Ok, here goes: STEP 1 Make sure that your cookies and javascript are on. Many the time I've wondered why I'm not getting anywhere with PRO and LDS sites, only to realise the cookies are off (I've just discovered that with javascript on, a nosey so-and-so can get through my firewall to read what's in my clipboard ... but I digress ...). STEP 2 Go to: http://www.pro.gov.uk/catalogues/a2a.htm [You can get the occasional warning message that you need to start from the main site, not a later bookmark] STEP 3 Press the highlighted hyperlink 'A2A(Access to Archives)' STEP 4 Press 'Search A2A' in the top menu bar, or the highlighted hyperlink 'search these catalogues'. They both get you to the same place. You should now be on the main search page at: http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/search/index.asp STEP 5 (a) The easiest thing to do is to put a search term in the KEYWORD box and press 'Search'. But if you want to limit your hits: (b) [optional] Select from LOCATION OF ARCHIVES: either Cumbria Record Office and Local Studies Library, Whithaven or Cumbria Record Office, Carlisle Headquarters (c) [optional] Select 'North West' (d) [optional] put in some dates. Frankly, this doesn't work too well. EXAMPLE: Put in STEEL into the Keyword box and Cumbria-Whitehaven into location. RESULT: you get 3 catalogues. STEP 6 press the hits beneath each archive description. The first catalogue has 5 hits - in other words, 5 mentions of Steel. Press this one. As you can see, all the hits are for the Whitehaven Hematite Iron and Steel Co. Ltd. Go back. The second catalogue has one hit. This is a Quaker record: Pardshaw Monthly Meeting Deeds and Schedules FILE - Bond in £200 of Richard Radcliffe of Cockermouth merchant to Isaac Fearon, John Benson, and John Peile, to secure performance of an arbitration award by Thomas Steel and Henry Fisher concerning the conveyance of land adjoining the Quaker Meeting House in Cockermouth and the trusteeship of it. - ref. YDFCF 1/101 - date: 1761 That is as much information as you can get from the entry. You can then apply to Whitehaven to get a copy of the whole document. STEP 7 You may want to see your hit in relation to the whole catalogue. In that case, press 'Table of Contents for this Catalogue' or 'Show the whole catalogue' at the top. If you do the former, and scroll down to YDFCF 1/101, you'll see a repeat of the entry above. But this time there are some other entries (without STEEL) that put the problem of the Cockermouth Burial Ground in perspective. That's, then, the main way of using A2A. Simply enter simple search terms like a SURNAME, a TOWN or a PARISH. You can get lots of scraps of info that can fill in details or suggest leads - but, remember, these are only CATALOGUE entries. Just like using the IGI, you need to go back to the source to find out the details. Remember, too, that not all names in a document will have been abstracted by the person who compiled the catalogue - just the main ones. That is the Standard Search. Ther's also an 'Extended Search' and a 'Special Interest' search. Maybe I'll post about those too later. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

That would be very helpful to me as well Chris (sorry) Patricia And I remembered to cut out most of your posting!! > snip< > Unless someone beats me to it (oh please do, it'll save me a lot > of effort!), I'll do a step-by-step 'how to search' in another > post. > > > Chris > chris@dickinson.uk.net > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jan writes: >Can someone please tell me the best way to use the A2A for the >best results. First, for those of you who don't know about A2A. You can get to it at: http://www.pro.gov.uk/catalogues/a2a.htm To quote the site blurb: "The A2A database contains archive catalogues submitted by archives throughout England". For our purposes, the archives are mostly (but not all) from the records offices at Carlisle and Whitehaven. The database is a wonderful resource, only put online last year (or was it the year before that ... time flies), and is being steadily added to. It's well worth keeping an eye on http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/about/catalogues/new.asp to see what has been added in the preceding month. The database provides you with basic details about what are in individual archives. You can search for things like surnames and place names and get a brief description and a reference. You'll then need to contact the record office (or other repository) to check the original documents. For our purposes, the Cumberland A2A entries are especially strong on Non-Conformist sources (Quakers, Methodists, etc.), but you can get info about all sorts of other things - the Irthing Vale Wanderers Cricket Club, the Carlisle Diocese Mothers' Union, the West Cumberland Whippet Racing Club or the Loyal Solway Lodge of the Independent Order of Oddfellows, Whitehaven (to name a fraction of what is there). Unless someone beats me to it (oh please do, it'll save me a lot of effort!), I'll do a step-by-step 'how to search' in another post. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

I will second that one, Patricia.......Chris, we need your help to wade thru that resource, grin!! Cheers......Heather Still hunting for that mysterious John BOWNESS.......c. 1735-1787 > That would be very helpful to me as well Chris (sorry) > > Patricia > > And I remembered to cut out most of your posting!! > > snip< > > Unless someone beats me to it (oh please do, it'll save me a lot > > of effort!), I'll do a step-by-step 'how to search' in another > > post. > > > > > > Chris > > chris@dickinson.uk.net > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Can someone please tell me the best way to use the A2A for the best results. I don't think I know how to use it to it's full potential. Thanks...all help, welcome :) Jan researching: SHAW, BOADLE, DIXON, NEILL, CONKEY, TOPPING - cumbria BROCKBANK, HERBERT, PARKER - cumbria SHEDD, SPEARS, STICKNEY, JEWETT, BURCH, BLOOD, HALL - usa

Hi Everybody, Can anyone tell me where the Bridge Buildings were in Egremont? This would be c.1865. Any help appreciated. Regards, Bryan

----- Original Message ----- From: H Todd To: ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: help needed Hi all I wonder if anyone from Cumbland, can help a Lancashire lad I have a death cert for a George Haughin (wife's Name Wilhelmina nee Edgar). Died 1958 aged 72, On the 1901 census it puts up just one George Haughin aged 14. On down loading the census details,it show his father William aged 34, mother Ann aged 34. On the 1881 cencus, I find a Thomas HAFFIN head aged 46 Hannah Haughin Wife aged 40 William HOUGHIN son aged 11 I understand that the spelling of the surname could be wrong. BUT can any one link them together from George to Thomas. via the 1891 census.or suply me with information on the Haughin's Thanks in advance. Cheers Bert Ps hope that you could follow the above --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.401 / Virus Database: 226 - Release Date: 09/10/2002

Hi Everybody, I am looking for Robert and Jane CASSON and children, Robert, George and Jane in the 1861 census for Bootle. Any help greatly appreciated. Regards, Bryan

Hi Everybody, I am looking for Robert and Jane CASSON and children, Robert, George and Jane in the 1861 census for Beckermet. Any help greatly appreciated. Regards, Bryan

I found the last one interesting, I got my husband to check as I was not sure that I was reading it right. Also nice to see Edward Fawcett having a day off!! but Samuel Sherwen did not put the Banns dates down! I know some else will have filled the book in. 23rd February 1821 John Jenkinson of this parish, Joiner Judith Wharton of this parish, Spinster Banns with the consent of Parents Samuel Sherwen off minister in the presence of John Wharton Elizabeth Jenkinson Henry Jenkinson Agnes Wigglesworth 21st May 1821 Ferdinand Bolton Bachelor of this Parish, weaver Dinah Scott of this Parish, spinster ( her mark) Banns Samuel Sherwen Off Minister in the presence of John Swain Jane Walker 22nd May 1821 William Henry Chippendale, Batchelor of this parish, Comedian at the Sun Inn Eliza Rochefort Neville, Comedian, of this Parish, Spinster Banns Samuel Sherwen off minister in the presence of W Giles Elizabeth Wilson Patricia Clews

1821 Marriages Cockermouth 6th January Joseph Wilson, Schoolmaster of this parish, Bachelor Ann Hill of this parish, Spinster Banns published December 17th, 24th, 31st Edward Fawcett.A M Minister in the presence of Jonathan Youdale Susana Youdale 12th February 1821 John Nicholson, of this parish, Draper, Batchelor Elizabeth Thompson, of this parish, Spinster Licence Edward Fawcett in the presence of Thomas MacBeth Mary Mark 13th February 1821 Joseph William Robinson of this parish, Surgeon Ann Martindale of this parish, Spinster Licence Edward Fawcett in the presence of John Maxwell Fanny Harrison Patricia Clews

Many thanks to all who have contributed information and details about the ASHBURNER family. I have still not traced a marriage for Samuel and Mary (possibly nee JAMES), but have several clues, and a couple of families who have been carefully eliminated. Thanks again, and best wishes, Roz

In this weeks obituary column of the Cumberland News 11th October 2002 George Iredale 75 years has passed on. He lived both Aspatria and Plumbland. If anyone wants further information or thinks related will pass further info on. Pam

Hi All This comes from: FULL COPYRIGHT NOTICE AND LIMITED REPRODUCTION PERMISSIONS at http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/ " You may transcribe, use and publish the information so long as you acknowledge the PRO as the source and give the appropriate document reference. You may only reproduce the images of documents in hard copy for your personal research, private study or education. " Any comments to me please, not to the list. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-admin@rootsweb.com ENG-CUL-COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com

David I checked back for baptism but unable to find from 1819-1823 but found lots more Hodgson's baptism 1819 April 25th William son of John and Mary Hodgson, Cockermouth, Hatter, Ed Fawcett May 30th Mary daub of Thomas and Hannah Hodgson, Cockermouth, Miller Ed Fawcett July 25th Eleanor dau of John and Hannah Hodgson, Cockermouth, Butcher Ed Fawcett Oct 24th John son of Isaac and Alice Hodgson, Cockermouth, Weaver, Ed Fawcett Dec 12th George son of George and Hannah Hodgson, Cockermouth, Miller, Ed Fawcett 1820 June 25th Joseph son of David and Mary Hodgson, Cockermouth, Skinner, Ed Fawcett July 2nd Elizabeth dau of Joseph and Elizabeth Hodgson, Cockermouth, Painter, Ed Fawcett 1822 June 30th Martha dau of Joseph Hodgson, Weaver, and Jane Dixon,Servant, Cockermouth Ed Fawcett Oct 6th John Wilson son of John and Hannah Hodgson, Cockermouth, Butcher, Ed Fawcett Hope these are some use for you. posting on the list as well Patricia Clews ---

1823 Burials Cockermouth Dinah Henderson, Cockermouth, January 8th, 68, Ed Fawcett John Maxwell, Cockermouth, January 15th, 66, Ed Fawcett Sarah Hodgson, Cockermouth, January 15th, 4, Ed Fawcett Mary Ann Moody, Cockermouth, January 26th, 1, Ed Fawcett Sarah Holmes, Papcastle, January 28th, 26, Ed Fawcett Jacob Coulthard, Allonby, February 2nd, 55, Ed Fawcett William Procter, Cockermouth, February 2nd, 65 Ed Fawcett Mary Gibson, Cockermouth, February 5th, 78 Ed Fawcett Patricia Clews

Burials 1822 Ann Ritson, Cockermouth, May 14th, Infant, Ed Fawcett Margaret Bailey, Cockermouth, June 7th, 62, Ed Fawcett Francis ?Do**ican, Cockermouth, June 12th, 66, Ed Fawcett June Adair, Cockermouth, June 15th, infant, Ed Fawcett Margaret Sowerby, Cockermouth, June 16th, 59, Ed Fawcett Elizabeth White, Cockermouth, June 23rd, 91, Ed Fawcett Sarah Ritson, Cockermouth, July 2nd, 10 Ed Fawcett Jane Hogg, Cockermouth, July 3rd, Jos Lowther, Off Minister Hope these are of some use to someone, Tried every way to read the one for a Francis D but not able to, here are the possibilities( Dowican, Donican, Dunican, Dotuican, Davison??) Patricia Clews

Just by way of elimination I have one Margaret Ashburner around this period in the Aldingham area close to Bardsea. JOHN ASHBURNER born 1788 m AGNES GAWTH in 1816. They had two daughters MARGARET (birthdate unknown by me) married c. 1856 JOHN COWARD born Colt Park, Aldingham 1805 and farmed Windhill near there. 3 sons, John, Thomas and Joseph. SARAH married 1858 ROBERT SLATER. Their daughter AGNES married THOMAS COWARD son of JOHN and MARGARET and therefore they were first cousins. No direct help but it may serve to cross one MARGARET off your list. The Ashburners in Furness are off our direct line but keep criss-crossing it. Our main descent is from the COWARD family of Colt Park. Jill Coulthard

>From Caesar Caine: 'A History of the Rural Dean of Whitehaven' [1916] " THE CLERGY 1645 RICHARD WILLIAMSON 1650-1669 ANTHONY BRAGG. Buried April 21st, 1669 1670 JEFFREY WIBURGH, LL.B 1674 ROBERT FISHER 1680 JOSEPH BENN 1690 JOHN NICHOLSON. He is referred to in the Registers, not as Curate, but as 'Reader'. A little later, 1694, he, himself, signs as 'Curate'. His burial is recorded in the Register January 24, 1725, aged 82 1723 ANTHONY NICHOLSON. Death recorded December 16th, 1760 1761 CLEMENT NICHOLSON. Clement Nicholson was admitted Reader at 'Ulpha in the parish of Millom' by the Rev. Matthew Postlethwaite, Vicar of Millom ... He was licensed to the Chapelry of Ennerdale, on the nomination of Mrs. Frances Langton, of Whitehaven, widow ... on the 17th of November 1761. He became Curate of Lamplugh, 6th of February 1772 (his birth-day), being nominated by the Rev. Richard Dickenson, Rector of Lamplugh. 1777 CLEMENT MOSCROP was admitted Reader at Ennerdale, 10th of March, 1766. He was made deacon 21st of July same year at Chester. He became Priest 20th of August, 1777. He was presented to Ennerdale on the nomination of Frances Hamilton, Nancy Langton, Elizabeth Watts, and Isabella Spedding. 1785 JAMES PONSONBY. James Ponsonby was ordained Deacon by Beilby Porteus, Bishop of Chester, 18th of April 1784. On the nomination of Mrs. Frances Hamilton, Elizabeth Watts, Isabella Spedding, and Miss Anne Langton, Spinster Patronesses, he was licensed to the Chapelry of Ennerdale after being ordained Priest 17th of July, 1785. 1820 JOSEPH GILBANKS. (Signs the register). 1826 HENRY REYNOLDS (Signs the Register). 1826 JOSHUA CLARKE (Signs the Register). 1831 J. C. SHAW (Signs the Register 1831). The death of John Campbell Shaw is recorded April 28th, 1846. 1848 WILLIAM MALONE JUKES. Mr. Jukes had been at Cleator perviously (1844) and married one of the Robertsons of Mill House there. His monument stands in the Ennerdale Churchyard. 1876 JOHN WORDSWORTH 1878 W. L. PENDRED 1884 JOSHUA TYSON 1903 THOMAS PRICE 1909 A. H. COOPER PARISH CLERKS Only one or two names of the old Clerks have been recovered. Joseph Fisher, innkeeper of 'The Bridge' was clerk in 1765. Reference has already been made to William Lamb. No list has been preserved. I have secured a number of other names covering the last seventy years: John Reay John Martin Hunter Jackson Daniel Robinson John Robinson Joseph Robinson Birkley Key " Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

And, coz I need a break from some work, here are the earliest Iredell entries from the Loweswater parish registers (photocopy from a poor quality film from a patchy register. Most of the ?s are from a dark photocopy that would be solved by looking at the original) : 1626 Peter Iredell son of John of Thackthwait baptized ye xxixth day of Ju?? ??? Iredell daughter of Tho: of Waterend baptized vith ?????? ??? Iredell wife of William buryed xxix of november ??? Iredell son of Thomas of Thackthwaite buryed xx of xber 1627 Thomas Iredell son of Will of Gillerthat (base begotten) baptized iv november Janet Iredell daughter of George of peill baptized xvi february 1628 Jennet Iredell daughter of Tho: of Church Strate baptized ii february Thomas Burnyeat & Margaret Iredell marryed xii Jury Robert Iredell & Ellinor Jackson marryed xxvi April 1629 John Iredell son of George of Gillerthat baptized ?????? William Iredell son of Tho: of Waterend baptized ????? John Iredell son of George of peill baptized xx??? John Iredell son of John of Thackthat baptized ????? John Iredell son of George of peill buryed viii january 1630 Thomas Iredell son of George of peill baptized xxiv february 1631 [early entries too dark to read] Issabell Iredell daughter of Tho: of Waterend baptized xi Martii John Iredell son of George of Gillerthat buryed vi november 1632 John Iredell son of Will: of Waterend shoemaker bapt xx April Thomas Iredell son of John of Thackt bapt xxiv Martii Peter Iredell & Annas Burnyeat married x April No further entries until 1665 Chris chris@sdickinson.uk.net