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    1. Re: [CUL-COP] Corney Gravestone Mystery
    2. John & Jill Coulthard
    3. Dear Heather, I was hoping you would answer as I thought you and your husband would be most likely to know. I have been working on this family for some time before I unbelievably came across this gravestone which told me a lot of details about his wives plus the youngest daughter I knew nothing about. We had gone to Corney church primarily because John's great-grandparents were married there and another relative had been a Rector. I had asked Whitehaven Record Office if there was any record in Corney burial register but they didn't find one so I was not expecting to find a gravestone. I had only just learned that Sarah was the name of the first wife from the Workington burial register and this just confirmed she was the right one. I only looked at the stone as I was curious as to which important family it belonged to and could scarcely believe it when I found it was this family and answered a lot of our questions. This was a great reward after several hours in the Record Office finding nothing much at all :-)))) This was a traditional six pointed star with one triangle reversed above the other which appears to be what you would call the Shield of David or Seal of Solomon? It might have been the symbol of his Lodge or just the protection icon you explained? See how I am grasping at straws. I have tried googling for everything in sight which is how I found the Zetland DeGrey connection. The names Julian and Adrian seem to have vague connections with different branches of Knights Templars but I am trying to peer into his mind to see the significance. Oscar Wilde was a Mason but only became famous well after Julian was given this second name. The sheep may just have been because he was a farmer and showing where his money came from? Mind you he didn't put any wine barrels on for his former occupation. It is the letters which really get me as they are so evenly spaced around this shield type carving. Have tried to think what words they could stand for without success. We took a photo of this which I can send to you Heather or anyone else if it would help. I thought it might be the first words of a psalm or similar but can't think what. I am hoping it clicks in someone's mind. Of course they may be a mixture of symbols, some masonic and some not. I have tried looking up Workington Lodge and Whitehaven Lodge to see if they showed any symbols or names which might connect with above. I doubt there was a Corney Lodge as it is a remote village but maybe the town of Bootle. I couldn't find anything worthwhile. Tried the Masonic question and answer site and they refuted the idea that obelisks were exclusively Masonic but more just a fashion but this was the only one in this graveyard. I understand that a few years ago you could request Masons' details for free or a nominal fee but now they charge quite a bit. Do you know if this rumour is true or how far back they are likely to keep records? Certainly Henry seems well and truly immersed in the organisation. As Henry is only an offshoot of our family I don't want to spend a lot of money finding out. However he is a most intriguing character and I would love to know more. Any more thoughts, suggestions or help would be most welcome. Thanks for replying and taking an interest. Very best wishes, Jill

    11/08/2002 02:23:57