One of my great grandfathers was John SKELTON - 27.3.1836 baptised Loddiswell - 10.3.1916 died Lower Street, West Alvington, buried 15.3.1916 West Alvington. A photograph of him outside his cottage is on my living room wall. He married Mary NEWLAND - 8.7.1838 baptised West Alvington - 19.11.1880 died West Alvington (buried 24.11.1880). Mary NEWLAND was the daughter of Thomas (a labourer) and Elizabeth It is that Thomas who is my problem. I know that he was married by banns and with the consent of friends on 21.11.1826 to Elizabeth GILLARD in West Alvington (both signed with a mark and were of this parish). The witnesses were William NEWLAND (signed with a mark) and Philip ELLIS Was this William my Thomas's father? If so I also have a William NEWLAND - 23.10.1776 baptised Malborough - who was married 2.4.1799 in Plymouth Charles to Dinah PEARCE. This couple had at least three children:- Mary Pearse NEWLAND - 17.1.1802 baptised South Huish - she married Michael OSBORN - 26.7.1801 baptised Kingsbridge Dinah NEWLAND - 10.3.1810 baptised West Alvington Elizabeth Pearse NEWLAND - 5.5.1816 baptised West Alvington I am aware of four children of Thomas NEWLAND and Elizabeth nee GILLARD - all were baptised in West Alvington and in each case Thomas was described as a labourer 27.5.1827 - John NEWLAND 19.5.1829 - Elizabeth NEWLAND 8.7.1838 - Mary NEWLAND - my great grandmother 8.12.1844 - Ann NEWLAND Regards, Jack Steer Banbury

Hi List, This is a good site if if you are looking for ancestors who died or served in different wars. http://redcoat.future.easyspace.com/index.html Which includes this man. GARDNER - Lieutenant E. W. - 2nd Brabant's Horse Died of enteric at Graaf Reinet. 5th April 1901. Aged 22. Son of Major S.H. Gardner, of Tiverton, Devon. Born 15th May 1878. QSA and 4 bars. Cheers Bev. Edmonds

Hi List, Those with Military History may care to take a peek at this web-site. King's College London Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives Home page http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/home.htm At this URL is a List of names http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/info/index.htm Cheers Bev

Hi All, The old PROCAT site has been overhauled and I have found a lot of new stuff relating to my other names etc. http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.asp Cheers Bev

Hi gang, I have managed to find some time and extract a few more entries from the Exeter Marriage Licences. The years cover 1739-1745 so if you have anyone that you can't place or can't find a marriage for then I may just have something for you. I have concentrated on the area around Stokenham to Totness with a few from Dartington and Buckfastleigh. Cheers Bev

I would love to hear from any descendants of ANDREW CALLARD (born c. 1854), my great grandfather. In 1881 he was living at Truestreet Cottages, BERRY POMEROY with his wifew SARA JANE (nee Hawkins). The only children then were EMMA (Emily), POLLY& WILLIAM H. His age was then given as 26 but it is not unusual for these ages to differ. In 1901, the family was living in St John's Terrace, Totnes. He was aged 49. they had more children by then and living in the household were POLLY, EDITH KATE, JAMES, NICHOLAS & GERTRUDE. EMMA (or Emily) was by then married (to GEORGE WINSOR) and WILLIAM was working away as a groom. Val

Dear all, For all the newbies and for some of us who have forgotten all about this site, it is worth your while to take a look. http://freespace.virgin.net/paul.mansfield1/paul001.html Cheers Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

Tim, One of the children of William STEER and Mary Ann nee DIMENT was Harriet STEER - 21.2.1841 baptised Stokenham, Devon Harriet was married on 23.3.1862 in Stokenham to Robert MITCHELL - 1833/4 born Stokenham. Robert MITCHELL was described as a farm labourer aged 17 in the 1851 census living with his parents Edward and Jane, which is the same household as your Mary Ann. I have some information about Robert and Harriet's descendents. Do you know any more about this Robert's ancestry? Regards, Jack Steer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" <tim.mitchell@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Mary Ann MITCHELL > Hi Bev, > > > > Can you help me with Mary Ann's parents, who were they? She appears on the > 1851 census for Stokenham, aged three, staying with her uncle Edward > MITCHELL b. 1803 in Marlbourgh and his family. Edwards brothers were Robert > b. 1807/1810 (1851 census) > > > William b. 1812, widower (1851 census) > > > John b. 1815 (1851 census) > > > > Williams wife was dead at the time of the 1851 census, and his four children > were born in between 1833-1838, so it's perhaps unlikely that Mary Ann was > his daughter. > > > > Also can you clear up the mystery for me of the wife of a Robert MITCHELL > b.1807/1810 in Stokenham. > > According to the D.F.H.S. print out for marriages 1813 -1837, he married > Caroline MACEY on 27/3/1831. > > In the 1851 census he was married to a Jane b. in Kingsteignton, and > Caroline Macey MITCHELL was his daughter. B. 1838 > > Again in the 1871 census he was married to a Jane b. in Kingsteignton. Do > you think he may have remarried before the 1851 census? Having named his > daughter after his first wife and also his son was called Allen Macey > MITCHELL b. 1835. > > > > Any light you can throw on the subject would be much appreciated. > > > > > Tim Mitchell. (12731) D.F.H.S. > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Bev, Can you help me with Mary Ann's parents, who were they? She appears on the 1851 census for Stokenham, aged three, staying with her uncle Edward MITCHELL b. 1803 in Marlbourgh and his family. Edwards brothers were Robert b. 1807/1810 (1851 census) William b. 1812, widower (1851 census) John b. 1815 (1851 census) Williams wife was dead at the time of the 1851 census, and his four children were born in between 1833-1838, so it's perhaps unlikely that Mary Ann was his daughter. Also can you clear up the mystery for me of the wife of a Robert MITCHELL b.1807/1810 in Stokenham. According to the D.F.H.S. print out for marriages 1813 -1837, he married Caroline MACEY on 27/3/1831. In the 1851 census he was married to a Jane b. in Kingsteignton, and Caroline Macey MITCHELL was his daughter. B. 1838 Again in the 1871 census he was married to a Jane b. in Kingsteignton. Do you think he may have remarried before the 1851 census? Having named his daughter after his first wife and also his son was called Allen Macey MITCHELL b. 1835. Any light you can throw on the subject would be much appreciated. Tim Mitchell. (12731) D.F.H.S.

Sara ... or he might have been a Bombadier in the Royal Horse Artillery. Can send you a scan of a photo of my grandfather Alfred Sidney Wood - born South Pool - who was in the RHA from 1900 to 1920 - if it helps. Sue Rowbotham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Steer" <msteer@ozemail.com.au> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 November 2004 11:06 Subject: Re: [SOUTHHAMS] Army help please? > Hi Sara: If he was a Bombardier he'd have been in the Royal Artillery, MIke. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Sjsudbury@aol.com> > To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Army help please? > > > > I have come across an old photograph of a chap in army uniform, it has his > > name written down but is not dated, judging by the sepia tone and solemn > face I > > am presuming the picture to be 1st world war time, maybe Crimean? Can > anyone > > point me to somewhere that I can a) possibly find army records online > and b) > > how to age the photo, possibly by army uniform. The chap was a Bombadier > so > > I could just find something interesting about him, I presume he was one of > my > > husbands GG Grandmothers brothers. > > > > I think I am a bit off topic so presume any replies should be to me > offline, > > > > Thank you > > > > Sara > > sjsudbury@aol.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >

At 07:14 11/11/2004 EST, Sjsudbury@aol.com wrote: >Strange that the Southams mailing list is working fine yet the Devon one has >been out of action for over a week? Hi Sara, The Devon list is one of many affected by the problems with one of RootsWeb's mailing list servers (LISTS5). The server is currently off-line for servicing. You will find the latest information on the RootsWeb help page <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/> Cheers Joan Rotorua, NZ

Harriet(t) Wills MITCHELMORE was my 1st cousin thrice removed! Unfortunately I have no further information on the various families, except that: William MITCHELMORE was born c1849 not c1838 (Source: 1851 Census HO107 1875 424 13); Alfred W CLARK was born in Aveton Gifford and lived there at Linton Cottage in 1881 (Source: 1881 Census, RG11 2184 23 4). Best wishes John Mitchelmore Hertfordshire England ----- Original Message ----- From: "woollams" <woollams@kiwilink.co.nz> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Mitchelmore//Clark(e)//Hurrell - Aveton Gifford >I am trying to track the family of my 2nd gt grandmother Harriet(t) >MITCHELMORE b. 1828 daughter of William MITCHELMORE and Jane WALLIS of >Stoke Fleming. > > Harriett had 3 sons born in the Kingsbridge Union House. > > William MITCHELMORE b. c1838 (no further info) > John Wallis MITCHELMORE b. 1851 d. 1937 -m Amelia WILTON. > Nicholas Thomas Bell MITCHELMORE b. 1857 d. 1925 -m Sarah BELBEN. (my gt > grandparents) > > In 1862 Harriett married Edward CLARK(E) and had two more children: > > Alfred W CLARK(E) b. c1870 (no further info) > > Eliza Jane Perring CLARK(E) b. 1866 m. Charles Henry HURRELL their > children were: > > Henry HURRELL b. c1892 - d. WWI > Florence HURRELL b. c 1895 > Edith HURRELL b. c1896 > > Harriet died in 1895 the rest of the family are recorded at Linton > Cottages, Aveton Gifford in the 1901 census. > > I would be grateful for any information about the family, especially what > happened to Alfred CLARK(E) and Florence & Edith HURRELL. > > Many thanks > Judy > New Zealand > > > ============================== > New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx >

Sjsudbury@aol.com wrote: > > Matilda Epper 36 from Gottnep > William Epper 34 from Vanyow > From the images, I'd say Totnes and (less certainly) Paignton - and it definitely says Effer as well. Cheers Matthew Baker

Here's Matilda in 1881 (William is dead): Dwelling: 16 Baredon Street Census Place: Kensington, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341008 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0034 Folio 148 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Matilda EFFER W 47 F Paignton, Devon, England Rel: Head Occ: Charwoman Nurse Fredrick W. EFFER 16 M Paddington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Carpenter Albert EFFER 12 M Kensington, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Arthur French ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sjsudbury@aol.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] 1871 census query > Strange that the Southams mailing list is working fine yet the Devon one has > been out of action for over a week? > > I have found a possible branch of my family in London in 1871, they were > Effers but the transcription came through as Epper! However the place of birth > for the head and his wife are in Devon but the enumerator must have just made > the names up! > Can anyone give me an idea what these towns should have been? > > Matilda Epper 36 from Gottnep > William Epper 34 from Vanyow > > The Effer families I have been following come from Paignton, Totnes and a few > parishes on the Dart between Dartmouth and Totnes.

Strange that the Southams mailing list is working fine yet the Devon one has been out of action for over a week? I have found a possible branch of my family in London in 1871, they were Effers but the transcription came through as Epper! However the place of birth for the head and his wife are in Devon but the enumerator must have just made the names up! Can anyone give me an idea what these towns should have been? Matilda Epper 36 from Gottnep William Epper 34 from Vanyow The Effer families I have been following come from Paignton, Totnes and a few parishes on the Dart between Dartmouth and Totnes. All suggestions welcome! Best wishes Sara

Hi Sara: If he was a Bombardier he'd have been in the Royal Artillery, MIke. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sjsudbury@aol.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Army help please? > I have come across an old photograph of a chap in army uniform, it has his > name written down but is not dated, judging by the sepia tone and solemn face I > am presuming the picture to be 1st world war time, maybe Crimean? Can anyone > point me to somewhere that I can a) possibly find army records online and b) > how to age the photo, possibly by army uniform. The chap was a Bombadier so > I could just find something interesting about him, I presume he was one of my > husbands GG Grandmothers brothers. > > I think I am a bit off topic so presume any replies should be to me offline, > > Thank you > > Sara > sjsudbury@aol.com > > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi There Thankyou to everyone that replied to my mail regarding the Creber name. You have been of some help. Regards Vivienne

Many thanks to Beverley, Sandra, Roland, Ray, Michelle & Joan, who have all offered suggestions. However, I am still no further down the track. I have had over 18 different PR's through the LDS thus far & am still searching (not only for CALLARD/DISTIN). I suppose I was hoping to find someone who said "I have a ........ CALLARD marrying a ........ DISTIN" - one can always live in hope!! A further tip for the IGI - if anyone is interested. I searching for a surname, (first name unknown), as well as filling in any, or all of "region, country, state" boxes, one can further refine the search by putting in an event, in my instance, marriage (it will not allow anything more). This reduced the available options of CALLARD & region etc, from 1000's to 419 entries. I have just trawled through those looking at suitable males, but to no avail. Happy hunting John Wareham Central Coast NSW in Oz DEV names: CALLARD, COAD/CODD, COCKRAM, PENWILL, RADFORD & SCOBLE

Sara, <I think I am a bit off topic so presume any replies should be to me offline> I shall press the reply all button, as there may be others who want to rummage amongst the military records. These sites crossed my path a while ago and I have not visited any of them recently and they have sat untouched in my Nicene file. Army personnel records since about 1920 can be obtained from:- CS(R)2B, Army Personnel Records Bourne Avenue, Hayes, Middlesex, UB3 1RF Phone +44 20 8573 3831 British Army records are all in the Public Record Office in Kew. They have been filmed and are available from your local LDS Family History Centre if you have one. www.search.com/search/army.html http://techsearch.cnet.com/s www.help.com/cgi-perl http://download.cnet.com/do Pre-1914 service records are held at the PRO, Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU - http://www.pro.gov.uk British Army in the Great War - http://www.1914-1918.net/ Uniforms - http://www.rfc-rnas-raf-register.org.uk/British%20Military%20Uniform%20Identification%20Service.htm Uniforms - http://killeenroos.com/5/list.html - WW1 Uniforms - http://pobox.upenn.edu/~fbl/phtobrit.html Uniforms - http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~thinred/collection/collection.html Uniforms - http://www.angelfire.com/ga/BobSanders/ARMYLINKS.html - Capitals in this URL are important Military cap badges - http://www.egframes.co.uk/index.html Hope there is something helpful on there somewhere. Regards, Jack Steer ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sjsudbury@aol.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:11 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Army help please? > I have come across an old photograph of a chap in army uniform, it has his > name written down but is not dated, judging by the sepia tone and solemn face I > am presuming the picture to be 1st world war time, maybe Crimean? Can anyone > point me to somewhere that I can a) possibly find army records online and b) > how to age the photo, possibly by army uniform. The chap was a Bombadier so > I could just find something interesting about him, I presume he was one of my > husbands GG Grandmothers brothers. > > I think I am a bit off topic so presume any replies should be to me offline, > > Thank you > > Sara > sjsudbury@aol.com > > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

There are several MITCHELMOREs and WALLISes in the IGI records for Stoke Fleming which should enable you to trace Harriet [Wills] MITCHELMORE's family back a generation and identify some of her siblings. But unfortunately I cannot help you with modern descendants. I have copied this message to the MITCHELMORE-UK list in case anyone there has any links to your MITCHELMOREs. Good luck! Mike Sydney > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:22:39 +1300 > From: "woollams" <woollams@kiwilink.co.nz> > To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Mitchelmore//Clark(e)//Hurrell - Aveton > Gifford > > I am trying to track the family of my 2nd gt > grandmother Harriet(t) MITCHELMORE b. 1828 daughter > of William MITCHELMORE and Jane WALLIS of Stoke > Fleming. > > Harriett had 3 sons born in the Kingsbridge Union > House. > > William MITCHELMORE b. c1838 (no further info) > John Wallis MITCHELMORE b. 1851 d. 1937 -m Amelia > WILTON. > Nicholas Thomas Bell MITCHELMORE b. 1857 d. 1925 -m > Sarah BELBEN. (my gt grandparents) > > In 1862 Harriett married Edward CLARK(E) and had two > more children: > > Alfred W CLARK(E) b. c1870 (no further info) > > Eliza Jane Perring CLARK(E) b. 1866 m. Charles Henry > HURRELL their children were: > > Henry HURRELL b. c1892 - d. WWI > Florence HURRELL b. c 1895 > Edith HURRELL b. c1896 > > Harriet died in 1895 the rest of the family are > recorded at Linton Cottages, Aveton Gifford in the > 1901 census. > > I would be grateful for any information about the > family, especially what happened to Alfred CLARK(E) > and Florence & Edith HURRELL. > > Many thanks > Judy > New Zealand ===== Michael Mitchelmore Sydney, Australia OPC for Chawleigh, Cheldon, Chumleigh, Eggesford & Wembworthy For MITCHELMORE, PHILLIPS, SAUNDERS & TUCKER family histories, visit http://au.geocities.com/m_mitchelmore Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com