One of the interesting things about studying family history is that completely unkown people, probably dead for centuries, relive albeit only for a few instants, while we put them down in our family tree. Thanks Ray for giving a litlle bit of eternity to good old Cy Knott - the spelling is insignificant - but wherever he is I'm sure he's grateful and happy! Don't suppose you were playing for the Westham Wanderers against the Pye Hill Rovers on the Marsh of a Saturday evening? About 20 a side and a pile of odds and ...whatnots for goalposts? Geoff