re information from Chris on the above Thanks, this establishes a relationship between the Patrickson and Ponsonby families although the places are not the same as on the children's bond. I have William Patrickson of Great Longthwaite [hard to read but I think this is correct] parish of Millom and John Ponsonby younger? of Kirksanton, same parish and county, yeoman. I note there are no Askews in the information you posted so I still cannot establish a relationship between the Ponsonbys/Patricksons with my Askews. I note the surname Braithwaite. On many IGI entries I have noted the source as Hannah A Braithwaite. There is a whole film of entries on Askews submitted by her but they relate back to the 1930s so there is no point in following these up. Ivan