Yesterday I posted a request for assistance regarding the marriage of John TARRING and Grace (unknown). This morning I was surprised, and certainly very grateful to receive replies from Arthur French, Sue Slater, Terry Leaman and Sandra Rhodes. All these replies were comprehensive and will, I am sure, prove extremely helpful. My profound thanks. However - it appeared that this elusive couple were in Totnes all the time, so I got out (and dusted) my microfiches of the Totnes PRs and looked again and, at first still couldn't find a marriage for John and Grace Tarring on 1 Aug 1762. There was only one marriage on that day and I therefore read through the entire record slip, which commenced by recording the banns of a couple unknown to me, followed by (you've guessed it) the marriage of John and Grace TARRING. I had thought that each entry slip recorded the Banns, followed by the Marriage of the same couple and feel sure that this has been the case in other records of this sort that I have seen. Am I mistaken? I have been wrong before - just occasionally of course. Do I have to sign myself Poor Barmy Sam? Your comments would be welcome.

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN TARRING Spouse: GRACE DYER Marriage: 01 AUG 1762 Totnes, Devon, England Also, children from IGI: ELIZABETH TARRING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 09 AUG 1767 Totnes, Devon, England WILLIAM TARRING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 22 AUG 1773 Totnes, Devon, England RUTH TARRING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 01 OCT 1775 Totnes, Devon, England FRANCES TARRING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 15 DEC 1776 Totnes, Devon, England RICHARD TARRING - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 DEC 1779 Totnes, Devon, England Best wishes: Arthur French ----- Original Message ----- From: "PE THOMAS" <pe.thomas@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] John and Grace TARRING > Can anyone please offer any help or suggestions in my search for John TARRING and his wife Grace (maiden name unknown) > > I cannot find any record of their marriage in the Totnes PRs, although their daughter Elizabeth was born there in 1767 and she married James TAYLOR there in 1789. > > It would be helpful if someone could tell me the surrounding parshes to Totnes (or of course where I can find them for myself.) > > Regards > > Sam Thomas (new kid!)

Can anyone please offer any help or suggestions in my search for John TARRING and his wife Grace (maiden name unknown) I cannot find any record of their marriage in the Totnes PRs, although their daughter Elizabeth was born there in 1767 and she married James TAYLOR there in 1789. It would be helpful if someone could tell me the surrounding parshes to Totnes (or of course where I can find them for myself.) Regards Sam Thomas (new kid!)

Prouse and Jalland researchers may like to take a look at e-bay - there is a used postcard on there at the moment which may pertain to someones family. Regards Stella

Morning all, Would anyone please have access to the Cornworthy PR's and be able to look for the parents of a Susanna HOLMES c 1822. Regards Bev

Peggy et al, Please note that you should always specify that events after Jun 1837, unless copied from a church register, may have been REGISTERED in the Kingsbridge DISTRICT. They may not have occured in the actual PARISH of Kingsbridge( or the township for that matter ). There were over 30 parishes in the Kingsbridge Registration District and an event could take place in any one. This same proviso applies to other events that may be found in PRO indexes - e.g. Totnes. Ray Osborn Rotorua, NZ Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] DINNIS/DENNIS I have a John Dinnis born 1743 probably at Hallwell, died at Hallwell 1822. He married Elizabeth (unknown) of Stanborough. Their son, Edward, was born circa 1786. He married Sarah Baker in Blackawton 4 April 1809. Sarah died and was buried in Blackawton in 1829. Edward and his children appear in the 1841 census of Blackawton but Edward doesn't appear in the 1851 census. Ray Osborn has a death for Edward Dinnis in Kingsbridge in March of 1848 and feels he probably was buried in the parish of his birth rather than his death. Does anyone have any information about John, Elizabeth or Edward Dinnis/Dennis? Thanks Peggy Henderson pjh44@comcast.net

I have a John Dinnis born 1743 probably at Hallwell, died at Hallwell 1822. He married Elizabeth (unknown) of Stanborough. Their son, Edward, was born circa 1786. He married Sarah Baker in Blackawton 4 April 1809. Sarah died and was buried in Blackawton in 1829. Edward and his children appear in the 1841 census of Blackawton but Edward doesn't appear in the 1851 census. Ray Osborn has a death for Edward Dinnis in Kingsbridge in March of 1848 and feels he probably was buried in the parish of his birth rather than his death. Does anyone have any information about John, Elizabeth or Edward Dinnis/Dennis? Thanks Peggy Henderson pjh44@comcast.net

Bev's posting has encouraged me to ask about my unknown Mary who married Thomas KING. The first child was baptised 1 june 1787 in Loddiswell. Thomas was a Loddiswell boy (bapt 26 Dec 1758, Loddiswell, son of Thomas KING and Jane STEER. I have personally checked, recorded and photographed all KING graves in the cemetery at St Michael and All Angels, Loddiswell, and believe that this Mary died 16 Feb 1845, aged 84 years. Does anyone have any connections that might help me establish the maiden name of this Mary? I haven't found a likely marriage in the Devon PRO files. Rergards Kate from Melbourne Australia

Morning all, One more request. James CLARKE c 1781 of Blackawton married a Judith........? bef 1817. Does anyone know who Judith is, where they married, where she came from and where she is buried please. Best wishes Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

I am looking for the parents of Thomas John [or John Thomas] TRIST c 1854 supposed to be born at Buckfastleigh [1881]. I cannot find him in the PR's. Has anyone any knowledge of this Thomas TRIST? I looked at that the 1861 census Cd but nobody jumped out at me, mind you the first section is very difficult to read. Nothing shows up on Freecen either. I believe he married Matilda HOARE of Dean Prior bef 1880 [FreeBDM is down due to work being carried out on the system] so can't even double check that at the moment. Would love to hear from anyone who knows anything of him. Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

John, I could not find your family on my copy of the 1851 census CD disc. Where did you get your info from? Only yesterday I added a Edward YELLAND to my Tree, he was bapt 1 May 1778 at Ashburton and is the s/o William YOLLAND and Mary. [IGI] This Edward married Margaret BEER on the 7 Jun 1808 at Dean Prior, it was most likely his father William who was a witness along with William BEER. Edward [who by the way was an Excise Officer] and Margaret had 1 daughter that I know of, Mary Stranger Ford YELLAND bapt 1809 at Dean Prior. In 1851 grand daghter Mary OULD aged 19 yrs is living with widowed Edward at Stoke Damerel. I cannot find a baptism for Mary OULD. Does anyone have a connection to this Mary OULD. Is she Mary Stranger Ford YELLAND'S daughter? Cheers Bev -----Original Message----- From: John Yolland <john.yolland@xtra.co.nz> To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com <DEVON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 11 January 2006 5:46 Subject: Re: [DEV] COATS/COATES Details >Hi Syl & Listers > >I have been searching for descendants of a COATES family for a number >of years! > >John James COATES married Susanna YOLLAND at St Andrews PC, Ashburton >on 13 Apr 1842. >There were two daughters born several years later: >Eliza Mary COATES b. 4th Qr 1849 and Frances Elizabeth COATES b. 1st >Qr 1851 in Totnes DRO area. > >The 1851 census shows the following: >John James Coates (35), farmer of 20 acres, wife Susanna (35), >daughters Eliza Mary (1) & Frances Elizabeth (1 mth) all except >Susanna born in Buckfastleigh, living at Broadhempston. (Susana born >in Ashburton) > >This family or any individual members are not found in any subsequent >census or listed in UK marriage or death registers. I am strongly of >the opinion that they emigrated from Devon some time in the early 1850's > >This could allow the birth of a subsequent son c. 1853 on the way to >or after arrival in Australia. > >I would very much like to follow this thread or hear from anybody >who could throw some light on this missing part of my family. > >Regards > >John Yolland >Auckland, New Zealand > >On 11/01/2006, at 2:28 PM, syl.les wrote: > >> I am doing research on my partner's family Leslie Williams, whose >> Grandmother on his Mother's side was Ada Louise Coates who was born >> at Emerald Hill in 1879 and married Robert Louis PREST in 1903 . >> Ada's parents were John George Gardiner Coates (John added an "e" >> to the surname) and Sarah Nash who were married at Walhalla in >> 1876. I have spent rather a lot of time chasing up this John >> Coates as he declared that he was born in Exeter, England on his >> Marriage Certificate but he was in fact born in Collingwood in 1853!!! >> >> John Coates by all accounts was a bit of a "Scoundrel". He said >> that he was a Pharmaceutical Chemist but nothing has been found at >> all to substantiate this. He probably worked at the Gold mine in >> Walhalla and a rumour had it that there was a big "cave in" and he >> helped save several of the men's lives. The last we have heard of >> him is that he was last seen on Melbourne dockside waiting to >> board a ship out of Melbourne in 1898 leaving his family behind!!!! >> He may even have returned to England and started another family. >> He sounds rather "intriguing" and that was what prompted the interest. >> >> His parents John and Mary (Row/Roe) came over from Swansea Wales >> to Australia on the Lady Ebrington in 1853. >> >> If anybody has any information that may help to solve this little >> puzzle, we would love to hear from them. >> >> Syl Griffiths, Qld, Australia >> >> COATS/COATES, West Devon, England >> PREST, Lancashire, England >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== DEVON Mailing List ==== >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> > > >==== DEVON Mailing List ==== >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 10/01/06 > >

Hi Maggie, It was my Luscombe Family Tree. What can I do for you? Doug Brown ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 3 Today's Topics: #1 Thomas Luscombe 30/1/1783 North Hu ["Maggie & Tony Luscombe" #2 YOLLOND/YELLAND ["Beverley Edmonds" #3 TRIST, Thomas John or John Thomas ["Beverley Edmonds" #4 James CLARKE c 1781 of Blackawton ["Beverley Edmonds" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D, send a message to ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D list administrator, Ray Osborn, send mail to ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-admin@rootsweb.com. You are cordially invited to search an informative Web site maintained at Any & all comments/additions/amendments are welcome. ______________________________Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:01:01 -0000 From: "Maggie & Tony Luscombe" <tnmluscombe@tiscali.co.uk> To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thomas Luscombe 30/1/1783 North Huish A couple of years ago I came across a Luscombe family tree on the Ancestry.com web site. It included Robert b. 25/5/1804 in Modbury, Thomas b 30/1/1783. Mostly in North Huish and Ugborough. Does anyone know who the Descendancy belonged to and how I could contact them? Thanks Maggie ______________________________Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:45:52 +1000 From: "Beverley Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: YOLLOND/YELLAND John, I could not find your family on my copy of the 1851 census CD disc. Where did you get your info from? Only yesterday I added a Edward YELLAND to my Tree, he was bapt 1 May 1778 at Ashburton and is the s/o William YOLLAND and Mary. [IGI] This Edward married Margaret BEER on the 7 Jun 1808 at Dean Prior, it was most likely his father William who was a witness along with William BEER. Edward [who by the way was an Excise Officer] and Margaret had 1 daughter that I know of, Mary Stranger Ford YELLAND bapt 1809 at Dean Prior. In 1851 grand daghter Mary OULD aged 19 yrs is living with widowed Edward at Stoke Damerel. I cannot find a baptism for Mary OULD. Does anyone have a connection to this Mary OULD. Is she Mary Stranger Ford YELLAND'S daughter? Cheers Bev -----Original Message----- From: John Yolland To: DEVON-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 11 January 2006 5:46 Subject: Re: [DEV] COATS/COATES Details >Hi Syl & Listers > >I have been searching for descendants of a COATES family for a number >of years! > >John James COATES married Susanna YOLLAND at St Andrews PC, Ashburton >on 13 Apr 1842. >There were two daughters born several years later: >Eliza Mary COATES b. 4th Qr 1849 and Frances Elizabeth COATES b. 1st >Qr 1851 in Totnes DRO area. > >The 1851 census shows the following: >John James Coates (35), farmer of 20 acres, wife Susanna (35), >daughters Eliza Mary (1) & Frances Elizabeth (1 mth) all except >Susanna born in Buckfastleigh, living at Broadhempston. (Susana born >in Ashburton) > >This family or any individual members are not found in any subsequent >census or listed in UK marriage or death registers. I am strongly of >the opinion that they emigrated from Devon some time in the early 1850's > >This could allow the birth of a subsequent son c. 1853 on the way to >or after arrival in Australia. > >I would very much like to follow this thread or hear from anybody >who could throw some light on this missing part of my family. > >Regards > >John Yolland >Auckland, New Zealand > >On 11/01/2006, at 2:28 PM, syl.les wrote: > >> I am doing research on my partner's family Leslie Williams, whose >> Grandmother on his Mother's side was Ada Louise Coates who was born >> at Emerald Hill in 1879 and married Robert Louis PREST in 1903 . >> Ada's parents were John George Gardiner Coates (John added an "e" >> to the surname) and Sarah Nash who were married at Walhalla in >> 1876. I have spent rather a lot of time chasing up this John >> Coates as he declared that he was born in Exeter, England on his >> Marriage Certificate but he was in fact born in Collingwood in 1853!!! >> >> John Coates by all accounts was a bit of a "Scoundrel". He said >> that he was a Pharmaceutical Chemist but nothing has been found at >> all to substantiate this. He probably worked at the Gold mine in >> Walhalla and a rumour had it that there was a big "cave in" and he >> helped save several of the men's lives. The last we have heard of >> him is that he was last seen on Melbourne dockside waiting to >> board a ship out of Melbourne in 1898 leaving his family behind!!!! >> He may even have returned to England and started another family. >> He sounds rather "intriguing" and that was what prompted the interest. >> >> His parents John and Mary (Row/Roe) came over from Swansea Wales >> to Australia on the Lady Ebrington in 1853. >> >> If anybody has any information that may help to solve this little >> puzzle, we would love to hear from them. >> >> Syl Griffiths, Qld, Australia >> >> COATS/COATES, West Devon, England >> PREST, Lancashire, England >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== DEVON Mailing List ==== >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> > > >==== DEVON Mailing List ==== >The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and >the Devon FHS ( http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 10/01/06 > > ______________________________Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:01:11 +1000 From: "Beverley Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: TRIST, Thomas John or John Thomas c 1854 I am looking for the parents of Thomas John [or John Thomas] TRIST c 1854 supposed to be born at Buckfastleigh [1881]. I cannot find him in the PR's. Has anyone any knowledge of this Thomas TRIST? I looked at that the 1861 census Cd but nobody jumped out at me, mind you the first section is very difficult to read. Nothing shows up on Freecen either. I believe he married Matilda HOARE of Dean Prior bef 1880 [FreeBDM is down due to work being carried out on the system] so can't even double check that at the moment. Would love to hear from anyone who knows anything of him. Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide ______________________________Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:04:44 +1000 From: "Beverley Edmonds" <beverley@yourisp.com.au> To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: James CLARKE c 1781 of Blackawton Morning all, One more request. James CLARKE c 1781 of Blackawton married a Judith........? bef 1817. Does anyone know who Judith is, where they married, where she came from and where she is buried please. Best wishes Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

A couple of years ago I came across a Luscombe family tree on the Ancestry.com web site. It included Robert b. 25/5/1804 in Modbury, Thomas b 30/1/1783. Mostly in North Huish and Ugborough. Does anyone know who the Descendancy belonged to and how I could contact them? Thanks Maggie

Morning List, Just thought that I would mention these interesting finds. Ashprington, Devon, England Fiche 5 John ARMSTRONG, a Scotsman and Mary CURTIS married 6 Jul 1735 Exeter Marriage Licences 6 Jun 1831 William POTTER of Guernsey amd Margaret ASH of Brixham 24 Dec 1831 Thomas GRAINGER of S. James, London, clerk & Eliza KITSON of Paignton 9 May 1830 John FERRIER of Perth, Scotland & Rosamund JOHNSON of S. Andrew, minor 16 Apr 1830 Manuel Joze AREIJOS of Lisbon & Elizabeth MORRIS of S. Andrew, minor I only noted these to show everyone how difficult it can be to trace ones family. Hopefully we don't all run up against these brickwalls. Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

Hi. Would someone please be so kind as to look these up for me? Mary Jane Coker, born Ugborough.S.Devon in 1861. Christened at ugborough church on 30th June1861. Confirmation of this needed, plus details of parents, particularly mother. I know she is a Jane, but have two possible surnames! Also William Coker (or Cawker), christened 8th January 1789 married Betty Newman 3.April 1809, all at Ugborough Church. Again I have 2 possible fathers for him. I would be grateful for any details on the records. Thank you, Margaret

Andy, Can you please contact me, I have mis-placed your address. Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

Reginald Becher Caldwell HUTCHINSON, son of Edward Brandreth HUTCHINSON (died 1892) and Carolin Flora nee Cayley, lived at Greystone, Sheepstor, Yelverton in 1934. Any information? Many thanks, Monika Butler

HUTCHINSON, CHURCHILL, Berrynarbor, Ilfracombe I am new to this list and am trying my luck: Harriet Louisa Ann HUTCHINSON, widow of John Ross HUTCHINSON (killed in the Indian Mutiny in 1857) died in 1903 in Ilfracombe. The Rev Reginald CHURCHILL was rector of Berrynarbor on and around 1891. His wife was Caroline Harriet nee HUTCHINSON, daughter of the above. They had a daughter, Elsie K G CHURCHILL, born 1882 in Blandford, Dorset. George William Caldwell HUTCHINSON, son of the above, was an artist (art master at Clifton College about 1890 to 1910), his first wife was his cousin Louisa Catherine Hutchinson (died 1893). He married secondly Florence Eliza Cox. His son Colin Becher Alexander HUTCHINSON was killed at Gallipoli in May 1915 when a private in the Auckland Infantry Battalion. He is listed as being the son of George W Caldwell Hutchinson and Louisa C Hutchinson, of Cranbourne, Carlton Hill, Exmouth", but also of "53 Brannocks Road, Ilfracombe" I am interested in ANY information on the above families, particularly the HUTCHINSONS. Many thanks, Monika Butler

Hi Should anyone be looking for William FORD of Sherford, then here he is in Bristol. St Phillip & St Jacob [Out] 1851 Entry 124 Wade St BRYANT Thomas 39 Mariner Bristol Mary 40 Wife Chatham Kent Elizabeth 14 Bristol Mary Ann 11 Scholar Bristol Thomas 7 Scholar Bristol Henry 5 Scholar Bristol FORD William Father in Law Widow/er 70 Tailor Sherford Devon The closest I can find as a match to this William is William s/o Thomas FORD and Mary [nee WEEKS] bapt 25 Mar 1788 at Sherford. Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia

Arthur, Having trouble with my Server this morning, I keep getting cut off in mid flight, so things are a bit haywire here. South Pool Nicholas born 13 Aug 1787 bapt 13 Sep 1787 s/o Nicholas and Mary Mary bapt 29 Oct 1788 d/o Nicholas and Mary Elizabeth bapt 4 May 1790 d/o Nicholas and Mary Catherine born 27 Mar 1794 bapt 3 Jun 1794 d/o Nicholas and Catherine Richard bapt & Jul 1795 s/o Nicholas and Catherine William bapt 6 Mar 1796 s/o Nicholas & Catherine Now is this the same Nicholas? I think maybe it is. There is a burial in Stokenham on the 21 Nov 1790. Remember that Mary COLE came from Stokenham and it would make sense that she was buried at home in the family plot. There is also an Elizabeth RANDALL buried 17 Jun 1791, is this the young babe that was bapt 4th May 1790, perhaps buried with her mother? Susan bapt 28 Mar 1790 d/o Philip RANDLE and Elizabeth Elizabeth bapt 29 Apr 1792 d/o William and Jane RENDLE There maybe others but at least you now know that there was a Philip RANDLE in South Pool. They did move a lot between South Pool, Stokenham and Sherford. Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide