Mary Brownrigg (nee Spedding) inherited from her father John Spedding, who died in 1758, an interest in a ropery in Whitehaven. William Brownrigg, who was acting for his wif Mary as administrator of the will, sold the ropery for £1,800. He advanced £750 of the proceeds to Anthony Benn, who had married Mary's niece, Margaret Spedding, half of which was to be held for Mary in Benn's name. This venture does not seem to have been a success. In 1789 the ropery was up for sale, and William was complaining that he had not received any accounts. Source: H.Brownrigg.

Hi again Heather, I'm currently researching the life of William Brownrigg of Whitehaven 1711-1800, and have discovered that his brother-in-law, a Charles Wood, was involved in some way in mining and assaying on Jamaica prior to 1741. It was he who obtained a sample of platinum, whilst there, that had originated in Cartegena in Colombia, and imported it into Europe for the first time. He had Brownrigg carry out experiments on it, following his own, on which Brownrigg subsequently submitted a paper to the Royal Society. Any details on Wood, and what he was up to over there? Dave (Florence Mine Heritage Centre, Egremont) > Any 'brick walls' from anyone else???? Plus, I do run across Cumberland > people in Jamaica and would be happy to look up any info for people on > these Lists. > > Cheers......Heather > > ______________________________

If you have relatives from Cumbria or Lancashire that were involved in commerce or textile manufacturing, you find this book extremely interesting. It is very well researched and contains hundreds of citations. Rev. Rigg tells this story by describing the lives and times of the players. The major problem with this book is that it is scarce. I have found copies at the following university libraries: Harvard, Princeton, Univ. of Toronto, Univ. of Newcastle, Oxford. (I have the Harvard copy now on inter-library loan.) I would like to buy a copy, but the only reference that I can find now on the web is a 1995 list of reports and publications that had been donated to the UK Parliament. I have also found 2 books by this author at the British Library. The title mentioned above has a Shelfmark of: YC.1995.a.3214 If any of you are aware of a bookstore that may carry this title, I would be interested. Thanks _____________________ Tim Anderson Gaithersburg, Maryland

Hi Dave........ OK, I have been over most of the Jamaican website that is the 'Bible' for a lot of us and there is no Charles Wood mentioned that I can see. However.......bear in mind that a lot of the info is for people who either were born, married or died in Jamaica. If he just visited and then went back to England, it would be tougher to find any mention of him. I didn't see anything in the early Civil Lists......but 1741 is a bit early for that sort of thing. There are a few Almanacs for the 1700's, but mostly for the 1800's. I am going to put your query out on my Caribbean List and see if any of the knowledgeable folks on there can help. Odd coincidence......my Figueroas 'originated' in Cartagena, Colombia, grin. So had a peek at the latest on them.......a couple of interesting items. I will put your email address on the Carib query, and hopefully someone will be able to help. Heather > Hi again Heather, > I'm currently researching the life of William > Brownrigg of Whitehaven 1711-1800, and have discovered that his > brother-in-law, a Charles Wood, was involved in some way in mining and > assaying on Jamaica prior to 1741. It was he who obtained a sample of > platinum, whilst there, that had originated in Cartegena in Colombia, > and imported it into Europe for the first time. He had Brownrigg carry > out experiments on it, following his own, on which Brownrigg > subsequently submitted a paper to the Royal Society. > Any details on Wood, and what he was up to over there? > > Dave > (Florence Mine Heritage Centre, Egremont) > > > Any 'brick walls' from anyone else???? Plus, I do run across > Cumberland > > people in Jamaica and would be happy to look up any info for people > on > > these Lists. > > > > Cheers......Heather > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Listers, I found William and Isabella GOULDING and family in the 1851 census living in Brewery Yard in Cockermouth but I could not find them at all in the 1861 census and thought they had either moved or been missed by the census taker. I've now received the death certificate for Isabella who died at Brewery Yard on November 8, 1870 so that implies they still lived there when the 1861 census was taken. Referring to the notes I took when scanning the 1861 census, the only Goulding I recorded in Cockermouth was a Peter Goulding on Derwent Street. By the time of the 1871 census, five months after his wife's death, William had moved to Kirkgate with his two youngest children, Margaret and John. If anyone has any records of the residents of Brewery Yard in 1861 that might show I just missed them (easy to do with microfiche!), I would appreciate it. Depending upon when the older children left home, an entry might also show Esther, Henry, William and Margaret still living with their parents. I know it was quite common for people to be missed by census takers but if any of you have any thoughts or suggestions for me, I would welcome them. Regards, Roger Park Atlanta, Georgia USA zimmerhouse@bellsouth.net

> Is there anyone who has the transcripts or other access to Parish Records from the planet Zarg? Is there a Penrith on that Planet? > I am coming to the belief that, like so many of my ancestors (and other people's), he just appeared from the planet Zarg. However, unlike so many others he did not go back there having married and had a horde of children as I do know when and where he died. His wife Jane SOWERBY also seems to be a Zargian, born about 1785 but don't know where. > Ha ha ha.......love it. I think my mysterious John Bowness, born about 1735, is also from this same planet!! So if anyone stumbles across the Zarg Parish Records, please let me know...... He too had a wife, 7 children, and I found the Admon assigning his wife to distribute the assets.......but as to him, I am totally up against a brick wall. Maybe we should do some 'brick wall' posts from others who are stuck. Who knows.....maybe someone will recognize a name. If it hadn't been for both Chris and Karlena, I would have thought this man landed here from outer space. Karlena had his name only, as marrying one of her ancestors........and I eventually found more information in Flimby for both her Allanby ancestors and my Bowness ones. You never know when a name will strike a chord with someone. I am forever indebted to Karlena for that information. Any 'brick walls' from anyone else???? Plus, I do run across Cumberland people in Jamaica and would be happy to look up any info for people on these Lists. Cheers......Heather

Malcolm Borrowdale writes: >Is there anyone who has the transcripts or other access to >Parish Records from the planet Zarg? Is there a Penrith on that >Planet? I have still not been able to find any baptism record >for my ggg-grandfather Joseph BORROWDALE (or other >spelling). He apparently claimed to have been born in Penrith >about 1789 (don't know what that is in Years of the Prophet >Zarkwon, though). Other family marriages and baptisms >appear in records of St Andrew's Penrith 1795ish About 5473 ZM (Old Calendar) or 473 MZ (New Calendar, after the flight of Zarkwon from Zarg to Mars). This isn't by any chance one of those 'this is my first so I'll go home to Mum - but I won't tell little Joe just so that he can misinform the 1841 census ...' scenarios? Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Is there anyone who has the transcripts or other access to Parish Records from the planet Zarg? Is there a Penrith on that Planet? I have still not been able to find any baptism record for my ggg-grandfather Joseph BORROWDALE (or other spelling). He apparently claimed to have been born in Penrith about 1789 (don't know what that is in Years of the Prophet Zarkwon, though). Other family marriages and baptisms appear in records of St Andrew's Penrith 1795ish to 1850s, then in Christchurch Penrith so it appears that he is likely to appear in a Church of England parish somewhere. I am coming to the belief that, like so many of my ancestors (and other people's), he just appeared from the planet Zarg. However, unlike so many others he did not go back there having married and had a horde of children as I do know when and where he died. His wife Jane SOWERBY also seems to be a Zargian, born about 1785 but don't know where. Malcolm Borrowdale (Swinton, Lancs.) PS He is not the Joseph Borrowdale born Whitehaven 1785.

Wm Birket of Workington 1712 1/16 part ye shipp providence 49-04-10 1/16 part of the ship Love 34-0-00 1/14 part pf the shipp Loves increase 50-00-00 1/16 part of the ship welcome 20-00-00 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

John Barras of Whitehaven, Marriner 1720 a Share in the Ship Hope 1/24 30-0-0 a Share of the Hopewell 1/32 30-0-0 a Share of the Felicity 1/32 20-0-0 a Share of the Brotherhood 1/16 20-0-0 a Share of the Loyalty 1/32 1/36 11-0-0 a Share of the Isable 1/32 20-0-0 a Share of the Potomak 16 16-0-0 a Share of the Hanah Maria 16 24-0-0 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net [I wasn't aborad in an earlier post - a line got displaced!]

Henry Singleton of Whitehaven, yeoman 1719 1/8th part of the ship Endeavour 40-00-00 1/16th part of the Parton Merchant 10-00-00 1/16 of the Providence 14-00-00 1/4th of the Henry 80-00-00 1/8 of the Amety 100-00-00 1/16th and 1/48th part of the Patience abroad 10-00-00 1/16th of the William, abroad 10-00-00 1/8th of the Recovery 10-00-00 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Stephen Beck of Whitehaven, Rope Maker 1719 8 Barrels of American Tarr at 12s Barrl 4-16-00 11 Barrels Norway Tarr at 17s 9-07-00 [various rope yarns] an old Rotten Boat, Anchor and Netts 0-10-00 1/16th part of the Ship Loves increase of Workington 12-00-00 1/32th part of the Mary Gold of Workington 6-00-00 1/32th part of the Boneta of Whitehaven 100-12-2 chris@dickinson.uk.net now abroad

Francis Whiteside of Whitehaven 1692 A Sixth part of ye ship Love 90-0-0 Tallys for do & wages when recd 100-0-0 A Sixteenth part of ye Ship Freeman And his part of her Cargo of Tobacco 100-0-0 A Sixteenth part of ye Ship James 30-0-0 Tallyes for do 10-0-0 An Eight part of Ship Welcome 20-0-0 Kings pay for all when recd besides Tallyes A Sixteenth part of ye Ship Crown now in France & her King's pay Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

The Spedding family of Whitehaven did very well for themselves. Carlisle Spedding was agent to Sir James Lowther and an important name in the history of Cumbrian mining. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Ann Brownrigg writes: 'It is Daniel Magson's will of 1670, brother-in-law of Gawen Brownrigg.' Yes, thanks Ann. I'm relieved that you were able to identify the name for me. In private correspondence, Ann and I have come to the same conclusions (more or less) about Richard Tubman. My 'assumptions' look valid in the light of usually cruel facts. I've noticed that, as well as entries in 'Cumberland Families and Heraldry' about Tubmans and Dickinsons, there is an entry about the Brownriggs of Ormathwaite - starting with a Gawen Brownrigg of Millbeck, Keswick, with sons Giles, Henry and George. For any of you researching long-established Cumberland names, and at the risk of boring quite a number of you, I'll reiterate the value of buying 'Cumberland Families and Heraldry' by C. Roy Hudleston and RS Boumphrey. Published by the Cumberland & Westmorland Antiquarian & Archaeological Society, it's 400 pages of family biography - a Burkes Gentry for the Cumberland yeomanry. The book should still be in print and available for purchase on the internet. Someone should do something similar for the influx of Cornish and Irish in the nineteenth century. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Hi Ann and Chris...... Your names caught my eye. I am researching John Bowness of Whitehaven, (1737-1787 roughly) and his children. His wife was from Flimby. I have noticed both Spedding and Brownrigg many times for two reasons. The minister of either St. James or Holy Trinity (1:30 am here and not looking for my notes, grin)......was a Thomas Spedding who must have had at least 14 children......and Brownrigg is a name stuck in my memory banks, as it is a family here in the Maritimes in Canada and the lawyer I worked for was married to a Brownrigg descendant. I haven't followed up on the Brownriggs over here, but I should imagine they emigrated to Newfoundland, as Ann was from there. Maritimers (people of Nfld, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick) tended to stay close to home until well into the 1900's. Our Bowness family didn't leave the Island until Dad did in 1928. And they arrived there in 1820. Just thought I would mention the Brownriggs in particular as I could search thru some of the online censuses for Newfoundland. I am pretty sure I didn't run across it in PEI, but did find one of Fred Mantey's Barwise's in PEI........as well as Jamaica. It is certainly a very small world, isn't it. I found one of my Bowness Islanders worked in the same bank in Jamaica as my husband did!! Heather > Mary Spedding (?-1794), dau. of John of Whitehaven who died in 1758, > married William Brownrigg, Dr. (1712-1800) of Whitehaven on 6 August, 1741. > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Mary Spedding (?-1794), dau. of John of Whitehaven who died in 1758, married William Brownrigg, Dr. (1712-1800) of Whitehaven on 6 August, 1741.

Many thanks, Chris. It is Daniel Magson's will of 1670, brother-in-law of Gawen Brownrigg.

Hi All You know how it is! You are in the middle of photcopying at your local LDS, someone asks to use the microfilm printer, you rewind the film, drop all your notes, get stuck into a conversation; and completely fail to note down what you've just photocopied! Well, that's my excuse anyway. In my Odds & Ends file, I have the second page of a 1672 will - and I have no idea where it comes from. The signature looks like ..ayson [Grayson?]. There are some possibilities in Ramsden's Copeland Wills. Anyway, and entirely by coincidence, the subject of Brownrigg and Tubman has come up on the Cumbria Rootsweb message board; and that's just what this will deals with. The will mentions a cousin William Tubman of Bootle; and a cousin John Tubman of moore end; and a cousin Edward Tubman of Ravenglass. It also mentions 'my brother Gawin Brownrigg', 'my nephew George Brownrigg', 'my ...... [photocopy too faint to read safely ... uncle Pearson?] Tubman'. It also appoints as executor 'my Cousin Richard Tubman of Tallentyre'. This is why I noticed the will - this is possibly the Richard Tubman of Muncaster, milner, who married my great-etc-aunt Elizabeth Dickinson of Streetgate Lamplugh in 1656. I've always assumed that they were the same Richard but I've just realised that I have no proof and haven't done some elementary checking to verify the connection! The identification would rest on the following: Richard Tubman had, among others in the Bridekirk registers, children Robert and Edward (possibly the Edward above?). Robert Tubman, mercer, of Cockermouth married Frances Lamplugh, daughter of the rector of Lamplugh. Elizabeth Dickinson's father, William, was Steward to John Lamplugh of Lamplugh Hall, Frances' uncle. If this is a Grayson will, then that would be all part of the same kinship group. Elizabeth's niece, Faith Dickinson, married John Hamilton of Whitehaven; and the Hamiltons and Graysons were closely related. Plenty of other Whitehaven/Cockermouth names come into this steamy little package - NICHOLSON, BRAITHWAITE, GALE, TOWERSON, IRTON, CHRISTIAN, FLETCHER, to name a few. So ... anyone care to throw some tidbits (oops, that's an Americanism - should have written 'titbit') into the stew? Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Some items from his probate inventory: Candles 0-6-0 11 doz white ware 2-15-0 razors 0-3-9 White paper 0-10-0 40 Thousand nails 2-10-0 75 Corkes 1-5-4 4 pound Hemp 0-2-6 tobacco and pipes 1-15-0 Combs 0-3-0 Curtains 0-5-0 6 pairs of sheets and table lining 1-2-6 glue 0-8-6 billes whips rayzors & girdes 1-10-0 1 cow 1 horse 1 maire 6-0-0 Dove tailes 0-15-0 Starch sugar and pepper 1-1-0 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net