I have been researching the family of John Shackley and Jane Nicholson who lived in Carlisle and have come to a brick wall. I have traced the family in the census returns from 1841 through to 1881. John is listed as being born C1807 in Cockermouth, Cumberland and Jane as born C1815 in Carlisle, Cumberland. They were living in Caldewgate, Carlisle in all the census returns and John's occupation is listed as "cotton warper". John appears to have died aged 76 in the June quarter of 1878 in Carlisle and Jane appears to have died aged 78 in the March quarter of 1883 in Carlisle Unfortunately I can't find any reference to a marriage for this couple, nor can I find births/baptisms. I have had no luck I finding any record of the baptisms of their children Alice, Joseph & Isaac either. There is nothing listed on the IGI although I think I've found reference to Joseph and Isaac's births in the BD&M indexes. I haven't done any research in this part of England before so am not familiar with the resources available. I live in Australia so am not able to visit records offices in Brittain. I would greatly appreciate any assistance in obtaining details regarding the marriage and baptism of this couple or pointers as to where I can expect to find them. Regards, Andrea In Melbourne, Australia.

Hello Andrea, I located Daniel and Ann McMullin/McMullen in the 1861 census. They are still living in Duke Street. You might have had trouble finding them because Daniel Sr.'s name has been transcribed on Ancestry.com as "Danel". If you cannot find the entry now, please let me know. I also found a probable marriage for Daniel and Ann. A Daniel McMullen resident in Cumberland married an Agnes McWade of Derry at Gretna Green in 1835. I have sent you a copy of the image via Ancestry.com. Since Agnes and Ann(e) are often interchangeable, I expect that this could be your couple. Certainly the spelling of McWade vs. McQuade should not be a barrier to considering this possibility. How romantic of them - running off to Gretna Green to be married! :-) Sorry, no luck with finding anything else regarding your couple, but hope that these few scraps will help. Regards, Jan Isobel

In a message dated 1/29/2010 5:54:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, fitzys@alphalink.com.au writes: Unfortunately I can't find any reference to a marriage for this couple, nor can I find births/baptisms. I have had no luck I finding any record of the baptisms of their children Alice, Joseph & Isaac either. There is nothing listed on the IGI although I think I've found reference to Joseph and Isaac's births in the BD&M indexes. Hello Andrea, Joseph Shackley's christening record is on the IGI. It is an extracted record i.e., it is not simply a record that has been added by a submitter. He was christened 23 November 1845 at Holy Trinity, Carlisle, Cumberland. Parents indicated to be John Shackley and Jane. The batch number is C045461. Another child, Jane, was christened there in 1844. Perhaps she died prior to the 1851 census. No sign of Alice or Isaac though. Hope this helps in some small way. Regards, Jan Isobel

Hi All, Surely it means a priest, a presbyter or patriarch as in Prester John, by John Buchan. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petra Mitchinson" <Petra.Mitchinson@doctors.org.uk> To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning > > Hi, > > Are you sure it is Prester and not Presser? > > Petra > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:56:58 -0000 >> From: "Gordon Hunt" <huntgm@margorhunt.plus.com> >> Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning >> >> Hello Cumbria wizards >> >> I have come across the following in a deed of administration dated 1852. >> One >> of the appointed administrators is named as John Strickland "PRESTER" of >> Strickland Hall. Does anybody know the meaning of PRESTER? I have tried >> all >> the google sites with no luck! >> >> Gordon Derbyshire >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:45:31 +0000 >> From: L J S <reiver@sympatico.ca> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning >> >> >> When I was in High School we were assigned to read a novel called Prester >> John. I guarantee that it well never see the light of day on a school >> reading list as it was very racist. This Prester John was a Presbyterian >> minister from Africa who had come to Scotland. I always assumed that >> Prester was a term for a preacher or a minister. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 9058 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi, Are you sure it is Prester and not Presser? Petra ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:56:58 -0000 > From: "Gordon Hunt" <huntgm@margorhunt.plus.com> > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning > > Hello Cumbria wizards > > I have come across the following in a deed of administration dated 1852. One > of the appointed administrators is named as John Strickland "PRESTER" of > Strickland Hall. Does anybody know the meaning of PRESTER? I have tried all > the google sites with no luck! > > Gordon Derbyshire > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:45:31 +0000 > From: L J S <reiver@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning > > > When I was in High School we were assigned to read a novel called Prester John. I guarantee that it well never see the light of day on a school reading list as it was very racist. This Prester John was a Presbyterian minister from Africa who had come to Scotland. I always assumed that Prester was a term for a preacher or a minister.

Thanks for this suggestion. > > When I was in High School we were assigned to read a novel called Prester > John. I guarantee that it well never see the light of day on a school > reading list as it was very racist. This Prester John was a Presbyterian > minister from Africa who had come to Scotland. I always assumed that > Prester was a term for a preacher or a minister. > >> Hello Cumbria wizards >> >> I have come across the following in a deed of administration dated 1852. >> One >> of the appointed administrators is named as John Strickland "PRESTER" of >> Strickland Hall. Does anybody know the meaning of PRESTER? I have tried >> all >> the google sites with no luck! >> >> Gordon Derbyshire No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2651 - Release Date: 01/28/10 07:36:00

When I was in High School we were assigned to read a novel called Prester John. I guarantee that it well never see the light of day on a school reading list as it was very racist. This Prester John was a Presbyterian minister from Africa who had come to Scotland. I always assumed that Prester was a term for a preacher or a minister. > From: huntgm@margorhunt.plus.com > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:56:58 +0000 > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] word meaning > > Hello Cumbria wizards > > I have come across the following in a deed of administration dated 1852. One > of the appointed administrators is named as John Strickland "PRESTER" of > Strickland Hall. Does anybody know the meaning of PRESTER? I have tried all > the google sites with no luck! > > Gordon Derbyshire > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2648 - Release Date: 01/27/10 07:36:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Cumbria wizards I have come across the following in a deed of administration dated 1852. One of the appointed administrators is named as John Strickland "PRESTER" of Strickland Hall. Does anybody know the meaning of PRESTER? I have tried all the google sites with no luck! Gordon Derbyshire No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2648 - Release Date: 01/27/10 07:36:00

Mine is an unusual request. I’m interested in finding out more about Adam MILLER of Carlisle who was was active in the field of comstructed languages beforte and during the First World War. He knew Esperanto but dedicated time and money to creating at least one rival to Esperanto of his own. According to my sources he created Corintic in 1908 and in 1917 came a project called Extra Lingue,a merger of Latin with English. He was editor of his own small circulation called "Correspondense international: Liber organe por discusiones de problemes international-lingual”. He may have been very young when he started this work. Does anyone claim Adam MILLER as an ancestor? Do any his writings survive? Any suggestions welcome! Bill Chapman Pat and Bill Chapman, 8 Vardre View, Deganwy, Conwy, LL31 9TE patbillchapman@gmail.com

Answer sent off list. Sue Fryer Cumbria ________________________________ From: pyd_zac7 <pyd_zac7@internode.on.net> To: ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 20 January, 2010 21:58:55 Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] 1911 Waterworks projects I believe have now just located one of my forbears on the 1911 census working as a Public Works labourer for a waterworks contractor. He was lodging with over 30 other men in what were called the Red Well Huts, Over Kellet,  Carnforth. I assume that there must have been a major water works project then under way in 1911 I would be very interested if anyone on the Cumbria as any  information and history and background about this project and particularly about the Red Well huts as it would help me to fill in the context of where my forbear was working and living in 1911 The head of this 'household' was a Jessie Duncan Keeper of a temporary Lodging Hut holding the 30 men Many thanks for any help given Michael McDonnell Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "pyd_zac7" <pyd_zac7@internode.on.net> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] 1911 Waterworks projects >I believe have now just located one of my forbears on the 1911 census > working as a Public Works labourer for a waterworks contractor. > He was lodging with over 30 other men in what were called the Red Well > Huts, Over Kellet, Carnforth. > > I assume that there must have been a major water works project then > under way in 1911 > > I would be very interested if anyone on the Cumbria as any information > and history and background about this project and particularly about the > Red Well huts as it would help me to fill in the context of where my > forbear was working and living in 1911 The head of this 'household' was > a Jessie Duncan Keeper of a temporary Lodging Hut holding the 30 men > > Many thanks for any help given > > Michael McDonnell Australia Michael try putting the following into google Thirlmere to Manchester and then Hawsewater to Manchester These are both artificial lakes built to take water to Manchester. I think possibly the Thirlmere one will be what you are looking for with the dates of 1911 Goron Hunt > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2636 - Release Date: 01/21/10 07:34:00

I believe have now just located one of my forbears on the 1911 census working as a Public Works labourer for a waterworks contractor. He was lodging with over 30 other men in what were called the Red Well Huts, Over Kellet, Carnforth. I assume that there must have been a major water works project then under way in 1911 I would be very interested if anyone on the Cumbria as any information and history and background about this project and particularly about the Red Well huts as it would help me to fill in the context of where my forbear was working and living in 1911 The head of this 'household' was a Jessie Duncan Keeper of a temporary Lodging Hut holding the 30 men Many thanks for any help given Michael McDonnell Australia

Hi List, I have a marriage certificate of John ARMSTRONG and Catherine NICOLSON at the Parish Church of Dalston by licence on 31st July 1838, For age both are down as miner, Address for John ARMSTRONG looks like Hawkesdale, Dalston. Address for Catherine NICOLSON is Dalstron. Father off John is Matthew ARMSTRONG, occ. Clothes Dealer. Father off Catherine is Thomas NICHOLSON occ. Parish Clerk. Witnesses are Robert EMMERSON & Jane ARMSTRONG, The 1861 census (for Liverpool, all children born in Liverpool) has John age 43 and Catherine 40. The 1851 census has John age 33 and Catherine age 30. I have an 1841 census for Parish off Stanwix town Houghton HO 107/170/4 which has Matthew ARMSTRONG, weaver age 40 and wife Mary age 35. The 1st 2 children are John age 19 and Catherine age 17. I do not know if John & Catherine are brother & sister or if they are the married couple that I am looking for? I would appreciate any advise for going back further and finding out about the families that went before. Thanks Gisela Australia

In 2009, I saw that a dealer on eBay was selling original documents from the Edenhall estate in Cumbria. These were mainly bills and receipts predominantly from the 18th century, with a few documents from the late 17th century and some from the early 1800s. Most of these documents contain personal names, usually the name of the tradesman who had submitted the bill or signed the receipt in addition to the name of the agent or steward who had paid the bill on behalf of the MUSGRAVE family. Some documents contained whole lists of names. In addition to the obvious relevance to family historians, the documents as a group also give a fascinating insight into the lifestyle of the MUSGRAVE family and the expenses involved in running a large household. The MUSGRAVE baronets had their main seat at Edenhall in Cumberland, but they also held a lot of land in Westmorland (Hartley Castle had been their main seat until the mid-16th century) and in County Durham in the Bishop Auckland area. These documents predominantly refer to Cumberland and Westmorland, but there are a few County Durham documents included as well. It saddened me that a family archive like this was being irretrievably dispersed, and I decided to transcribe the documents still offered for sale from the excellent photographs the seller had provided on eBay. Unfortunately many of the documents had already been sold, and for those the photos were no longer available. My transcription document therefore only contains 183 documents (although some of them consist of several original documents, so the total is almost 200). This represents a small fraction of those in the Edenhall archives. I am extremely grateful to Chris Dickinson for spending an inordinate amount of time, effort and patience in helping me to put my transcriptions onto his Rumbutter site. They are now ready to view. To preserve the formatting of my transcriptions, the transcribed documents are displayed as images, and their text can therefore not be copied. However, you can download my whole transcription document as a pdf file and then copy the text of any transcribed document in which you are interested into your word processor. Rumbutter's search engine fully works for the documents as there is also a "plain" text version below each document which has no formatting but is searchable. The site's "Tag" system has also been used to create an index of standard surnames (e.g. the surnames STEPHENSON, STEVENSON, STIVENSON etc. all appear under the Tag STEPHENSON). The MUSGRAVE Baronets and their agents, who appear in very many documents, have been tagged by full name. Unfortunately the tag system only allows a maximum of 12 tags per document, and six documents contained more than 12 names - these documents were given the tag "Not fully indexed". The Category system has been used for an index of occupations and general locations, mainly counties but also some individual places (Edenhall, Hartley, Carlisle, Penrith, Kendal). My downloadable pdf document has an index of full names and an alphabetical index of place names, giving (as far as I could determine them) each location's parish, county and grid reference. It is worth reading the introduction as it explains the rules I followed when transcribing. And the second page of the introduction contains a list of the MUSGRAVE baronets for quick reference. To view the documents, go to the Resources section http://www.rumbutter.net/gen-cumb-resources-home/ and click on "Edenhall", or go straight to the Edenhall Homepage at http://www.rumbutter.net/gen-cumb-res-edenhall-home . You need to log in. If you have not yet registered with the site, you will need to do so - it is entirely free. There are other excellent resources on the Rumbutter site, it is well worth it. Have fun! Petra P. S.: There is more of this to come in the future...

I am looking for information on the parents of John HALL of Littlebeck, born 22 FEB 1761 Colby, Westmorland, England , died 22 Mar 1851 Morland, Westmorland, England. I have been to the Kendal Records office and got as far back as John's birth in the Morland parish records. His father was William Hall and his mother's first name was Margaret. They may have been married in her parish, rather than Morland. John married Isabel FOTHERGILL, 1764-1825. Their son, Isaac Hall, was my g-g grandfather: born 27 Mar 1798, christened Crosby Ravensworth, Westmorland, England , died 24 Aug 1874, Belvidere, Boone, Illinois, USA . Thanks for any help. Kathy Hall Seattle, Washington, USA

Hi fellow researches. I note John and Jane Burrell at 52 Elizabeth St Worthington in the UK 1851 census. With them are daughter Margaret Murray and grand daughter Isabella age 4. (where's Dad??) Also in the house hold is lodger John Walker , agr.labourer. My interest is in the John Walker who maybe my great grandfather. "My John Walker" was not with his wife at the time of the 1851 census who was at Aspatria with their two children. Now "My John Walker" and his family came to Australia in 1853 so would not appear in the UK 1861 census. I have not been able to place any of the above folk in the 1841 census nor the 1861 census. If I can prove the John Walker is "mine" that would account for him not being in the 1861 census What happened to the rest of this household ?? Is there any one out there who has any further information on this household. The Burrells maybe deceased by 1861 but Margaret and Isabella should be somewhere. "Find My Past" does not bring up the "52" Elizabeth St address although later numbers are noted. Also I have noted that the Burrell family are pioneers of Worthington. thanks for your time Pamela Williams nee Walker

Hi Margaret, My grandmother was a Varty from Penrith, I have a fair few from around that area, if you think they could be connected let me know and I will send you a Varty family tree. Annabel On 25 Nov 2008, at 08:00, eng-cumbria-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston (Margaret) > 2. Re: Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston (Peter Freshwater) > 3. Genetic Genealogy - What can it do for me? (Nelda Percival) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:41:55 -0000 > From: "Margaret" <malexa2889@btinternet.com> > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston > To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D5D8ECB4772D4465AE5695A72C6A86B7@margaretc1eefb> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > New to this list and looking to see whether anyone has the above in > their > tree. Looking for a Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston, who > married a > Robert Alexander in Edinburgh 1820. They had three boys but then she > disappears not appearing with the family in either the 1841 or 1851 > Scottish > Census records. I have a sighting of a Jane Varty in the 1841 > census in > Alston with several younger "Vartys". This might possibly be "My > Jane" > looking after siblings? Any information anyone might have on the > family > would be welcome. > > Margaret Alexander > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:14:53 -0000 > From: "Peter Freshwater" <peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston > To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com>, <malexa2889@btinternet.com> > Message-ID: <E8E13B29FCD44D50813E603E8D6B7910@PETERLAPTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Margaret > > I have no VARTYs in my own family, but I remember that several men > with that > name attended, as boys, Bishop's Stortford College in Hertfordshire > in the > first years of the C20. I was at the same school in the late 1950s > and > remember seeing their names on donated chairs in the College's > Memorial > Hall. At least one trained in medicine at Edinburgh University, > probably > during the 1920s or 1930s, and I believe that more than one was a > medical > doctor in London. > > I mention this in case you think that they might be art of your Varty > family, and that you might wish to check backwards in time through the > University, school and/or obituaries in, for instance, the British > Medical > Journal. I am sorry that I cannot supply you with forenames or > dates. The > only name that I remember clearly, as being unusual, is that of C K > VARTY. > > In the hope that this may help, > > Best wishes for your hunt, > > Peter Freshwater > > Peter B Freshwater MA MACLIP FSA(Scot) > Edinburgh, Scotland > peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk > Researching > FRESHWATER, SWINGLER, BRUCE, PERKINS, FOLWELL, NEWCOMB(E) (Beds, > Leics, > Northants) > HAUGHAN, RICHARDSON (Cumbria, Durham) > DOW, GRAY, HUNTER, KENNEDY, JACKSON, McDOUGALL (Angus, Perthshire, > Glasgow) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret" <malexa2889@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:41 PM > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston > > >> New to this list and looking to see whether anyone has the above in >> their >> tree. Looking for a Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston, who >> married a >> Robert Alexander in Edinburgh 1820. They had three boys but then she >> disappears not appearing with the family in either the 1841 or 1851 >> Scottish >> Census records. I have a sighting of a Jane Varty in the 1841 >> census in >> Alston with several younger "Vartys". This might possibly be "My >> Jane" >> looking after siblings? Any information anyone might have on the >> family >> would be welcome. >> >> Margaret Alexander >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:49:56 -0600 > From: Nelda Percival <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> > Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Genetic Genealogy - What can it do for me? > To: <eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL116-W55E1FEBF6469341A44C4BFE4080@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" > > > Hi,I'm researching in Cumbria for Gilpin descendants. Not only am I > a Gilpin whose ancestry goes from the States to Canada to Ireland, > and possibly Cumbria, I am doing a one surname study and DNA > project, world wide. If you have ever wondered about Genetic > Genealogy; I have a very nice (so I've been told) web page > explaining it all.... http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ > Please feel free to drop by when ever. Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-CUMBRIA list administrator, send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-CUMBRIA mailing list, send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com > . > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-CUMBRIA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 47 > ******************************************

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Hello Margaret I have no VARTYs in my own family, but I remember that several men with that name attended, as boys, Bishop's Stortford College in Hertfordshire in the first years of the C20. I was at the same school in the late 1950s and remember seeing their names on donated chairs in the College's Memorial Hall. At least one trained in medicine at Edinburgh University, probably during the 1920s or 1930s, and I believe that more than one was a medical doctor in London. I mention this in case you think that they might be art of your Varty family, and that you might wish to check backwards in time through the University, school and/or obituaries in, for instance, the British Medical Journal. I am sorry that I cannot supply you with forenames or dates. The only name that I remember clearly, as being unusual, is that of C K VARTY. In the hope that this may help, Best wishes for your hunt, Peter Freshwater Peter B Freshwater MA MACLIP FSA(Scot) Edinburgh, Scotland peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching FRESHWATER, SWINGLER, BRUCE, PERKINS, FOLWELL, NEWCOMB(E) (Beds, Leics, Northants) HAUGHAN, RICHARDSON (Cumbria, Durham) DOW, GRAY, HUNTER, KENNEDY, JACKSON, McDOUGALL (Angus, Perthshire, Glasgow) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <malexa2889@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-CUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:41 PM Subject: [ENG-CUMBRIA] Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston > New to this list and looking to see whether anyone has the above in their > tree. Looking for a Jane Varty born circa 1798 in Alston, who married a > Robert Alexander in Edinburgh 1820. They had three boys but then she > disappears not appearing with the family in either the 1841 or 1851 > Scottish > Census records. I have a sighting of a Jane Varty in the 1841 census in > Alston with several younger "Vartys". This might possibly be "My Jane" > looking after siblings? Any information anyone might have on the family > would be welcome. > > Margaret Alexander > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-CUMBRIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi,I'm researching in Cumbria for Gilpin descendants. Not only am I a Gilpin whose ancestry goes from the States to Canada to Ireland, and possibly Cumbria, I am doing a one surname study and DNA project, world wide. If you have ever wondered about Genetic Genealogy; I have a very nice (so I've been told) web page explaining it all.... http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ Please feel free to drop by when ever. Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin