Hi Liz, On googling, I found a few bits and pieces about the Whitehaven Scientific Association. From: http://www.bookscumbria.com/cgi-bin/trolleyed_public.cgi?action=showprod_5472 about Whitehaven in the 1950s: >> If you wanted to fill your time usefully you might have tried the Whitehaven Scientific Association, established in 1867, but reconstituted in 1950. It offered lectures and outings for a subscription of ten shillings per annum. << From: http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/1901/whitehaven1901_f.html >From Bulmer's History and Directory of Cumberland, 1901: >> The Whitehaven Scientific Association, established in 1866, hold their meetings at the Scientific Institute in Howgill Street. Here is a museum, containing a large collection of various minerals, birds' eggs, etc., etc. << There is a transcribed newspaper article about one of their meetings in 1869 here: http://www.cultrans.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=709&itemid=68 Apparently the collections in the Beacon Museum in Whitehaven are based on the collections started by the Whitehaven Scientific Association. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "liz and john" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Thomas Christopherson > Hi List, > > I am trying to find out more about my husbands Christopherson family. Thomas Christopherson married Elizabeth Pratt 28th October in Ulverston, Lanc. > > The 1881 census for Whitehaven has Thomas Christopherson age 69 Occupation -The Scientific Association. In previous census returns his occupation is cooper > The 1891 census for Whitehaven thomas is 79 and a retired cooper. His 2nd wife Miriam gives her occupation as Caretaker Scientifis Association Rooms > > I am hoping someone on the list can tell me more about Thomas and the Scientific Association. > > Regards > > Liz Maxwell

Hi List, I am trying to find out more about my husband's Christopherson family. Thomas Christopherson married Elizabeth Pratt 28th Oct 1837.in Ulverston Lanc. The 1881 census for Whitehaven has Thomas Christopherson age 69 .Occupation The Scientific Association In previous census returns his occupation is Cooper The 1891 census for Whitehaven Thomas is 79 and a retired cooper. His 2nd wife Miriam gives her occupation as Caretaker Scientific Association Rooms. I am hoping someone on the list can tell me more about Thomas and the Scientific Association. Regards Liz Maxwell

Dorothy Robinson wrote:     <snip> > John went on to name his first born son Richard Henry McMinn > so the name Henry must surely hold some significance don't you think?     Possibly. But not necessarily the family significance you want.   For instance, my g-grandfather named his eldest son 'William Henry' but that was the name of his best friend at school, nothing to do with the family.   Chris

Hi Petra, Thank you so much for replying to my message. Yes, I was talking of the marriage of William McMin and Jane Hodgson. I really was hoping they were who I was looking for. Still could be of course, I won't rule them out just yet. I researched Jane Hodgson and found that she was the widow of John Hodgson at the time of her marriage to William - her maiden name being Bell. She was the daughter of Joseph Bell but researching the Bell family has not helped. I do not know of Andrew McMinn having a sister Mary but I know of the other siblings you mentioned, I will try and find out more about her. Andrew was baptised 12/12/1786 Unitarian Church, Manchester. It was the fact that Andrew named one of his daughters Jane that made me think that Jane Hodgson could have been his mother. I know it doesn't always follow but I felt anything is worth a try. The chap who really threw the spanner in the works for me was my great grandfather John McMInn, who although is down on the 1841 census as being son Andrew and Catherine McMinn, has named Henry McMinn as his father on his marriage certificate. I can find no trace of a Henry McMinn in UK who fits into the relevant time frame at all. John went on to name his first born son Richard Henry McMinn so the name Henry must surely hold some significance don't you think? Thank you again for your interest. rgds Dorothy

Hi Dorothy, Welcome to the Cumbria list! I assume you are talking about the marriage on 29 Jun 1782 in Harrington of William McMIN and Jane HODGSON? There was also the baptism of Mary, daughter of Wm & Jane McMIN on 27 Jul 1783 in Harrington. There don't appear to be any further children baptised to this couple in Cumberland, so that would fit with your McMINs living in Manchester from at least 1786. Did your Andrew have an older sister Mary, as far as you know? I see from the IGI that William & Jenny had three further children baptised in the Unitarian Church in Manchester - David 1789, Hannah 1791 and William 1794 - but no baptism of Andrew on the IGI. Unfortunately William McMINN's baptism is not in the Cumberland IGI. There were some McMINNs in Whitehaven including some Williams and they appeared to be Presbyterian. Perhaps the family originated from Scotland? At the same time in Harrington, there was a Robert McMIN, who married Mary ROPER on 21 Jan 1783 in Harrington. This couple had a child Mary in March 1783. Strangely, the only other McMIN baptism in Harrington is in 1783 William, son of Robert & Jane McMIN. Did the priest get the either the mother's or the father's name wrong, or did Robert's wife Mary die and he remarried? But apart from the two marriages quoted above, there were no other McMIN marriages in Harrington until 1812. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Robinson" <dorothy-robinson@sky.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] McMinn Family > HI, > > I am new to this list and was wondering if anyone out there is researching > the McMInn family. I have managed to trace back to Andrew McMinn born 1786 > in Manchester who married a Catherine Warburton. Andrew's parents were > William and Jenny or Jane? So far I have researched Lancashire but recently > I found a possible marriage for William and Jane in Cumbria. Could this be > them? I have been trying for such a long time but the origins of the > McMinn's are proving to be quite elusive. > I would be so grateful if there is anyone who could at least point me in > the right direction with regards to research in Cumbria. > Thank you. > rgds > Dorothy

HI, I am new to this list and was wondering if anyone out there is researching the McMInn family. I have managed to trace back to Andrew McMinn born 1786 in Manchester who married a Catherine Warburton. Andrew's parents were William and Jenny or Jane? So far I have researched Lancashire but recently I found a possible marriage for William and Jane in Cumbria. Could this be them? I have been trying for such a long time but the origins of the McMinn's are proving to be quite elusive. I would be so grateful if there is anyone who could at least point me in the right direction with regards to research in Cumbria. Thank you. rgds Dorothy

Hi Everyone, I am Judy Noel in Barrie, Ontario, Canada. My great grandfather was Timothy Whitfield, born in Kirkoswald in 1855. He was related to the Lowthians, Whythams, Parkers, Sarginsons...just to mention a few and I am going back to the 1600s. My 5th great grandmother Isabella Lowthian married Thomas Whitfield in Kirkcudbright, Scotland in 1773, but then ended up back in Kirkoswald. I have spoken to many of you on Ancestry...Lowthians, Fawcetts, Barnsleys, etc. We are from 'way back', but we are interested. On June 9th, 2013 we will be meeting in Kirkoswald to talk about the history of the time...I'm thinking 1600s to 1800s, but whatever. I will have my tree...please bring yours. And please bring the oldest pics you might have! I will give you more information as we develop this, but we intend to have at least one guest speaker and just a fabulous afternoon of people who like family history. I hope you will come, Petra? If anyone wants all the names involved (lots of them, let me know). I will cheerfully give my e-mail, but I didn't know if that was OK on here. We will have specific times and place as we go along. Regards, Judy

Hi Cathy, When googling for David CRONE, I found this message left on a genealogical forum in 2001 by someone called Maurice Hemingway: http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?crone::94.html >> I am tracing my line of Crones. A Margaret Crone born 15 Jul 1857 Maryport, Cumberland married a Thomas Henry King in 1879. Mary was the daughter of David Crone (born c1833 at Maryport) and Catherine O'Reilley. I am sure that David was the son of William Crone and Ann Huddart of Maryport who married 3 April 1828. << Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Trewhitt" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:38 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport Hi Can anyone help me please. Having hit my head against a brick wall for a long time now, I realy do need help. My gt grandfather David Crone b Maryport 1833, like most of his family sailed out of Maryport, moving coals etc to Ireland. He went down with his ship/boat in Dublin Bay. The thing is we do not know when this happend ( some time 1851-1861 ) and we do not know the name of the vessel. I have tried to find his death, but to no avail. Please can some kind soul help me ??? Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

The BMD at sea registers used to be at the Family Records Centre at Myddleton Place so now that has closed they are presumably at the National Archives. I think one of the commercial sites has them online but I don't think it's Ancestry. Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Anderton" <peterwell@btinternet.com> To: "'Cathy Trewhitt'" <cathytrewhitt@yahoo.co.uk>; <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport Hi Cathy I don't know if the following is relevant at the moment, but when I lost an ancestor at sea near Demerara, I was directed to the National Archives. It appeared that anyone who died at sea had their death registered in a different 'format' I don't know if Ancestry have transcribed those records - possibly worth a trawl through what they have on line. Otherwise I would suggest a letter or phone call to the National Archives to see if they can point you in the right direction. Also have you tried the Irish Records? His death could have been registered there. The above info could be out of date, if it is then I apologise, it is a long time since I tracked my ancestor down. The date and port from which he sailed will be a great help. Cheers Jenny -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Trewhitt Sent: 04 January 2013 15:39 To: ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport Hi Can anyone help me please. Having hit my head against a brick wall for a long time now, I realy do need help. My gt grandfather David Crone b Maryport 1833, like most of his family sailed out of Maryport, moving coals etc to Ireland. He went down with his ship/boat in Dublin Bay. The thing is we do not know when this happend ( some time 1851-1861 ) and we do not know the name of the vessel. I have tried to find his death, but to no avail. Please can some kind soul help me ??? Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

Hi Cathy I don't know if the following is relevant at the moment, but when I lost an ancestor at sea near Demerara, I was directed to the National Archives. It appeared that anyone who died at sea had their death registered in a different 'format' I don't know if Ancestry have transcribed those records - possibly worth a trawl through what they have on line. Otherwise I would suggest a letter or phone call to the National Archives to see if they can point you in the right direction. Also have you tried the Irish Records? His death could have been registered there. The above info could be out of date, if it is then I apologise, it is a long time since I tracked my ancestor down. The date and port from which he sailed will be a great help. Cheers Jenny -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Trewhitt Sent: 04 January 2013 15:39 To: ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Maryport  Hi Can anyone help me please. Having hit my head against a brick wall for a long time now, I realy do need help. My gt grandfather David Crone b Maryport 1833, like most of his family sailed out of Maryport, moving coals etc to Ireland. He went down with his ship/boat in Dublin Bay. The thing is we do not know when this happend ( some time 1851-1861 ) and we do not know the name of the vessel. I have tried to find his death, but to no avail. Please can some kind soul help me ???     Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6007 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/6007 - Release Date: 01/03/13

 Hi Can anyone help me please. Having hit my head against a brick wall for a long time now, I realy do need help. My gt grandfather David Crone b Maryport 1833, like most of his family sailed out of Maryport, moving coals etc to Ireland. He went down with his ship/boat in Dublin Bay. The thing is we do not know when this happend ( some time 1851-1861 ) and we do not know the name of the vessel. I have tried to find his death, but to no avail. Please can some kind soul help me ???     Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England

I am looking for information on a Sarah Bowsfiels (Bousfield) born in 1823 in Ravenstondale and her ancestors. I am also looking for information on a William Knewstubb born in 1820 in Ravenstonedale and his ancestors. They were married in 1844 and emigrated to the United States in 1852. Any assistance would be appreciated. Gary Schulte

Hello, I was wondering if there is a cemetery at the Dent Methodist Church with headstones? Also I found a list of names who have memorial inscriptions online for the Dent parish church but no further information, just names and location. Is it possible to get more details on the inscription for a name I found on the list? Thank you, Tam

Hi Tam, Dent was originally in Yorkshire although now belongs to Cumbria. The Cumbria FHS appears not to have a publication with MIs from Dent - but that doesn't necessarily mean they haven't been transcribed. It is worth emailing Kendal Record Office to find out whether they hold (or at least know of) transcriptions of either the parish church graveyard or a Methodist graveyard. Good luck! Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "tam smith" <tamiwell@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:11 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Dent - cemetery records > Hello, > I was wondering if there is a cemetery at the Dent Methodist Church with headstones? > Also I found a list of names who have memorial inscriptions online for the Dent parish church but no further information, just names and location. Is it possible to get more details on the inscription for a name I found on the list? > Thank you, > Tam

Gerald knows and is trying to fix the problem. He is not in Spain and has not been robbed (other than of his email address...). Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Harding" <suesfolks@yahoo.co.uk> To: "sub Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA-D-request@rootsweb.com>; "postmessage Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Gerlad Sandwith email compromised? >I picked up a personal 'request' from Gerald Sandwith's email account suggesting he'd been abroad and robbed. Word for word, it is the same email message used when my husbands account was hacked and distributed to all in his address book. Beware! > > If anyone has another way of contacting GS please let him know - replying to the initial email will only toute straight back to the jackers!

This happens a lot in the States, I even had a request for money from a friend that I had just talked to. The e-mail said that she had been robbed and was not able to get home without financial help, our local police chief even received one !!!!!!!!!!! cheers, Norma --- On Mon, 11/26/12, Petra Mitchinson <Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk> wrote: From: Petra Mitchinson <Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Gerlad Sandwith email compromised? To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 2:12 PM Gerald knows and is trying to fix the problem. He is not in Spain and has not been robbed (other than of his email address...). Petra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Harding" <suesfolks@yahoo.co.uk> To: "sub Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA-D-request@rootsweb.com>; "postmessage Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Gerlad Sandwith email compromised? >I picked up a personal 'request' from Gerald Sandwith's email account suggesting he'd been abroad and robbed. Word for word, it is the same email message used when my husbands account was hacked and distributed to all in his address book. Beware! > > If anyone has another way of contacting GS please let him know - replying to the initial email will only toute straight back to the jackers! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I picked up a personal 'request' from Gerald Sandwith's email account suggesting he'd been abroad and robbed. Word for word, it is the same email message used when my husbands account was hacked and distributed to all in his address book. Beware! If anyone has another way of contacting GS please let him know - replying to the initial email will only toute straight back to the jackers!

Thankyou Susan for your letter. I unfortunately cannot find anything linking our trees at this stage, however I add the following for your information. Leonard (born 1812)'s son Francis was born 18 Jan 1846 Friar Street, Lancaster. He was a civil engineer /surveyor. Leonard built his own ship and with his family (Margaret, dau's Margaret and Emma, sons Leonard, Francis, Richard, Herbert) sailed to Australia. He sold the ship there and sailed to NZ in 1853. Francis died in New Plymouth. His son (my grandfather) Francis Middleton Simpson was born 1874 in Opotiki. My father, Neville Francis Simpson, a solicitor, was born at Napier in 1910. Regards, Marilyn. On 07/11/2012, at 1:37 AM, Susan Teague <susieteague@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Marilyn, > > I have Simpsons in my tree. My great great grandmother was Hannah Simpson > b. abt 1834 in Over Wyresdale Yorkshire, she married Hezekiah Cook Smith > and they ran the Vulcan Hotel in Dalton. > Her mother was Mary Simpson born abt. 1799 in Lancaster and father William > b. 1795 in Over Wyresdale, siblings Thomas William, Joseph, Edward, Mary > and Robert Any connections? > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM, <mazzajoy@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> I would be delighted to hear from anyone related to, or know of any >> further info regarding to: >> Ja Simpson father of Wm Simpson chr. 5.3.1664, James Simpson chr. >> 27.9.1696, Mark Simpson chr. 12.5.1728, Leonard Simpson born 10.5.1750, >> Leonard Simpson born 16.1.1788. All born in Dalton. Leonard Simpson chr. >> 7.2.1812 St. Peter, Liverpool, shipwright, died Hamilton, New Zealand 1875. >> Regards, >> Marilyn Simpson.

Hamilton is a strange place for a shipwright, it is not near the sea! -----Original Message----- From: eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-cumbria-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mazzajoy@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 4:09 p.m. To: ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] SIMPSON family from Dalton in Furness Hi Listers, I would be delighted to hear from anyone related to, or know of any further info regarding to: Ja Simpson father of Wm Simpson chr. 5.3.1664, James Simpson chr. 27.9.1696, Mark Simpson chr. 12.5.1728, Leonard Simpson born 10.5.1750, Leonard Simpson born 16.1.1788. All born in Dalton. Leonard Simpson chr. 7.2.1812 St. Peter, Liverpool, shipwright, died Hamilton, New Zealand 1875. Regards, Marilyn Simpson. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I would be delighted to hear from anyone related to, or know of any further info regarding to: Ja Simpson father of Wm Simpson chr. 5.3.1664, James Simpson chr. 27.9.1696, Mark Simpson chr. 12.5.1728, Leonard Simpson born 10.5.1750, Leonard Simpson born 16.1.1788. All born in Dalton. Leonard Simpson chr. 7.2.1812 St. Peter, Liverpool, shipwright, died Hamilton, New Zealand 1875. Regards, Marilyn Simpson.