell me the approx location of Castle Street in Bishopwearmouth. The Marriage Certificate (dated Dec 7 1850) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. There is a street map of Sunderland in 1851 at http://aesica.dur.ac.uk/pip/singlezoom.asp?img=p2381&ref1=2252 Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org ==== ENG-DUR-SUNDERLAND Mailing List ==== The Lambton Worm, http://orac.sunderland.ac.uk/lambton.html

In a message dated 05/12/2004 13:16:48 GMT Standard Time, AvrilSteward@aol.com writes: it is now the location of Marks & Spencer...........................Robson's Flour Mill stood there and according to uncle it was the highest building of its day in Sunderland >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Marks & Spencer lies between Cumberland Street and Green Street which is where the pedestrian walkway comes across from the St. Mary's Car Park to High Street, with Marks & Spencer on the West side. Queen Street is the next street going west. There was a small Robson's Mill between Queen Street and Cumberland Street, but I think that the one your uncle is thinking of is the large Robson's Flour Mill which stood just off Old Chester Road and behind Green Terrace, I have an old photo of it and it towers above the surrounding area. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org