Thank you very much for giving me the information about SMS nurses. I am very grateful. Yours, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:00 AM Subject: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-D Digest V06 #32

If anyone has access to the parish records for South Brent for the period 1800 - 1820 and could oblige with two simple look-ups could they please contact me off list. Thank you. Bill Gallin DFHS 6480

This is from..... http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/occupations.html "Nurses were in big demand, often providing homecare for the aged and disabled. Up until 1919 anyone could call themselves a Nurse. Putting "Nurse SMS" (Subsidiary Medical Services, i.e. anyone other than a properly qualified medical doctor) on a census form would have been an attempt to indicate that one was properly experienced and employed and not just the woman-up-the-road-who "did". [Rachel Sanerivi]" Arthur French ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Mason" <margaret.mason123@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Occupation > Could someone please tell me what a nurse (SMS) is? One of my ancestors had an unexpected informant on his death certificate. When I looked her up in the 1881 LDS census it said she was a nurse (SMS). I would be grateful if someone could let me know what this means. Many thanks, Margaret

I knew this rang a bell & a search of the Devon list's archives found the answer! This was posted in Aug 2001, from Joan Gaskin (not me). >>snip<< SMS or S M S in 1881 Census SMS stands for Subordinate Medical Service. It is not a qualification nor an occupation as such, but rather a category and you'll probably find that on the actual census page SMS is written in a different handwriting from the rest of the entry. The letters would have been added some time after the enumerator had filled in the form by one of the GRO's clerks as part of the process of analysing the census data. SMS was a category used to cover anyone involved in the medical world who was not a qualified doctor or dentist, or a medical student. Sub-Medical Nurse, ie a nurse taking patient(s) into her own home and being under payment and supervision of a doctor. She would not have qualifications as we think of them today, but would be a well thought of member of her community. They were usually older respectable women. Sometimes they were Nurse (SMS) - sub-medical servant - when they nursed a patient in a patient's own home. >>snip<< this might be of interest:- http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~matthew/work/occlass.htm and use your "find(on this page)" for 'nurse' HTH Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Mason" <margaret.mason123@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [SPAM] [SOUTHHAMS] Occupation > Could someone please tell me what a nurse (SMS) is? One of my ancestors > had an unexpected informant on his death certificate. When I looked her up > in the 1881 LDS census it said she was a nurse (SMS). I would be grateful > if someone could let me know what this means. Many thanks, Margaret > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Could someone please tell me what a nurse (SMS) is? One of my ancestors had an unexpected informant on his death certificate. When I looked her up in the 1881 LDS census it said she was a nurse (SMS). I would be grateful if someone could let me know what this means. Many thanks, Margaret

Philip LAVERS or LAVIS married Elizabeth PENWELL 3 June 1832 Newton Ferrers. He was described in the Marriage Register as sojr. so he came from somewhere else. I am trying to locate his birth details in adjoining parishes. I assume that he could have been born around 1790 to 1815. Alick Lavers lavers@mail.com

can SKS help me I am chasing some shipping details.I am looking for the following shipsfrom Plymouth to Pt Adelaide,Australia, to check the passenger lists for the following names. Earl Dalhousie arrived Aust Feb 1875 from Plymouth, John ,wife Mary, children John and James TOWNLEY Tarquin from Plymouth arrived 1864,Jeremiah BANNON Charlotte Gladstone 1866,Mary BANNON Joseph Somes 1850 Elizabeth HUGGINS and from Hamburg Bielfeld 1855 Joseph TILGNER appreciate your help regards Josie Goolwa Time & Jewellery Shop2 2 Cadell Street, Goolwa SA 5214 Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com

Hi all, I know one or two people are researching the surname GOSS but I can't find anyone in my archives who's working so far back. I've just come across an item which might be useful to someone - it probably qualifies as a "stray" event :-) At Churchstow:- 1701 Apr 10th or 16th James GOSS of Kingston married Sarah BROWN of Alvington Besit wishes, Ray Osborn Rotorua, NZ

Sue, There are 4 Sam(p)son HARRIS's and 1 Sam HARRISS oin the 1841 index on originsnetwork.com. Do you have any ages or places that might help? Best regards. Mike Rendle Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK > From: Susan Dicker [mailto:homemead@btinternet.com] > I'm not sure if this is possible but if there is someone who > has access to the 1841 ships census ( Is there one? ) please > could they have a lookout for Sampson Harris for me. > Sue -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.3/281 - Release Date: 14/03/2006

I'm not sure if this is possible but if there is someone who has access to the 1841 ships census ( Is there one? ) please could they have a lookout for Sampson Harris for me. Sue

Philip, The marriage date is correct. Witnesses were John CRIMP and Roger EDWARDS Fiche 6 entry 7 Bev -----Original Message----- From: Philip Steer <philsture@waitrose.com> To: ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-DEV-SOUTHHAMS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 11 March 2006 8:33 Subject: [SOUTHHAMS] Chivelstone >Can anyone confirm for me that there was a marriage at Chivelstone on 2nd >October 1814 between William Steer Tolchard and Tryphena Gillard ? And if >you can, is there any other information about them on the entry ? > >best wishes, as ever, > >Philip Steer > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 10/03/06 > >

If anyone is aware of any BISHOP baptisms in early PRs for the South Hams Parishes (which are not in the IGI) please let me know. I am happy to buy fiche but there are so many parishes and I don't know where to start. I am looking for the baptism of Thomas BISHOP who married Elizabeth SLUMAN in 1745 at Staverton. The only BISHOP entries in Staverton (apart from Thomas's descendants) are a burial in 1615 (George son of Robert) and couple of baptisms and a burial for children of George in 1691 and 1694. I think George married Jane POMEROY in 1689 at Buckfastleigh, had 2 children baptised in the neighbouring parish of Staverton and then moved to Modbury where they had more children (all from the IGI). It would be interesting to find where George was baptised too, his family include most of the family names in Thomas's family (but no Thomas). If anyone has any idea where I should start please let me know. Best wishes to all from Diana in Perth Western Australia

Can anyone confirm for me that there was a marriage at Chivelstone on 2nd October 1814 between William Steer Tolchard and Tryphena Gillard ? And if you can, is there any other information about them on the entry ? best wishes, as ever, Philip Steer

Hello again, Would anyone have the Modbury PR's or this John TOZER in their Tree? Would love to know if they had children. John TOZER of Modbury and Elizabeth EDMONDS of Brixton...... License to marry granted at Exeter 6 Apr 1745. When did they marry and where? Did they have children baptised in Modbury? Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

Dear all, I am sure someone is looking for this dear old chap. Stokenham PR's Burials Fiche 19 William LAVERS, old Widdicombe Huntsman Buried 29 Jul 1804 Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

Morning, Would appreciate a look-up please if anyone has the Cornworthy PR's. In 1841 I have a Robert c 1827 and Eli EDMONDS c1829 who I assume would be brothers as Farm Servants to Robert DAMERELL at Lower Tideford, Cornworthy. I would love to know who there parents are. Then in 1871 there appears to be a Robert EDMONS [name is all blotched up] but am fairly sure it is meant to be EDMONDS, who is aged 19 yrs [c 1852] a farm servant to Phillip MICHELMORE at Pensford House. I would like to know the names of the parents of this Robert as well please. Regards Bev. Edmonds Toowoomba, Qld, Australia OPC Dartington, Dean Prior, East Allington, Halwell, South Pool, Totnes & Stokenham, Devon, Eng. Looking for EDMONDS, Devon anywhere/anytime GASTRELL, worldwide

The Kingsbridge History Society site at www.kingsbridge-history.co.uk has just been updated, well worth a visit. Regards, Jack Steer Banbury

Hi Chris, Sorry no sign of them in 1841 on originsnetwork.com Mike Rendle Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK > From: Goldstraw [mailto:pcgoldstraw@tca-online.com.au] > My Dark family came to Aus abt 1849 -50. I have an Isaac and > an Edwin. Edwin died at Sorrento in 1900 but it does not list > his parents. Isaac died in 1852 from a gunshot wound he > sustained at Kyneton in Victoria,Aus. > > Isaac was married to Annie Alice Rogers in 1851 and when he > died she married Edwin. > > I was wondering if sks could check the 1841 census please for > these people and any other family members. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006

Hi Everybody I am searching for the CREBER, WATSON, GARDINER names whihch appear in my family tree from Devon area possibly Plymouth. Does anybody have these names in their list? Regards Mary linning

Hi, I'm new to this list. My Dark family came to Aus abt 1849 -50. I have an Isaac and an Edwin. Edwin died at Sorrento in 1900 but it does not list his parents. Isaac died in 1852 from a gunshot wound he sustained at Kyneton in Victoria,Aus. Isaac was married to Annie Alice Rogers in 1851 and when he died she married Edwin. I was wondering if sks could check the 1841 census please for these people and any other family members. Thank you Cheers Chris OZ