Joseph BOWMAN of Whitehaven, Marriner, 1717 One Sixteenth part of the William & Mary 50:00:00 One Sixteenth of the Ship Dorathy 48:00:00 One Sixteenth of the Ship Pearl 40:00:00 One Sixteenth of the Hopewell Betty 15:00:00 One Sixteenth of the Rainbow 10:00:00 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Mel Cowin writes: <snip> >The November 2002 issue of the Cumbria History Society gives a >list of 1851 census awaiting publication. Dean is one of these. >Barbara Smith, the census co-ordinator, says that of the places >listed as awaiting publication 99% have been transcribed. Thanks, Mel. Now that's frustrating - the transcription has been done but isn't yet available! Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Pam, Robinson Court was in Duke Street but I don't know where. Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Haile" <pamhaile@hotmail.com> > Hello everyone, I have just found a family connection living in Robinson > Court, Whitehaven in 1861. Does anyone know where it was? > TIA Pam

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dickinson" <chris@dickinson.uk.net> > Can anyone confirm that a Cumbria FHS 1851 booklet for Dean does > NOT exist? Chris, The November 2002 issue of the Cumbria History Society gives a list of 1851 census awaiting publication. Dean is one of these. Barbara Smith, the census co-ordinator, says that of the places listed as awaiting publication 99% have been transcribed. Mel

Some years ago I came by a copy of a picture of Wilfrid LAWSON, who was hoping to be elected as MP for Cockermouth - on the back of the picture is his election statement, which makes interesting reading (see below). The picture and address is undated but according to his write-up in the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica was sometime between 1886-1900 - the years he represented Cockermouth as its Member of Parliament. To the Electors of the Cockermouth Division Gentlemen, The dissolution again puts a seat in Parliament at your disposal, and, for the third time I now solicit your suffrages. Amongst the few praiseworthy achievements of the late Parliament were the Local Government Act and the Act for providing Free Education for the people. These had my cordial support as far as they went, but I am in favour of extending the principle of Self-Government to Local Councils and of giving the ratepayers a voice in the management of schools which receive grants from the National Exchequer. As regards the former Act, I am also in favour of abolishing the Standing Joint Committee and of transferring its present duties to the County Council. As a Liberal and a Home Ruler I have strenuously opposed the policy adopted by the present Ministry of attempting to govern Ireland by unjust, unequal, and unconstitutional laws. I shall continue to support Mr Gladstone in his efforts to establish a Parliament in Ireland for the administration of purely Irish affairs, as in my opinion the experience of centuries has conclusively shown that there is no other way of effecting a real union of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. I am in favour of what is called "The Newcastle Programme" in all its items, and I trust the early settlement of the Irish question will enable Parliament to deal with the much needed reforms set forth in that programme. All measures calculated to improve the condition and fulfil the just demands of the working classes will have my earnest sympathy. Amongst these I may enumerate a legal Eight Hours Day for Miners, a thorough Reform of the Registration Laws, "One Man One Vote", the Taxation of Royalty and Ground Rents, the Division of Local Rates between Landlord and Tenant, and the Payment of Members of Parliament, as such payment of members would enable the working classes to secure a direct representation in Parliament, more commensurate than has been the case with the magnitude and importance of their interests. My opinions on the Temperance and kindred questions are already known to you, and I need not say how much satisfaction it affords me that, after many years of labour on behalf of what I believe to be the greatest of all reforms before us, I have lived to see the policy of the Direct Popular Veto on the Liquor Traffic officially recognised by the Liberal Party and its leaders. Awaiting your verdict with confidence, I remain, yours faithfully, Wilfrid Lawson -- Cheers, Anne mailto:docwras@yahoo.co.uk The Docwra Family Research Project http://resource.at/docwra

Can anyone confirm that a Cumbria FHS 1851 booklet for Dean does NOT exist? I've had a look at: http://64.177.198.178/genuki/cfhspub.html and can't see one there, so am presuming the Census hasn't been transcribed for that area. The original records for Dean are available on LDS film. A new subscriber is interested, so here are the film numbers: 1841 0241276 1851 0087115 1861 0543209 1871 0847446 Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Has anyone ever heard of the artist named Edward Alcock? A portrait of Dr. William Brownrigg [1712-1800], (in knee-breeches) at Isel Hall, is attributed to him. Ann Brownrigg

Hello everyone, I have just found a family connection living in Robinson Court, Whitehaven in 1861. Does anyone know where it was? TIA Pam _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

That should be 26th march 1830, Hannah dau of James Hennie and Mary Graham Sorry it was on two pages, turned over and forgot the name Regards Patricia Clews

<A HREF="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/YKS/Pavers1595-6.html">GENUKI: Paver's Marriage Licenses for the year 1595 and 1596.</A> Pam

This may be of use to other researchers. <A HREF="http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm">Latin Dictionary and Grammar Aid</A> Pam

1827 Baptism 18th March, William son of Joseph Graham, Fireman, Cockermouth and Hannah Garnet, Widow, Ed Fawcett. 1828 Baptism 10th February, Margaret dau of Richard and Dinah Graham, Labourer, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1829 Burial 25th July, Joseph Graham, 76, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett. 1830 Baptism 26th March, Dau of James Hennie, Husbandman, Tallentire, Bridekirk. and Mary Graham, Servant, Mofset, Brigham,Ed Fawcett 1830 Baptism 28th November John son of Joseph and Elizabeth Graham, Brayier? Ed Fawcett. 1831 Burial 11th December, Elizabeth Graham, 11, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett Patricia Clews

I've mentioned this site before now: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/ but 77000 Lancashire marriages seem to have been added since I last looked - so some of you may want to have a look again. The current County totals are: Births Marriages Deaths Cheshire 1,182,106 484,352 406,480 Yorkshire 766,834 115,878 7 Lancashire 0 77,358 0 Newcastle ? ? ? Middlesbrough ? ? ? Cambridgeshire ? ? ? Staffordshire to come. Hmm, Cumberland ???!!! Some of you may have seen an 1837 site being advertised recently. Be wary as the PRO seems to have no knowledge of it. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-admin@rootsweb.com ENG-CUL-COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com

1813 Burial July 15th, James Graham, 70, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1814 Baptism 9th October, Mary dau of John and Mary Graham, Labourer, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 6th December Jane dau of Thomas and Jane Graham, Weaver, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1815 Baptism 19th February Frances dau of George and Mary Graham, Watchmaker, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett. 21st December William son of Walter and Jane Graham, Bleacher, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett Burial 25th December, William Graham, infant, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1816 Baptism 25th January Elizabeth dau of George and Elizabeth Graham, Butcher, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett Burial 6th January Mary Graham, 1, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1817 Baptism 3rd Aug, Samuel son of Richard and Dinah Graham, Husbandman, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1818 Burial 1st February, Jane Graham,1, Cockermouth, J Benson off Minister 1819 Baptism 14th March, Elizabeth dau of George and Mary Graham, Watchmaker, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1819 Burial 23rd May, Adelina Graham, 1,Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1820 Baptism 30th January, John son of Joseph and Ann Graham, ? Maltster, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 16th June, Thomas son of George and Elizabeth Graham, Labourer, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 12th Nov, Luna, dau of George and Elizabeth Graham, Butcher, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 12 th Nov, Thomas son of George and Elizabeth Graham, Butcher, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1821 Baptism 21st April, Elizabeth dau of Richard and Dinah Graham, labourer, Cockermouth, S Sherwen, off Minister 7th oct, Timothy, son of George and Mary Graham, Watchmaker, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1822 Baptism 26th Sept, Mary dau of George and Elizabeth Graham, Butcher, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1823 Burial 1st April, William Graham, 17, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 27th June, Harrison Graham, 10, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett hope they help someone Patricia Clews

1781 Marriage 8th November Thomas Steel, Shoemaker Alice Birkett, Spinster Banns 1782 Burial, January 27th Elizabeth daughter of John Steel 1814 Baptism 15th February, Cotward Bowe, Son of Joseph and Mary, Att of Law. Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett. ( this is what the first name looked like, above) if any one know different please let me know for my files 1819 Marriage 2nd October Miles Steel, solicitor Ann Hodgson, spinster Licence Ed Fawcett In the presence of William Senhouse Mary Hodgson 1820 Baptism 16th January, Sarah dau of John and Elizabeth, Blacksmith, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett. 1820 Marriage, 2nd May John Steel, Gentleman Jane Hodgson, Spinster Licence, Ed Fawcett Joseph Steel John Ladyman 1820 Burial 12th January, Thomas Steel, 62, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett, Coroners inquest Lunacy 1821 Burial 6th march, Thomas Steel, 76, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett 1823 Burial 3rd April, John Steel, 28 Cockermouth, JS Lowther 21st July, Hanah Steel, 74, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett, Coroners inquest Accidentally run over by a horse 1824 4th July, John Steel, 75, Cockermouth, Ed Fawcett hope these are of some use to someone Patricia Clews

I wonder if anyone has the 1861 or 1871 census index for Whitehaven and could do me a lookup, please. I am trying to find my husband's 2x great grandparents, Robert and Isabella Cooper. A son, William, was born in 1856 and they were living at 73 George Street then. Many thanks, Jennifer from Leeds.

Hello everyone, I wonder if there is anyone reading this who could look for Bernard McIntyre and his wife Margaret in 1851 in Branthwaite. They might be living with Margaret's family. TIA Pam _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

I had not noticed Rod Neep's reply that in fact he might be able to do a CD of this book before my last post that the book was still in copyright. That is great. Does anyone know what has happened to the Rev. Mr. Rigg? Is he still alive? His solicitors are Hewitson and Harker in Kirkby Stephen. Is there anyone who can make an inquiry by phone to that office about the Rev. Mr. Rigg and the possibility of future publications of his book? _____________________ Tim Anderson Gaithersburg, Maryland

The Archive CD Books Project appears to be dealing with books that are out or copyright and in the public domain. Rigg's book copyright date is 1994. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Tanner" <rtanner@trump.net.au> To: <ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [CUL-COP] "Cumbria, Slavery, and the Textile Industrial Revolution," A. N. Rigg, Penrith,1994 > How about getting Rod Neep interested? > > http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/ > > Regards, > Robert. > > At 04:35 PM 24-11-02, you wrote: > >Ann -- > >Thanks, I read it from cover to cover yesterday and then sent it > >back (I had it on interlibrary loan from Harvard). I found this > >book by Rev. A. Neville Rigg to be extremely well researched. He > >cites primary sources as well as such things as unpublished Ph.D. > >dissertations. There are page after page of names and dates. I > >would think that someone (or group) interested in Cumbrian genealogy > >might want to consider making a reprint of this book (with whatever > >arrangements are appropriate with the author and his solicitors). > >I have found an email address for Michael Moon and will make an > >inquiry there. > >Tim > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ann Brownrigg" <rmbcgg@racsa.co.cr> > >To: <ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:51 AM > >Subject: [CUL-COP] "Cumbria, Slavery, and the Textile Industrial > >Revolution," A. N. Rigg, Penrith,1994 > > > > > > > A kind friend skimmed through this at the BL. It is a strange > >book: no > > > publisher, just the address 'Hewitson and Harker, Kirkby Stephen, > >solicitors > > > acting for Rev. A.N Rigg'. If anyone wants to obtain a copy and if > >the > > > solicitors are not forthcoming, it was suggested that they try > >Michael Moon > > > of Whitehaven, an antiquarian bookseller specialising in Cumbrian > >local > > > history. > > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > Robert Tanner In Aus, phone (03) 6231 0794 > PO Box 539 From OS, phone +61 3 6231 0794 > North Hobart > Tasmania 7002 rtanner@trump.net.au > Australia > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~robtan/home.html > > ______________________________

How about getting Rod Neep interested? http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/ Regards, Robert. At 04:35 PM 24-11-02, you wrote: >Ann -- >Thanks, I read it from cover to cover yesterday and then sent it >back (I had it on interlibrary loan from Harvard). I found this >book by Rev. A. Neville Rigg to be extremely well researched. He >cites primary sources as well as such things as unpublished Ph.D. >dissertations. There are page after page of names and dates. I >would think that someone (or group) interested in Cumbrian genealogy >might want to consider making a reprint of this book (with whatever >arrangements are appropriate with the author and his solicitors). >I have found an email address for Michael Moon and will make an >inquiry there. >Tim >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ann Brownrigg" <rmbcgg@racsa.co.cr> >To: <ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:51 AM >Subject: [CUL-COP] "Cumbria, Slavery, and the Textile Industrial >Revolution," A. N. Rigg, Penrith,1994 > > > > A kind friend skimmed through this at the BL. It is a strange >book: no > > publisher, just the address 'Hewitson and Harker, Kirkby Stephen, >solicitors > > acting for Rev. A.N Rigg'. If anyone wants to obtain a copy and if >the > > solicitors are not forthcoming, it was suggested that they try >Michael Moon > > of Whitehaven, an antiquarian bookseller specialising in Cumbrian >local > > history. > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Robert Tanner In Aus, phone (03) 6231 0794 PO Box 539 From OS, phone +61 3 6231 0794 North Hobart Tasmania 7002 rtanner@trump.net.au Australia http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~robtan/home.html