Hi Marilyn, I have Simpsons in my tree. My great great grandmother was Hannah Simpson b. abt 1834 in Over Wyresdale Yorkshire, she married Hezekiah Cook Smith and they ran the Vulcan Hotel in Dalton. Her mother was Mary Simpson born abt. 1799 in Lancaster and father William b. 1795 in Over Wyresdale, siblings Thomas William, Joseph, Edward, Mary and Robert Any connections? On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM, <mazzajoy@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Listers, > I would be delighted to hear from anyone related to, or know of any > further info regarding to: > Ja Simpson father of Wm Simpson chr. 5.3.1664, James Simpson chr. > 27.9.1696, Mark Simpson chr. 12.5.1728, Leonard Simpson born 10.5.1750, > Leonard Simpson born 16.1.1788. All born in Dalton. Leonard Simpson chr. > 7.2.1812 St. Peter, Liverpool, shipwright, died Hamilton, New Zealand 1875. > Regards, > Marilyn Simpson. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --

Hi All I am new to the site and am researching information about the Carrick Family. I have the following information: Thomas Carrick b. 1779 married Mary Abbott Thomas Carrick b. 1816 married Hannah Byers - Her father was Joseph Byers b 1795 and mother Eve Sill b 1792 They had a son Jospeh Carrick b 1840 who married Mary Ann Armstrong they had 3 children Hannah, George and Thomas and at some stage they moved to South Africa but I am not sure when. I have records of their death certificates from South Africa. It looks as though by reading the census records that they were from Shap, Lowther, Westmoreland, Cumbria, Penrith. I would like to do a trip up to the area to find out any information or even to see where these ancestors of mine lived any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. Regards Helen Roberts

G'day, Researching the above names, anyone of the list researching same. John Allinsson born 1844 Whitehaven Occupation Borough Scavenger married Frances Robinson 1903 born Egremont. Three children Sarah born 1904 Maggie born 1907 and Robert born 1910 all in Whitehaven. Cheers Graeme

Please can you help me again? I have discovered more about my ancestor Charles Teft Laurence who with his wife Catherine Ann Wright emigrated to Rockhampton, Queensland in 1885. Among their children they had Elizabeth Jane Laurence who married Frederick John Lawson 6th November 1895. They had Catherine Ann born 25 September 1898, Mabel, 24 November 1896; Robert Charles, 13 June 1900; Frederick George, 17 August 1902; and William, 23rd May, 1904. In 1903 her husband Frederick John was working at the Redbank Meatworks, Goodna, along with Charles Teft. He was foreman in the freezer department. I have been unable to find them on any other electoral roll. I have found the children - Mabel, Catherine, Robert, and Frederick living with their grandmother in the 1911 British Census - in Brampton, Cumbria. Please can you tell me more about the children and their time in Brampton. The 1911 census states they lived at 54, Main Street. Thankyou for your time and patience.

Thanks Petra. Jane, the widow, lived until 1881. All her children had left the home by 1859 and she was a 54 year old seamstress then. By 1881 she was on parochial relief in Great Salkeld. The only thing I could think of was maybe she had applied for parochial relief as far back as 1859 and somehow the Letters of Administration could be connected to that. I will try to send for the Letters of Administration and see if there is anything interesting. If there is, I will let you know. Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: June-20-12 2:49 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Probate - Letters of Administration Hi Judy, If letters of administration are granted many years after the death of a person, it is usually because there has been a change in circumstances. Maybe Thomas appointed an executor in his will. The executor did not do his job (or just left Jane to get on with it), then the executor died in 1859, and Jane applied to sort out the affairs of her long deceased husband and daughter legally. Usually this sort of thing happens when the widow of the originally deceased dies, and very often the admon is "with the will annexed". I haven't seen it in a situation like yours! Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Noel" <whitfield@rogers.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:59 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Probate - Letters of Administration I had an interesting hint through Ancestry.com today, Probate records 'Letters of Administration' registered in 1859. They were 'to' my g-g-grandmother Jane Whitfield regarding her husband Thomas Whitfield who had died in 1842 and another 'Letters of Administration' for their daughter Jane who had died in 1849 at the age of 12. Both had effects under £100. It appears that Letters of Administration were granted when the deceased died without a will. Would any of you have any idea why this would be an issue 17 years after Jane's husband died and 10 years after her daughter died, and why would a 12 year old even be in question? It was lovely to find this (like a little hello from them!), but it is so puzzling to me. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Judy in Barrie, Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judy, If letters of administration are granted many years after the death of a person, it is usually because there has been a change in circumstances. Maybe Thomas appointed an executor in his will. The executor did not do his job (or just left Jane to get on with it), then the executor died in 1859, and Jane applied to sort out the affairs of her long deceased husband and daughter legally. Usually this sort of thing happens when the widow of the originally deceased dies, and very often the admon is "with the will annexed". I haven't seen it in a situation like yours! Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Noel" <whitfield@rogers.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:59 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Probate - Letters of Administration I had an interesting hint through Ancestry.com today, Probate records 'Letters of Administration' registered in 1859. They were 'to' my g-g-grandmother Jane Whitfield regarding her husband Thomas Whitfield who had died in 1842 and another 'Letters of Administration' for their daughter Jane who had died in 1849 at the age of 12. Both had effects under £100. It appears that Letters of Administration were granted when the deceased died without a will. Would any of you have any idea why this would be an issue 17 years after Jane's husband died and 10 years after her daughter died, and why would a 12 year old even be in question? It was lovely to find this (like a little hello from them!), but it is so puzzling to me. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Judy in Barrie, Ontario

I had an interesting hint through Ancestry.com today, Probate records ‘Letters of Administration’ registered in 1859. They were ‘to’ my g-g-grandmother Jane Whitfield regarding her husband Thomas Whitfield who had died in 1842 and another ‘Letters of Administration’ for their daughter Jane who had died in 1849 at the age of 12. Both had effects under £100. It appears that Letters of Administration were granted when the deceased died without a will. Would any of you have any idea why this would be an issue 17 years after Jane’s husband died and 10 years after her daughter died, and why would a 12 year old even be in question? It was lovely to find this (like a little hello from them!), but it is so puzzling to me. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Judy in Barrie, Ontario

Thanks for passing it on Petra. The hunt goes on! with intermittence. Leonie. -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:09 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi Leonie, This is the advert: Carlisle Journal, Friday 21 Jul 1854, p. 2, col. 2 "TEMPERANCE" LINE OF PACKETS FROM LIVERPOOL TO AUSTRALIA. Carries a Full Band and a Splendid Library. FOR MELBOURNE, forwarding Passengers to ADELAIDE, GEELONG, and SYDNEY, the Clipper- built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE; A 1, 2,300 tons. This magnificent vessel will land passengers and luggage on the Wharf. She will load in the Canning Dock, Liverpool, and all intending Emi- grants are invited to inspect the arrangements, which have given the greatest satisfaction to passengers from London, and are unsurpassed by any other line. She will sail on the 10th of AUGUST. The Dietary, as heretofore, is sumptuous. Carries a Surgeon and Minister. There are berths from £20 to 30 guineas. For particulars of freight or passage apply to GRIFFITHS, NEWCOMBE, & CO., 66, Gracechurch-street, London, and 13, James-street, Liverpool; or to Mr. JOHN SLACK, Bank-street, Carlisle. However, found this at http://users.xplornet.com/~shipping/ShipsD.htm : DERRY CASTLE - 1855 Master: Captain F. Drake Rigging: Barque; sheathed in felt and yellow metal in 1854; partly fastened with iron bolts Tonnage: 841 tons using old measurements and 941 tons using new measurements Construction: 1852 in Québec, using Oak, Hackmatac, Birch & Pine Owners: Coltart Port of registry: Liverpool Port of survey: Liverpool Voyage: sailed for Australia So this appears not to have been your John DRAKE. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Petra, > The marriage in 1842 is my Great Grandparents. > > John Drake was born in 1818 & received his Mariners Register Ticket at the > Port Of Liverpool on 24th Sept 1838. > > The 21 July 1854 entry is intriguing. As I am only aware of his shipping to > Bombay, India I can't say if this is him or not. Would you mind passing on > the extra info. > > The July 28 1854 may be him. > > He was a Master Mariner & Captain of ship. But which one is a mystery. > > Thank you for this info. I didn't have it. > Leonie. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:25 AM > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > Hi again, > > found this in the Carlisle Journal: > > Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by > the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of > Hail. > > Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool > to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If > that was him, I can supply more details.) > > Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July > 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary. > > There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he > did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. > But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick > up his name correctly. > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > >> Hi Petra, >> I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are >> you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online >> for 1855? >> Leonie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Petra, Correction: John Drake was born in 1816. -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:25 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi again, found this in the Carlisle Journal: Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of Hail. Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If that was him, I can supply more details.) Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary. There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick up his name correctly. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hi Petra, > I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are > you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online > for 1855? > Leonie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Petra, The marriage in 1842 is my Great Grandparents. John Drake was born in 1818 & received his Mariners Register Ticket at the Port Of Liverpool on 24th Sept 1838. The 21 July 1854 entry is intriguing. As I am only aware of his shipping to Bombay, India I can't say if this is him or not. Would you mind passing on the extra info. The July 28 1854 may be him. He was a Master Mariner & Captain of ship. But which one is a mystery. Thank you for this info. I didn't have it. Leonie. -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:25 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi again, found this in the Carlisle Journal: Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of Hail. Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If that was him, I can supply more details.) Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary. There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick up his name correctly. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hi Petra, > I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are > you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online > for 1855? > Leonie. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Petra, I will check it out. Leonie. -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:01 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi Leonie, The British Newspaper Archive website does not have a Whitehaven paper - the Carlisle Journal is the nearest. I don't think the CJ recorded Whitehaven arrivals and departures systematically in the 1830s but they may have done later. The site is at www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ and you can search for free, but to see the papers you have to subscribe, which you can for short or long periods of time at reasonable cost. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hi Petra, > I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are > you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online > for 1855? > Leonie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 3:17 AM > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > Hi Cathy, > > I don't think researching mariners is from the point of view of the basic > research much different from researching ancestry. The problem with them is > that some of the deaths occurred at sea, and that they may have been at sea > on census night. > > Sometimes the deaths at sea will be mentioned in the local newspapers. > > There will be additional resources for mariners like crew lists, shipping > records etc., and one of the list for researching mariners on Rootsweb will > be able to give you advice on that. > > If you give us some details about what you already know and what you are > looking for, we may be able to give some help. > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Trewhitt" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:00 PM > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > > Please can anyone help, I am trying to find how to research > my mariner family's from Maryport. > My Family the CRONE's were mariners from the 1700s > plying between Maryport and Ireland. > I did try the ships meuseum in Maryport, but they could not > help. > I tryed Carlile and White Haven but nothing, I dont know > were to go from here. > > Cathy > Girl from the most likley place in England ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Petra, I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online for 1855? Leonie. -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 3:17 AM To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi Cathy, I don't think researching mariners is from the point of view of the basic research much different from researching ancestry. The problem with them is that some of the deaths occurred at sea, and that they may have been at sea on census night. Sometimes the deaths at sea will be mentioned in the local newspapers. There will be additional resources for mariners like crew lists, shipping records etc., and one of the list for researching mariners on Rootsweb will be able to give you advice on that. If you give us some details about what you already know and what you are looking for, we may be able to give some help. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Trewhitt" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Please can anyone help, I am trying to find how to research my mariner family's from Maryport. My Family the CRONE's were mariners from the 1700s plying between Maryport and Ireland. I did try the ships meuseum in Maryport, but they could not help. I tryed Carlile and White Haven but nothing, I dont know were to go from here. Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As far as I know, you can only search the Carlisle Journal online through the BNA website. Of course you could also search by hand in the British Newspaper Library, Carlisle Record Office or Carlisle Library. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: <user917826@aol.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hello Petra, > > Can one search the Carlisle Journal or does one search it through the > British Newspaper Archives? > > Thanks, > > Bev W

Hi Leonie, This is the advert: Carlisle Journal, Friday 21 Jul 1854, p. 2, col. 2 "TEMPERANCE" LINE OF PACKETS FROM LIVERPOOL TO AUSTRALIA. Carries a Full Band and a Splendid Library. FOR MELBOURNE, forwarding Passengers to ADELAIDE, GEELONG, and SYDNEY, the Clipper- built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE; A 1, 2,300 tons. This magnificent vessel will land passengers and luggage on the Wharf. She will load in the Canning Dock, Liverpool, and all intending Emi- grants are invited to inspect the arrangements, which have given the greatest satisfaction to passengers from London, and are unsurpassed by any other line. She will sail on the 10th of AUGUST. The Dietary, as heretofore, is sumptuous. Carries a Surgeon and Minister. There are berths from £20 to 30 guineas. For particulars of freight or passage apply to GRIFFITHS, NEWCOMBE, & CO., 66, Gracechurch-street, London, and 13, James-street, Liverpool; or to Mr. JOHN SLACK, Bank-street, Carlisle. However, found this at http://users.xplornet.com/~shipping/ShipsD.htm : DERRY CASTLE - 1855 Master: Captain F. Drake Rigging: Barque; sheathed in felt and yellow metal in 1854; partly fastened with iron bolts Tonnage: 841 tons using old measurements and 941 tons using new measurements Construction: 1852 in Québec, using Oak, Hackmatac, Birch & Pine Owners: Coltart Port of registry: Liverpool Port of survey: Liverpool Voyage: sailed for Australia So this appears not to have been your John DRAKE. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Petra, > The marriage in 1842 is my Great Grandparents. > > John Drake was born in 1818 & received his Mariners Register Ticket at the > Port Of Liverpool on 24th Sept 1838. > > The 21 July 1854 entry is intriguing. As I am only aware of his shipping to > Bombay, India I can't say if this is him or not. Would you mind passing on > the extra info. > > The July 28 1854 may be him. > > He was a Master Mariner & Captain of ship. But which one is a mystery. > > Thank you for this info. I didn't have it. > Leonie. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:25 AM > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > Hi again, > > found this in the Carlisle Journal: > > Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by > the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of > Hail. > > Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool > to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If > that was him, I can supply more details.) > > Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July > 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary. > > There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he > did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. > But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick > up his name correctly. > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > >> Hi Petra, >> I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are >> you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online >> for 1855? >> Leonie.

Hi again, found this in the Carlisle Journal: Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of Hail. Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If that was him, I can supply more details.) Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary. There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick up his name correctly. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hi Petra, > I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are > you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online > for 1855? > Leonie.

Hi Leonie, The British Newspaper Archive website does not have a Whitehaven paper - the Carlisle Journal is the nearest. I don't think the CJ recorded Whitehaven arrivals and departures systematically in the 1830s but they may have done later. The site is at www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ and you can search for free, but to see the papers you have to subscribe, which you can for short or long periods of time at reasonable cost. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > Hi Petra, > I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are > you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online > for 1855? > Leonie. > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Petra Mitchinson > Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012 3:17 AM > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > Hi Cathy, > > I don't think researching mariners is from the point of view of the basic > research much different from researching ancestry. The problem with them is > that some of the deaths occurred at sea, and that they may have been at sea > on census night. > > Sometimes the deaths at sea will be mentioned in the local newspapers. > > There will be additional resources for mariners like crew lists, shipping > records etc., and one of the list for researching mariners on Rootsweb will > be able to give you advice on that. > > If you give us some details about what you already know and what you are > looking for, we may be able to give some help. > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Trewhitt" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:00 PM > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s > > > Please can anyone help, I am trying to find how to research > my mariner family's from Maryport. > My Family the CRONE's were mariners from the 1700s > plying between Maryport and Ireland. > I did try the ships meuseum in Maryport, but they could not > help. > I tryed Carlile and White Haven but nothing, I dont know > were to go from here. > > Cathy > Girl from the most likley place in England

Hello Petra, Can one search the Carlisle Journal or does one search it through the British Newspaper Archives? Thanks, Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Petra Mitchinson <Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk> To: eng-cumbria <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, May 1, 2012 4:25 pm Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Hi again,found this in the Carlisle Journal:Saturday 26 March 1842 - Marriages: At Whitehaven, at St. James's Chapel, by the Rev. John JENKINS, Mr. John DRAKE, mariner, to Miss Margaret BRAGG, of Hail.Friday 21 July 1854 - adverts: "Temperance" line of packets from Liverpool to Australia - the Clipper-built Frigate, DERRY CASTLE, Captain DRAKE. (If that was him, I can supply more details.)Friday 28 Jul 1854 - Shipping Intelligence. PORT OF WHITEHAVEN. Sailed: July 23, Greyhound, DRAKE, Port St. Mary.There really wasn't anything else I could find that referred to him. If he did not captain the ship, he would not appear in the ordinary shipping news. But it is also possible that the character recognition software did not pick up his name correctly.Petra----- Original Message ----- From: "B & L Copeland" <lebrac3@bigpond.com>To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:49 PMSubject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s> Hi Petra,> I am seeking info about my Mariner John DRAKE who died at sea in 1855. Are> you able to tell me where I can search for Newspapers of Whitehaven online> for 1855?> Leonie. -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cathy, I don't think researching mariners is from the point of view of the basic research much different from researching ancestry. The problem with them is that some of the deaths occurred at sea, and that they may have been at sea on census night. Sometimes the deaths at sea will be mentioned in the local newspapers. There will be additional resources for mariners like crew lists, shipping records etc., and one of the list for researching mariners on Rootsweb will be able to give you advice on that. If you give us some details about what you already know and what you are looking for, we may be able to give some help. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Trewhitt" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport ships 1800s Please can anyone help, I am trying to find how to research my mariner family's from Maryport. My Family the CRONE's were mariners from the 1700s plying between Maryport and Ireland. I did try the ships meuseum in Maryport, but they could not help. I tryed Carlile and White Haven but nothing, I dont know were to go from here. Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

Please can anyone help, I am trying to find how to research my mariner family's from Maryport. My Family the CRONE's were mariners from the 1700s plying between Maryport and Ireland. I did try the ships meuseum in Maryport, but they could not help. I tryed Carlile and White Haven but nothing, I dont know were to go from here.    Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

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