Some listers in the former colonies might like to see this picture of a model of the original abbey chuch at Holm Cultram which is in the new Solway Coast Discovery Centre in Silloth. http://users.tinyworld.co.uk/peterostle/early1.jpg If anyone would like a bigger, better version, mail me off-list. Hope this isn't "off-topic" Chris! Peter Ostle visit the family websites at www.ostle.ca