Check these two sites:- http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=310000.859505483&Y=540000.120815301&width=700&height=400&gride=308616.859505483&gridn=539808.120815301&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=1&scale=25000 http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/aspatria_f.html Terry Alderson .Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: "NJP" <njp@sbcglobal.net> To: "Eng-Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Allerby Hall in Cumbria, UK > Has anyone ever heard of Alerby Hall in the UK? NJP > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone ever heard of Alerby Hall in the UK? NJP

Thank you, Jan; I'll go to the URL. It is a great site. ----- Original Message ----- From: JanIsobel@aol.com<mailto:JanIsobel@aol.com> To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Google Books tip - Greenip, Southey, Warter In a message dated 4/3/2007 8:21:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mahb5603@msn.com<mailto:mahb5603@msn.com> writes: > Would one get the same site if they just went to GOOGLE and put in the > field: Google book search? > The short answer is 'yes'. The URL for Google Book Search is http://www.books.google.com<http://www.books.google.com/> . Regards, Jan Isobel (She who generally finds things the most difficult way!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Sarah, I appreciate that...Regards...Shaun

Dear Shaun, I "googled" Bridekirk, there are loads of photographs etc, well worth a look. St. Bridget's Bridekirk, is part of the COCKERMOUTH team of parishes (all this is from the Carlisle diocese web site), the priest in charge is Revd Wendy Sanders, her e-mail is wendy@cateam.org.uk they also have their own web site www.cateam.org.uk her 'phone number is 01900 823269 Good hunting, Sarah in lovely sunny Cumbria ----- Original Message ----- From: <Autobyke@aol.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Bridekirk Church, Cockermouth > Hi Sarah, thanks for that, yes please let me have the phone > No...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Nivard -Did you see my posting about the diary of A Barnes? best wishes from Isabel Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: "NJP" <njp@sbcglobal.net> To: "Eng-Cumbria" <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com>; "BARNES" <BARNES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Looking for any Barnes in Cumbria to discuss >a Barnes family from the 1800s...Hodgen Barnes, son of William & Mary > Barnes. Hodgsen was born in 1823. njp > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 4/3/2007 8:21:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mahb5603@msn.com writes: > Would one get the same site if they just went to GOOGLE and put in the > field: Google book search? > The short answer is 'yes'. The URL for Google Book Search is http://www.books.google.com . Regards, Jan Isobel (She who generally finds things the most difficult way!)

Would one get the same site if they just went to GOOGLE and put in the field: Google book search? ----- Original Message ----- From: JanIsobel@aol.com<mailto:JanIsobel@aol.com> To: ENG-CUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Google Books tip - Greenip, Southey, Warter I don't recall where I read the tip about using Google Books to search for ancestral clues, but if it was on this mailing list - many, many thanks to the poster. For those of you who have not tried the Google Book search, I encourage you to do so. The results for me have cleared up a long-time mystery regarding my 2nd greatgrandfather, John Fletcher GREENIP (born Crosthwaite 1814). I knew that John F. Greenip had married Maria ELGAR (born Cheriton, Kent) in 1845 in West Tarring, Sussex. What puzzled me was why and/or how the son of a schoolmaster at Appleby and later the first headmaster of Keswick High School (3nd greatgrandfather, John GREENIP sometimes GREENOP) moved to Sussex and worked as a servant. In later years he was a solicitor's clerk in London - an occupation which I felt was more suited to what I would have expected his education to have been. The Google Book search solved part of my mystery. John Fletcher Greenip was mentioned in a book written by a vicar, John Wood WARTER. He referred to JFG as his faithful servant. The extract I read went on to describe how JFG would fall back into the broadest of Cumberland accents when he talked about 'home' i.e., the lakes, villages and fells. He went on to write that only his wife (vicar's wife) could understand him when he lapsed into the dialect of his childhood and growing years. Armed with that piece of information, I googled the vicar's name and found that he was married to Edith SOUTHEY, the eldest daughter of the poet laureate, Robert SOUTHEY. A few more clicks and googles and it all came together. Robert Southey and other Southey family members are buried in Crosthwaite, the long time village of my GREENIP ancestors. The poet laureate lived at Greta Hall, as did Wordsworth at some time, I believe. While I cannot prove it at the moment, I would like to think that my Greenips knew the Southey family and that is how and why my 2nd greatgrandfather ended up serving them in West Tarring, Sussex. Sorry for the long e-mail, but I just wanted to share the information and encourage you all to try Google Book search. I've also found important information on it regarding some of my Huguenot ancestors...but that's not a story for this mailing list. Regards and good hunting, Jan Isobel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

a Barnes family from the 1800s...Hodgen Barnes, son of William & Mary Barnes. Hodgsen was born in 1823. njp

Hi Sarah, thanks for that, yes please let me have the phone No...Regards...Shaun

As far as I'm aware it is still in use. We last visited a couple of years ago. Quite well kept we have some collateral ancestors buried there. When we went it was easy to walk around. Do you want me to look in the phone book to see if I can find the vicar's address / phone number? Regards, Sarah in north Cumbria ----- Original Message ----- From: <Autobyke@aol.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com>; <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Bridekirk Church, Cockermouth > Hi folks, > I know that Jame ROBINSON was buried in Bridekirk churchyard on 20th April > 1888. > I have a couple of queries you may be able to help me with.....Does anyone > know... > 1...Is this church and churchyard still in use? > 2...Are there any records anywhere that would tell me if his grave has a > headstone? > 3...If there is a gravestone, is there anyway I could get a copy of the > inscription on it, or better still a photograph of it? > Hoping you can help...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to Russell, Maureen, Peter and Petra for replying and giving advice...Regards...Shaun

Hi everyone all i want is to make sure that i'm on the right track, so i can eventually get in touch with other descendant's so i can start sharing what information that everyone else may be missing.

I'm working on trying to find out how my ancestor Benjamin Martindale is connected to the Airey clan, this is my brickwall, so at the moment all i can provide you is the following information. Benjamin Martindale (B) Abt 1762, married Mary Roscoe July 22, 1787 in St. Peter's Church Liverpool, Lancashire, England Children John Martindale (B) Abt 1800 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England. What i'm trying to find out is where and how Benjamin is connected to the Airey and Gilpin line, I was told that i descend from the Gilpins and i'm working on where i connect.

Shaun wrote: > Hi folks, > I know that Jame ROBINSON was buried in Bridekirk churchyard on 20th April > 1888. > I have a couple of queries you may be able to help me with.....Does anyone > know... > 1...Is this church and churchyard still in use? I should think so. Bridekirk is a parish in its own right, but is close to Cockermouth. > 2...Are there any records anywhere that would tell me if his grave has a > headstone? The parish registers and Bishop's Transcripts are at Carlisle Record Office. However, I have no idea whether they have a cemetery plan - these are sometimes kept at the church. I don't know either whether someone has transcribed the tombstones in the churchyard - if so, it is likely that Carlisle Record Office has a copy of the transcript. > 3...If there is a gravestone, is there anyway I could get a copy of the > inscription on it, or better still a photograph of it? If the tombstones have been transcribed and the transcript is at Carlisle Record Office, they will be able to help. Otherwise, you need to find a friendly local willing to do a search... This here is a very quiet list, but if you try the Cumberland Rootsweb list, it is very active and has lots of helpful locals on it, so you may strike lucky... > Hoping you can help...Regards...Shaun Trying my best! Petra

thanks , I will give it a go best wishes from Isabel Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: <JanIsobel@aol.com> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] How to use Google Books > In a message dated 4/1/2007 12:13:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > isabel.adams@ntlworld.com writes: > >> Hi Thanks for the tip but how do you use Google books? > > > >> Sorry folks, I should have anticipated this question. Use >> http://www.google.com to access Google's main page. Directly under the >> large Google logo >> (just above the search box) you should see categories. Generally, we are >> searching under "Web", but you can change your search by selecting one of >> the other >> categories e.g. "maps". Slide your mouse over to "Other" (far right) and >> one of two things will happen: > > > 1. You will see a reference to "Books" and a few other categories, or > 2. Click "Other" and it will take you to another Google page. > > In the event of 1., click Books and that should bring you up to the search > page for books. > > In the event of 2. look down the Google page it takes you to and select > "Books" - that will get you to Google Book search page. > > Hope this helps. Have lots of fun and use your imaginations - there are > some > treasures to be found! > > Good googling everyone, > > Jan Isobel > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Corinne, You'll need to gives us some details and the questions you would like to be answered! Petra ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:22:10 -0700 > From: Corinne <twiglets@telus.net> > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Airey's > > I'm working on getting my family tree straightened out, and properly > documented, so if anyone wishe's to offer to help, i would be most > grateful, as alot of the information i have is incorrect, or is missing.

Hi Thanks for the tip but how do you use Google books? best wishes from Isabel Adams ----- Original Message ----- From: <JanIsobel@aol.com> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Google Books tip - Greenip, Southey, Warter I don't recall where I read the tip about using Google Books to search for ancestral clues, but if it was on this mailing list - many, many thanks to the poster. For those of you who have not tried the Google Book search, I encourage you to do so. The results for me have cleared up a long-time mystery regarding my 2nd greatgrandfather, John Fletcher GREENIP (born Crosthwaite 1814). I knew that John F. Greenip had married Maria ELGAR (born Cheriton, Kent) in 1845 in West Tarring, Sussex. What puzzled me was why and/or how the son of a schoolmaster at Appleby and later the first headmaster of Keswick High School (3nd greatgrandfather, John GREENIP sometimes GREENOP) moved to Sussex and worked as a servant. In later years he was a solicitor's clerk in London - an occupation which I felt was more suited to what I would have expected his education to have been. The Google Book search solved part of my mystery. John Fletcher Greenip was mentioned in a book written by a vicar, John Wood WARTER. He referred to JFG as his faithful servant. The extract I read went on to describe how JFG would fall back into the broadest of Cumberland accents when he talked about 'home' i.e., the lakes, villages and fells. He went on to write that only his wife (vicar's wife) could understand him when he lapsed into the dialect of his childhood and growing years. Armed with that piece of information, I googled the vicar's name and found that he was married to Edith SOUTHEY, the eldest daughter of the poet laureate, Robert SOUTHEY. A few more clicks and googles and it all came together. Robert Southey and other Southey family members are buried in Crosthwaite, the long time village of my GREENIP ancestors. The poet laureate lived at Greta Hall, as did Wordsworth at some time, I believe. While I cannot prove it at the moment, I would like to think that my Greenips knew the Southey family and that is how and why my 2nd greatgrandfather ended up serving them in West Tarring, Sussex. Sorry for the long e-mail, but I just wanted to share the information and encourage you all to try Google Book search. I've also found important information on it regarding some of my Huguenot ancestors...but that's not a story for this mailing list. Regards and good hunting, Jan Isobel ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Shaun For the Scottish records, start with www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, which gives access to all the pre-1855 Old Parish Register baptisms and marriages and all the Census of Scotland 1841-1901, and to Scottish wills, and more. It is a pay-as-you-go site, but very good. The website of the Scottish Genealogy Society at http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ is useful too, and has a lot of links to other useful sites. I hope this helps. Good hunting Peter Peter B Freshwater MA MCLIP FSAScot Edinburgh, Scotland peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching BRUCE, FOLWELL, FOX, FRESHWATER, PERKINS, SWINGLER (Beds, Leics, Northants) HAUGHAN, JOHNSTONE, RICHARDSON (Annandale, Cumberland, Durham) DOW, FINDLAY, GRAY, JACK(SON), KENNEDY (Angus, Glasgow, Perth) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Autobyke@aol.com> To: <eng-nbl-berwick-upon-tweed@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ENG-NBL-BERWICK-UPON-TWEED-L@rootsweb.com>; <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com>; <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>; <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Cheviot hills/Grasmere query > Hi Russell, thanks for your reply... > The answer to your request for more information as follows. > 1...I have not seen the attestation papers, I received the information > second hand > 2...Emily's parents were... > James Robinson born 1 Jun 1823 Lane House, Ulverston, died 17 Apr 1888 > Cockermouth > Mary Fleming born11 Jul 1816 Rydal, Loughrigg, Westmorland, . > They married on 30 Apr 1850 in the Parish of Grasmere, Rydal. > Children of these were Charles, Emily, Flemming, Richard. > I don't know if Charles had any brothers or sisters. > Do you know where I can see records for the Scotland side of the Cheviot > Hills? > I know it's not much to go on, I appreciate any help/ideas I can > get...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 4/1/2007 12:13:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, isabel.adams@ntlworld.com writes: > Hi Thanks for the tip but how do you use Google books? > Sorry folks, I should have anticipated this question. Use > http://www.google.com to access Google's main page. Directly under the large Google logo > (just above the search box) you should see categories. Generally, we are > searching under "Web", but you can change your search by selecting one of the other > categories e.g. "maps". Slide your mouse over to "Other" (far right) and > one of two things will happen: 1. You will see a reference to "Books" and a few other categories, or 2. Click "Other" and it will take you to another Google page. In the event of 1., click Books and that should bring you up to the search page for books. In the event of 2. look down the Google page it takes you to and select "Books" - that will get you to Google Book search page. Hope this helps. Have lots of fun and use your imaginations - there are some treasures to be found! Good googling everyone, Jan Isobel