Dear Tony, Following a further dig through my files I have established which CLEMENT MOSSOP married Elizabeth Lowden and was presumably the one listed as the Landlord of the Sun Inn in 1897. He was a very distant cousin of your Clement Mossop who married Martha Sumpton and a grandson of the Clement Mossop who married Mary Watson. Interestingly though at their marriage on 26 January 1895 at Arlecdon it was ELIZABETH whose profession was given as a Publican at Arlecdon whilst Clement was a farmer of Frizington, Arlecdon. Elizabeth was about ten years older than Clement and their ages were given as 40 and 49. The witnesses were Alfred Robinson and Mary Robinson and Clement's father was given as John, farmer. Elizabeth had previously been married to Charles Lowden, an Iron Miner living at Winder, Arlecdon in an iron mining community. Clement died on 31st October 1903 at Skelscough, Arlecdon aged 45 years and was buried on 3rd November. He is recorded on an MI in Arlecdon Churchyard with his parents, a brother and a sister. His mother was presumably living at Skelscough where she died a couple of years later. Strangely enough I haven't been able to find Clement on the 1881 census nor 1901 census anywhere in the country. In 1881 his parents were living in Whitehaven with some of their children and two brothers were in Liverpool. It is confusing as the Clement Mossop who married Martha Sumpton also lived earlier at Skelscough where he died in December 1881. Elizabeth's maiden name was THOMPSON, daughter of John. I know nothing else about this family or why she should be the Publican in 1897. Mary Elliott nee Sumpton was a Publican in Arlecdon on the 1881 census. It definitely does not seem though that the transfer of the license was through family reasons unless the Thompsons can be connected in to the Sumpton line. The third Clement Mossop I suggested was married to Jane and farming in Warwickshire in 1901. I hope this might give you some leads as to when the Sumpton/Elliott line finished at the Sun Inn and when the Thompson/Lowden line started there. I do not have the 1891 census to check who was Publican there on that date. Best wishes, Jill Coulthard

Hi Jill (and List), Interesting this Clement Mossop thread, as currently "Old Clem" Mossop owns Mossop's Haulage business, his son "Young Clem" Mossop, runs it, and his grandson, also a young Clem, works for it, and is an accomplished Moto-cross rider. Anybody wants it, I have a digital photo of the latter with his bike. His fiance worked at our Heritage Centre for around 8 months this year, and wanted it as a screen-saver (there's love for you!). I wonder if he's interested in his ancestry? Dave (Florence Mine Heritage Centre, Egremont) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Jill Coulthard" <jjcoulthard@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: [CUL-COP] Sun Inn, Arlecdon > Dear Tony, > > Following a further dig through my files I have established which CLEMENT > MOSSOP married Elizabeth Lowden and was presumably the one listed as the > Landlord of the Sun Inn in 1897. > > He was a very distant cousin of your Clement Mossop who married Martha > Sumpton and a grandson of the Clement Mossop who married Mary Watson. > > Interestingly though at their marriage on 26 January 1895 at Arlecdon it was > ELIZABETH whose profession was given as a Publican at Arlecdon whilst > Clement was a farmer of Frizington, Arlecdon. Elizabeth was about ten > years older than Clement and their ages were given as 40 and 49. The > witnesses were Alfred Robinson and Mary Robinson and Clement's father was > given as John, farmer. Elizabeth had previously been married to Charles > Lowden, an Iron Miner living at Winder, Arlecdon in an iron mining > community. > > Clement died on 31st October 1903 at Skelscough, Arlecdon aged 45 years and > was buried on 3rd November. He is recorded on an MI in Arlecdon Churchyard > with his parents, a brother and a sister. His mother was presumably living > at Skelscough where she died a couple of years later. > > Strangely enough I haven't been able to find Clement on the 1881 census nor > 1901 census anywhere in the country. In 1881 his parents were living in > Whitehaven with some of their children and two brothers were in Liverpool. > > It is confusing as the Clement Mossop who married Martha Sumpton also lived > earlier at Skelscough where he died in December 1881. > > Elizabeth's maiden name was THOMPSON, daughter of John. I know nothing > else about this family or why she should be the Publican in 1897. Mary > Elliott nee Sumpton was a Publican in Arlecdon on the 1881 census. > > It definitely does not seem though that the transfer of the license was > through family reasons unless the Thompsons can be connected in to the > Sumpton line. > > The third Clement Mossop I suggested was married to Jane and farming in > Warwickshire in 1901. > > I hope this might give you some leads as to when the Sumpton/Elliott line > finished at the Sun Inn and when the Thompson/Lowden line started there. I > do not have the 1891 census to check who was Publican there on that date. > > Best wishes, > > Jill Coulthard >

Dear Dave, We certainly enjoyed our visit to the Florence Mine and just managed to get on the last tour at the end of the 2001 season having rushed all the way from Maryport through all the road works to get there in time. I wonder if you were there on that occasion. Clement Mossops, three in three generations must definitely belong to our line somewhere. Could you hazard a guess as to how old "Old Clem" is and where is the Haulage business based? Funnily enough, some people are just not interested in their ancestry but I hope these are, especially to keep the name running down to the grandson. I would like a copy of the digital photo for my files. If you have any more information or find out more I would be very interested indeed to have it. Best wishes, Jill Coulthard