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    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks
    2. Geoffrey EVEREST
    3. If only you lot would try and read some Hardy (Thomas). In chapter I of the Trumpet Major we have an exact description of their uniforms, and we learn that they are called 'The York Hussars', (foreigners to a man). Can't confirm they were at Radipole Barracks though. Sometimes hard going to read, but Dorset-wise there ain't no better social historian than old Tom (I am allowed this familiarity because I have read all his novels!!). Geoff

    06/16/2003 04:08:00
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks
    2. Paul Benyon
    3. Thanks for posting the info to the list Helen - makes one wonder if this perhaps throws some light on a burial which took place in Bridport around this time for which I received a personal query from Germany some time last year ie: Conrod Plincke 12 November 1804 I'll have to see if I can find the gentleman's address - although it could be another case of 2 + 2 making 5 ;-) Mind - I don't know why I didn't think of this before..........:-( Regards Paul On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:04:15 +0100, Helen Jones <hsj@melcombe.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >Thanks to Paul and Heather for their suggestions about Radipole Barracks - >much appreciated. > >A very big thank you to David Lane who sent me some details from the George >3rd Exhibtion at Weymouth Museum a few years ago. >Apparantly the 'German Officer's' were members of the Hanoverian Army who >came to England at the invite of King George 3, after their own Government >surrendered to Napoleon. They became the Kings German Legion, and the 1st >Hussars Kings German Legion were stationed in Radipole in 1804. > >David 's information tells me that the Hussars were extremely popular with >Weymouth Society, having come from 'good' families! They taught the local >gentry the Viennese Waltz, provided bands and choirs, and proved a great >hit with the local ladies. Indeed between April 1804 and September 1805, >when they left, there were 14 local marriages with the Hussars! > >David's information also informs my daughter that Radipole Terrace was >probably a stable block. The surviving officers quarters are two bungalows >in Alexandra Road, once known as York Villa. > >Radipole Barracks was the largest barracks in Great Britain; by 1804 it >could hold around 1000 men and 1000 horses. > >Thanks again David. I thought I would post this back to the lists because >local history is always of interest. I have certainly learnt a lot. I am >just wondering about those 14 local marriages however....anyone found one >in their research? >Helen > >Helen Jones, Weymouth, Dorset >http://www.melcombe.freeserve.co.uk >List Admin Rootsweb Eng Dorset & Scammell Lists, and >British Genealogy Eng-Dorset, Surnames & Forenames list > > >==== ENG-DORSET-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Look at the website for the Office of National Statistics for information about the census and ordering certificates >http://www.statistics.gov.uk > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

    06/16/2003 03:59:54
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks
    2. Helen Jones
    3. Thanks to Paul and Heather for their suggestions about Radipole Barracks - much appreciated. A very big thank you to David Lane who sent me some details from the George 3rd Exhibtion at Weymouth Museum a few years ago. Apparantly the 'German Officer's' were members of the Hanoverian Army who came to England at the invite of King George 3, after their own Government surrendered to Napoleon. They became the Kings German Legion, and the 1st Hussars Kings German Legion were stationed in Radipole in 1804. David 's information tells me that the Hussars were extremely popular with Weymouth Society, having come from 'good' families! They taught the local gentry the Viennese Waltz, provided bands and choirs, and proved a great hit with the local ladies. Indeed between April 1804 and September 1805, when they left, there were 14 local marriages with the Hussars! David's information also informs my daughter that Radipole Terrace was probably a stable block. The surviving officers quarters are two bungalows in Alexandra Road, once known as York Villa. Radipole Barracks was the largest barracks in Great Britain; by 1804 it could hold around 1000 men and 1000 horses. Thanks again David. I thought I would post this back to the lists because local history is always of interest. I have certainly learnt a lot. I am just wondering about those 14 local marriages however....anyone found one in their research? Helen Helen Jones, Weymouth, Dorset http://www.melcombe.freeserve.co.uk List Admin Rootsweb Eng Dorset & Scammell Lists, and British Genealogy Eng-Dorset, Surnames & Forenames list

    06/16/2003 02:04:15
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks, Weymouth
    2. Heather
    3. Hi Helen Weymouth, An Illustrated History by Maureen Boddy and Jack West ISBN 0 946159 15 9 has several mentions (a single line or two here and there) of Radipole Barracks but, on page 78 there is a small reproduction of a plan of Dorchester Road area in 1857, showing the site of the former Radipole Barracks. It may be of help. Heather > > From: Helen Jones <hsj@melcombe.freeserve.co.uk> > Subject: [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks, Weymouth > > My daughter's new boyfriend lives in one of the old cottages called > Radipole Terrrace, off Dorchester Road in Lodmoor Hill, Weymouth, which > are all that remain of Radipole Cavalry Barracks............. > Can anyone tell me more about Radipole Barracks........... > Thanks for any help > Helen > I transcribe for FreeCen. Interested? Check Out the Website - http://freecen.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

    06/16/2003 06:33:28
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Radipole Barracks, Weymouth
    2. Helen Jones
    3. My daughter's new boyfriend lives in one of the old cottages called Radipole Terrrace, off Dorchester Road in Lodmoor Hill, Weymouth, which are all that remain of Radipole Cavalry Barracks and Parade Ground which was in existence (I think) 1798-1828, according to Eric Ricketts "The Buildings of Old Weymouth, vol 2". Ricketts says that these cottages were probably the Officers living quarters and were also known as the 'German Officers' bungalows. My daughter is really keen to find out more about the history of these cottages, and, as I am always delighted whenever she shows any interest whatsoever in any aspect of local history, I am trying to help. But.....I am stuck. I have a large collection of books on Dorset in general and Weymouth in particular but can only find passing references to the barracks. Ricketts is the only book which actually mentions the cottages. I must confess that so far I have only researched from home and haven't tried the Record Office or Library through complete lack of time. Someone told me that there was an article in an old Dorset Year Book, possible by George Lanning and possibly published in the 1980s but I have not been able to track this down either. Can anyone tell me more about Radipole Barracks and/or the cottages or point me in the direction of local source material? Also why were the cottages sometimes called 'The German Officers Bungalows' other than presumably they were allocated to German Officers! Thanks for any help Helen Helen Jones, Weymouth, Dorset http://www.melcombe.freeserve.co.uk List Admin Rootsweb Eng Dorset & Scammell Lists, and British Genealogy Eng-Dorset, Surnames & Forenames list

    06/16/2003 03:51:12
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Census Indexes
    2. Helen Jones
    3. If you are looking for ancestors in Weymouth and Dorchester in 1841, you may be interested to know that the Somerset and Dorset FHS have now published the 1841 census indexes for these towns: Weymouth is vol 3 and includes Melcombe Regis, Weymouth, Wyke Regis, Weymouth Cavalry Barracks and Weymouth Workhouse Dorchester is vol 6 and includes Bradford Peverell, Charminster, Dorchester All Saints, Dorchester St Peters, Dorchester Union House, Dorchester Barracks, Fordington, Stinsford, Stratton, West Stafford, Winterbourne Abbas, Winterbourne St Martin, Winterton Steepleton. There are also 4 publications covering the Bridport area. They are available in booklet form, fiche and floppy disc. This is part of an on-going project which hopes to be completed within the next year, followed by a searchable all-county CD rom as per 1851 and 1891. Please see the publications page of the website http://www/sdfhs.org for prices and ordering details. It is a good idea to bookmark these pages and look at them from time to time as all new publications or additions to the book store are added within a couple of days of publication/acquisition As many of you know, I am a member of both the Family History Societies (Somerset and Dorset and Dorset) and am happy to support and promote both groups equally by posting about their new publications, meetings etc. Helen Cross posted to Eng-Dorset@British-Genealogy Helen Jones, Weymouth, Dorset http://www.melcombe.freeserve.co.uk List Admin Rootsweb Eng Dorset & Scammell Lists, and British Genealogy Eng-Dorset, Surnames & Forenames list

    06/16/2003 03:39:30
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Market Days
    2. Michael Cheeseman
    3. G'Day What places in Dorset still have traditional Market days. When are they held, how often and were certain market places popular for one particular reason in the past? Was there a certain market for sheep, another for cattle, did you have to travel to another market to get a pair of shoes, Would you get all your foodstuffs locally or travel to special markets for certain goods? What places were renowned for rope making, which ones for gloves etc Hats were worn everywhere by our ancestors, milleners worked at home or were certain places preferred for your headgear. How long did the practice of being buried in Woollen last? How long would a widow wear black, what was a reasonable mourning period if you had a young family. Did Dorset have any particular Funeral rites different to other counties. Are festivals still held. What games are particular to Dorset? regards Michael Cheeseman Descended from Bartlett, Bunter, Chant, Down, Hile/Hyle, Noakes, Nossiter, Pike, Rogers, Weare, William(s) in Dorset. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/06/03

    06/12/2003 04:43:04
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Fire at Broadwey - Southern Times March 1871 Should Read NOVEMBER
    2. Heather
    3. Sorry, tried to change history! Heather > > From: Heather <mygenealogy@fsmail.net> > Subject: [DOR-LIFE] Fire at Broadwey - Southern Times March 1871 (Many names mentioned) > > Transcribed by Heather Carbis from- > > The Southern Times published Saturday 11 November 1871 > FIRE.- Early of Saturday morning, between seven and eight o'clock, three cottages in the village, the property of Mr. BOWDITCH, were burnt down. I transcribe for FreeCen. Interested? Check Out the Website - http://freecen.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

    06/12/2003 06:51:50
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Fire at Broadwey - Southern Times March 1871 (Many names mentioned)
    2. Heather
    3. Just a note to let Listers know these "Snippets" and BMD Notices are from my own personal transcription work and are as they appear in the newspaper (except where I have used capitals for surnames in mid report). Also unless stated otherwise I have no further information - Saying that I hope there is still something amongst them that may help/interest someone. Heather Transcribed by Heather Carbis from- The Southern Times published Saturday 11 November 1871 FIRE.- Early of Saturday morning, between seven and eight o'clock, three cottages in the village, the property of Mr. BOWDITCH, were burnt down. The buildings, all thatched, were situated on the Dorchester-road. The flames commenced on the thatched roof of the house occupied by Mr. Robert HUSSEY, and as a strong easterly wind was prevailing at the time they spread with rapidity. Several of the villagers were soon at the spot, buckets of water being freely applied to the inflammable material, but not withstanding their strenuous efforts, the adjoining house, occupied by a Mr. E. BILKE, shoemaker, was soon all ablaze, and the heat being so intense that the water was comparatively of little use ; the flames likewise spread to George BURT's cottage, and soon the three buildings in succession were razed to the ground. Excepting some bedsteads, all the furniture was saved-thanks for this go to several kind friends who rendered prompt aid on the occasion. Amongst them may be m! entioned-the rector of the parish, Rev. E. HEADLAND, Mr. W. SYMONDS, Mr. HARVEY, Mr. F. W. PASHEN, Mr. J. ATKINS, Messrs. A. and C. CHALKER, Mr. F. BOWDITCH, Mr. J. TOWNSEND, Mr. R. CHURCHILL, Mr. NATION, Mr. W. PARSONS, Mr. ROGERS (the Swan), Mr. R. ROGERS, Mr. F. GROVES, Mr. J. SYMONDS and sons, Mr. R. GROVES, Mr. SHEPHERD, and Mr. J. THOMAS. We regret to report that Mr. Bilke lost about £10 worth of leather ; he states that three £5 notes were also burnt. The property destroyed is estimated to be worth about £300. It was all insured, as was also the furniture of Mr. Bilke. It should be added that P.C. BAGGS, of the County Police, rendered useful service in keeping watch on the furniture. The kind-hearted rector, one of the foremost to give assistance, invited the sufferers to breakfast, while Mr. LUCKHAM, also provided refreshment for those engaged in subduing the flames. The following families were burnt out of their homes :- Robert Hussey, wife and three children ! ; Edward Bilke and apprentice ; George Burt, wife and five children. Doubtless a subscription-list for the relief of the sufferers will at once be opened. The origin of the misfortune was attributed to a spark from a chimney. I transcribe for FreeCen. Interested? Check Out the Website - http://freecen.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

    06/12/2003 06:46:28
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Church Bells and Traditions
    2. Paul Benyon
    3. I can remember as a tot, on a hot summer's evening, having been sent to bed at what was then a seemly hour, (when children should be seen, but not heard), so it would have been about 7 pm, and listening, two nights a week, to the bell ringers practicing their various peels for 2 hours or so. This would have been just after the war, and I can remember muttering something about them keeping me awake, to which my mother told me in no uncertain terms that when I was older I would learn to appreciate them, and that after 6 years of silence it was something that every one in the village was enjoying - again. In later years, before joining the navy, I went along to learn "the ropes". Thinking back, I have a feeling that those bells were being rung with a certain gusto that one doesn't often hear today, when perhaps the quality of the ringing is of more importance than enthusiasm ; perhaps the sheer enjoyment of doing something they enjoyed - as if they were sending a message after those long silent years. But the bell that really used to irritate was the Town Hall bell in Bridport - when we lived there for a short period in the late 1940s my bedroom was very close to the clock tower and it never failed to wake me at midnight ;-) Regards Paul On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:13:41 +0800, Michael Cheeseman <forever_fossicking@bigpond.com> wrote: >Wow what a fuss > >and to think here in Western Australia our government spent millions on a >glass bell tower to house a set of 14th century London church bells that now >ring every hour. > >I think bells ringing out across the rural countyside is a traditional >aspect >of local history that attracts tourists. Otherwise why would we spend >millions >on them here for that very purpose. > >It amazes me how much history is in the UK and how much it is taken for >granted. >Tourism is a hugh industry and with the Mad Cow disease, US attacks, Bali >bombings, >SARS and terrorist alerts every other day many are realising just how >important a >industry it is these days as numbers of tourists drop to never before seen >levels >and as the money they bring into a country dries up. > >The things that attract us English descendants and many ex pat Brits as well >as >peoples from all over the world to visit the UK are the old traditions, the >heritage, >the atmosphere. I'm sure many would prefer a traditional bell ringing on >holiday, >when many of us are living under a airport flight path, near a busy city >commuter >rail line or near busy heavy traffic roads in hugh cities where the general >busy >city noises are constant and loud. It's the differences compared to where >you live >that making holidays interesting. Why change things to be like everywhere >else. >Wouldn't be any point in visiting Dorset then if it was like back home. > >I saw a show recently where a English town closes it's streets to play a >ball game >through the centre of town for a day. Now you dont see that everyday. I >guess some >though would no doubt complain about that tradition as well. What other >great >traditions are there in Dorset towns. I for one would love to hear about the >sorts of things our ancestors thought nothing of as common everyday things. >Hearing >about them might just entice some to visit Dorset soon one day <g>Id > >Great about the praying in the field 'angelus' bit Geoff. Wonder how many >times >my ancestors went down on their knees on recently plowed dirt to rest their >weiry bones a bit and pray. They must have been thankful for that tradition. >No >lunch or coffee breaks back then, couldn't just go for a quick smoke I'm >sure. The >farmer would have sacked them on the spot. Must have been back breaking >work starting at sun-up and finishing at sun down in all sorts of weather. >Definately >makes you respect the hardships our ancestors went through to create our >pampered >lifestyles today. > >regards > >Michael Cheeseman >Member of the X-Generation or is it a dot.comer >anyway a traditionalist/history nut and mad scientist (odd mix I guess) > > > > > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/06/03 > > >==== ENG-DORSET-LIFE Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from ENG-DORSET-LIFE Digest mode send a message to >ENG-DORSET-LIFE-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with just the word unsubscribe in the subject line and message body. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 50.33.50N 02.26.70W http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html

    06/12/2003 06:09:39
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Church Bells and Traditions
    2. Michael Cheeseman
    3. Wow what a fuss and to think here in Western Australia our government spent millions on a glass bell tower to house a set of 14th century London church bells that now ring every hour. I think bells ringing out across the rural countyside is a traditional aspect of local history that attracts tourists. Otherwise why would we spend millions on them here for that very purpose. It amazes me how much history is in the UK and how much it is taken for granted. Tourism is a hugh industry and with the Mad Cow disease, US attacks, Bali bombings, SARS and terrorist alerts every other day many are realising just how important a industry it is these days as numbers of tourists drop to never before seen levels and as the money they bring into a country dries up. The things that attract us English descendants and many ex pat Brits as well as peoples from all over the world to visit the UK are the old traditions, the heritage, the atmosphere. I'm sure many would prefer a traditional bell ringing on holiday, when many of us are living under a airport flight path, near a busy city commuter rail line or near busy heavy traffic roads in hugh cities where the general busy city noises are constant and loud. It's the differences compared to where you live that making holidays interesting. Why change things to be like everywhere else. Wouldn't be any point in visiting Dorset then if it was like back home. I saw a show recently where a English town closes it's streets to play a ball game through the centre of town for a day. Now you dont see that everyday. I guess some though would no doubt complain about that tradition as well. What other great traditions are there in Dorset towns. I for one would love to hear about the sorts of things our ancestors thought nothing of as common everyday things. Hearing about them might just entice some to visit Dorset soon one day <g>Id Great about the praying in the field 'angelus' bit Geoff. Wonder how many times my ancestors went down on their knees on recently plowed dirt to rest their weiry bones a bit and pray. They must have been thankful for that tradition. No lunch or coffee breaks back then, couldn't just go for a quick smoke I'm sure. The farmer would have sacked them on the spot. Must have been back breaking work starting at sun-up and finishing at sun down in all sorts of weather. Definately makes you respect the hardships our ancestors went through to create our pampered lifestyles today. regards Michael Cheeseman Member of the X-Generation or is it a dot.comer anyway a traditionalist/history nut and mad scientist (odd mix I guess) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/06/03

    06/12/2003 05:13:41
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Dorset traditions
    2. brihod
    3. Perhaps for those that don't live in Dorset or the UK this may explain some of the problems faced by Incomers as they seemed to have been dubbed lately. As a Incomer you visit the County for a holiday, maybe more than once. You then decide to buy a property either as a holiday home or to retire to , this makes you very popular with the locals because it pushes house properties up and puts them out of the reach of young local people. A fact of life in Dorset is that whilst wages are among the lowest in the Country house prices and living costs are among the highest. Having moved to your beautiful home in the County you then discover that things are done differently to "back home" this you find is not to your liking so you set about trying to change things to how they are "back home". Among the unpleasant things found...cows and horses aren't house trained, cows in particular walk very slowly along the beautiful country lanes, very inconvenient when you are used to motorways. Cockerels crow in the early morning. Tractors are noisy and are used from very early morning until very late into the evening...they also move very slowly along country lanes and almost fill the full width of them, very interesting when you are driving in the opposite direction at speeds better suited to motorways. The cattle and sheep are not put into fields for your dog to chase and yes farmers own shotguns and they are entitled to use them on dogs worrying livestock. I could go on but I feel that I am starting to sound like a cynic. Regards Brian Hodder Born and Bred in Dorset, who apart from 10 years in the Royal Navy has always lived in the County and would want to live no where else, cows, tractors and quaint customs included All attachments have been scanned for virus' before transmission

    06/12/2003 05:05:44
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells
    2. Geoffrey EVEREST
    3. I must admit you scored a point there, Michael! I think the bell was almost certainly run at sunrise. In Helen's original message that started all this fun she mentions 7am, so we can be pretty sure that the time had already been back an hour or two by the 'oldies'! If they ring from May to September it's because these are the longest and busiest days of the farming year. No BST, GMT, CET or whatever. If the sun was up so were you...and at what (real) time does the sun come up in Stoke Abbot on the 21st June? On the other hand I suspect that this was neither a village wake-up system, nor even a call to go to church. Way back - but really way back - the church bell was rung morning, noon and evening calling the workers afield to pray the "angelus" without having to come all the way back to the village. There is a very famous painting with this title by Millet, where a couple of peasants are depicted praying in a field. The angelus is/was quite a long prayer (or prayers) and may explain why the bell is rung for a long time. Even tradition-loving me finds a hundred tinkles a bit heavy-handed! Is there a village historian who can solve the problem? Just a final technical remark to Helen. Curfew = couvre-feu = cover your fires = lights out! So it's only in the evening. Anyone in the streets after the curfew had been rung was by definition up to no good !! Geoff

    06/11/2003 12:39:54
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Putton (Charlestown) Sunday School Prize Giving - Southern Times March 1895
    2. Heather
    3. Just a note to let Listers know these "Snippets" and BMD Notices are from my own personal transcription work and are as they appear in the newspaper (except where I have used capitals for surnames in mid report). Also unless stated otherwise I have no further information - Saying that I hope there is still something amongst them that may help/interest someone. Heather Transcribed by Heather Carbis from- The Southern Times published Saturday 2 March 1895 PUTTON (Charlestown) BAPTIST SUNDAY SCHOOL.- There was a "full house" on Wednesday on the occasion of the annual prize distribution to the Sunday Scholars. Greater interest than usual was shown i the proceedings when it became known in the village and neighbourhood that a presentation was to be made to the organist (Miss COURAGE). The meeting was presided over by the Rev. Greenwood ROBINSON (pastor), supported by Mr. FOWLER (the superintendent) and many friends from Weymouth. The school numbers 113 with 14 teachers, of whom eight are from the Weymouth area. The prizes were contributed voluntarily. Prior to the childrens' part of the service, Mr. GODING and Mr. .......* (of Putton) informed the congregation of Miss Courage's six years faithful service to the cause as organist the members and well wishers had subscribed towards a testimonial in the shape of a marble drawing room clock and two large edition music books. The presentation was made by Mr S. J. FOWLER (Weymou! th) and suitably acknowledged by Miss Courage. Prizes were then given to the following scholars :- William PASCOE, William SIMMONDS, George SIMMINDS, Annie STEVENS, Kate BILLEN, Emily LEGG, Alice WALLBRIDGE, Mabel MAJOR, Rose KNIGHT, Eliza CRITCHELL, William LEGG, Benjamin PARKER, Richard PARKER, Richard ROUSELL, Bert MAJOR, Robert WATSON, William BOLT, Robert BUGLER, George STEVENS, Frank BOWRING, James KNIGHT, C. IRONSIDE, E. SAMWAYS, William GIFFORD, Alfred MAJOR, Joseph LEGG, Jesse BILLEN, Theresa BILLEN, Susan PASCOE, Florence COURAGE, Ethel PASCOE, Emma ROUSSELL, Florence KNIGHT, Ethel CRABB, Beatrice WALLBRIDGE. All the infants received an illuminated card each. The choir, under Mr. T. RENDELL, rendered an admirable programme during the evening, and at the close the children were regaled with cake and sent home with merry hearts and happy faces. *Mr. .......* (of Putton) - sorry, name too blurred to read. I transcribe for FreeCen. Interested? Check Out the Website - http://freecen.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

    06/11/2003 12:31:18
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Unsubscribe
    2. It's holiday time!! Yippee! Thanks for all the help and friendship received during the past year. God willing, I'll be back. Iain in Brampton, Cumbria.

    06/11/2003 01:17:15
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells
    2. Michael Fudge
    3. Perhaps they should put them back to the original time of 5am then so the whole village can get on with the farm work which was, I believe, the original reason for them being sounded. That would mean even a few of the "original" locals would complain as well no doubt. Considering Church Bells are one of the few exceptions to legislation on noise pollution, also considering how few people attend church these days, and how few of them wanting them retained live within earshot, I think the village should accept the majority wish and if that means sounding them later in the day then so be it. How anyone from out of earshot can hold a valid opinion on the matter beats me..!! Look on the bright side - Visitors (like most of us in this list) won't have to get up so early to get there to hear them when we visit the place..!!! I happen to live within earshot of Winchester Cathedral bells - Very pleasant for the first few months but a bit wearing after 15 years as they seem to have a limited repetoire..!!! .\.\-i-k-e... Contact via: http://www.fudge-family.com/mail/ Own Website: http://www.mikefudge.dsl.pipex.com/ Fudge Names: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=fudge

    06/10/2003 02:22:14
    1. [DOR-LIFE] Stok Abbott thread
    2. lionhouse
    3. Hi List, All my ancestors moved from one village to another around Devon and over the border into Dorset, I daresay they were regarded as incomers, the settlement certificates and removal orders certainly indicate that they weren`t always welcome !!!! Villages do change and of the six families living in cob cottages at Budleigh Salterton when it was a saltings and fishing hamlet must have both resented the gentry who built wonderful houses up the sea front, and welcomed the jobs these incomers provided, and Salterton today is a seriously busy little town. People have prospered. If people are willing to join in as clearly Ros of Wareham is, then give an inch and welcome them, you cannot know how incomparably better your lives are against those who have the misfortune to live in London, talk to them and show them the cockerel that crows , tell them about the 500 year old bells in the Saxon tower, involve them.....don`t isolate them.

    06/10/2003 04:49:46
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells
    2. Geoffrey EVEREST
    3. Hello Ros Please don't think my outburst was against all newcomers to Dorset, and that I was proning some sort of racial segregation!! As is always the case there is always a handful of "THEM", whose only pleasure in life is spoiling that of other people. Even on the list...but we won't bring that up again! Welcome to Dorset, have a good time and take care of the place!! Geoff

    06/10/2003 04:18:14
    1. RE: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells
    2. pat.williams
    3. Hi Iain How I agree with you and the others about these blasted incomers, in this case the objector is, I believe, Lord Harmsworth, owner of a newspaper group, his lazy-bones holiday tenants don't like the idea of seeing the sea (or anything else) in the mornings. <VBG> Regards Pat W Bruton Somerset Researching Somerset -BEALE-KEEN-BRISTER-WILLIAMS-STOCK-HAWKEY Dorset - KEECH-DUNHAM-ACKERMAN-IRONSIDE-LEA-WALLIS-HOUNSELL-SAINT-RUSSELL-WOODSFO RD Durham - WARDELL-CHAPMAN-METHLEY Yorkshire - JEFFREY-DOBSON-DOYLE-MAUGHAN-CLIFFORD-BARKER-WADE-SWALE-ENGLAND-BECK-WAR DMAN-CARMALT -----Original Message----- From: IHPARSONS@aol.com [mailto:IHPARSONS@aol.com] Sent: 09 June 2003 21:14 To: ENG-DORSET-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells Dear all, Must add my contribution! I always felt that Stoke Abbott was a delightfully English village, free from the corruption of what is laughingly called the 'Home Counties' - they're not my home and never will be! The unspeakable arrogance of these incomers really gets to me. Just because they can afford to buy property at vastly infalted prices, thus preventing the youngsters born in the villages from continuing to live on their native patch, they think they own the world! Exactly the same thing has happened in the Lake District and now the taint is spreading to the whole of Cumbria. House prices have risen alarmingly over the past few years and, once again, the young folkk can't afford to buy. I see no solution, but when Carlisle and the surrounding area becomes commuter belt, what hope is there for the rest of the country? Ring the bells at 7.00 am! If they don't like it, they can move back to their polluted environments in the cities and let the Darzet volk get on with their loives!! Iain, from Brampton, Cumbria, A Dorset exile in the Far North ==== ENG-DORSET-LIFE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from ENG-DORSET-LIFE Digest mode send a message to ENG-DORSET-LIFE-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with just the word unsubscribe in the subject line and message body. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    06/09/2003 04:10:54
    1. Re: [DOR-LIFE] Stoke Abbot Bells
    2. Geoffrey EVEREST
    3. Thanks for the warning Alan, but you can give me the worst, most insulting rude names, but never say I'm political! If I'm living down here it's because that's the way life happens, (and never reveal this to my old lady), but even after 40yrs I still dream of Ringstead Bay, Chesil Beach and the woods near Evershot! I couldn't give a tinker's about which political party they belong to, just as long as they think more about the wonderful places they have been given to take care of, rather than the amount of hard cash an inifinitely small minority can earn out of a block of holiday flats (I spit on the ground) or a caravan camp (ditto). I can hear the holidaymakers saying "aha, but we are making the money for you yokels" - thankee kindly 'cos the other 9 months of the year the county ceases to exist. I think I'll take a Valium or two (or three) because this is a subject that really gets me .... (fill in the blanks) Geoff

    06/09/2003 03:48:41