Judy Marsden writes: >My husband's gr grandmother, Hannah Briscoe, has on her death >cert. parents Daniel Briscoe & mother Hannah Harper of >Cockermouth.Hannah Briscoe was born July 1839 in C'mouth. >Have found no record of a Hannah Harper b between >1815 - 1820 in Cul. Can anyone suggest anything? A couple of possibilities that you can explore. Harper may have been Hannah's married name rather than maiden name. In which case, you need to look for a marriage between Daniel Briscoe and a Hannah, rather than a birth or baptism of a Harper. Hannah , even if she only married once, may have been considerably older than you are assuming. What was the date of birth of her youngest child? Not all women married before the age of 25! Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Good afternoon, Could anyone tell me in which parish Junction Street would fall into in the 1901 census. I'm trying to trace some relatives and the only info I have is that they lived here. Thanks Rose Edy Durban

Hi All, My Anderson family were living at 14 Castle Street Carlisle in 1861 and I would love to find them in 1871. Thomas Anderson age 50 Police Sergeant b Scaleby Catherine Anderson age 43 b Carlisle Mary Elizabeth Anderson age 17 b Carlisle Annie Anderson age 16 b Carlisle Thomas Bowman Anderson age 10 b Carlisle. Would also like to hear from anyone who can connect to this family. TIA. Regards K in Devon

snip>My Anderson family were living at 14 Castle Street Carlisle in 1861 and I would love to find them in 1871. Thomas Anderson age 50 Police Sergeant b Scaleby I don't know if you are aware but there are constbulary records held at Carlisle Castle, for the 1800's this gives age, height, colouring, previous occupations, where served in different areas of Cumbria and distingushing marks. I found my gt grandfather just by tracing his name in the records. Pam

Hi Everybody, Just saying thanks to all those people who replied regarding the above subject, these things are so tempting to open - especially when they are in reply to one of your own subject headings. I have now deleted the file. Kind Regards, Bryan

Hi Again..... Here are the rest of them........from Holy Trinity and St. James. One Dockeray in here, Anne. Cheers.......Heather Holy Trinity BT’s, Film 90678, Parish of St. Bees....... Marriages...... 19 April 1770 - Lancelot DICKINSON & Jane Westra 16 Sept 1819 - Mary DICKINSON, widow, & James DAWES, mariner, by banns, Witnesses: Richard DURANT & Isaac KIRKBRIDE 24 Sept.1819 - William COULTHARD, mariner, & Jane CALLOW, single woman, by Licence, Witnesses: Ann DICKINSON & Mary PONSONBY 2 Oct. 1819 - John COULTHARD & Elizabeth WALTER, by Banns Witnesses: Isaac KIRKBRIDE & Robert PAYNE. ST. JAMES PARISH RECORDS......Film 90680..... Baptisms.... 7 April 1816 - John, son of John & Margaret COULTHARD of New Lowther St., Whitehaven, Mariner. 19 May 1816 - Isabella, daughter of William & Elizabeth DOCKERAY, father labourer, of Harris near Whitehaven 6 Oct 1816 - Joseph, son of Wilkinson & Ann MOSSOP of George St., Whitehaven, father a Joiner. 15 Dec. 1816 - John, son of Jane (or June) MOSSOP of Scotch St., Whitehaven, Single Woman. 31 Dec. 1816 - Jane, daughter of Adam SCOTT & Jane PEILE, OF Cankickle near Whitehaven, a Brewer.

Hi All........ I found a lot of Mossops and Dickinsons and one Borrowdale, while looking up something for another List Member. And I had told Jill I would keep an eye out for her Mossops.........and thought I would keep the Listowner happy as well......grin!! So here is Part One of what I found........this is strictly for St. Nicholas BT's.........I will put Holy Trinity and St. James out later. Have fun. Hope these help someone. Cheers.....Heather Transcriptions from Whitehaven Parish Records St. Nicholas BT’s, LDS Film #90658....... Baptisms...... 16 June 1816 - Joseph, son of David & Sarah DICKINSON, husbandman, of St. Bees. 4 Jan. 1816 - Mary, daughter of Jonathan & Elizabeth BORROWDALE, Coulderton, husbandman, according to Certificate of Borrowdale transmitted (hard to read) 3 Nov 1816 - Sarah, daughter of Richard & Sarah DICKINSON, Lowrigg, farmer. 25 March 1832 - Jane, daughter of Henry & Eleanor MOSSOP, farmer, Endside. 17 Apr. 1832 - Sharp, son of William & Ann MOSSOP, St. Bees, labourer 15 July 1838 - these are definitely twins..........2 separate entries of course. Jill verified that. Catherine ........and Anne........ both daughters of Clement & Martha MOSSOP, Rottington Hall, farmer. 18 Sept 1839 - John? son of Henry & Mary MOSSOP, Desmesne, farmer 24 May 1840 - John, son of Henry & Eleanor MOSSOP, Endside, farmer 2 Oct. 1840 - Henry, son of Clement & Martha MOSSOP, Rottington Hall, farmer 11 Oct. 1840 - Isabella, daughter of William & Ann MOSSOP, St. Bees, Yeoman. 12 March 1843 - Jane, daughter of Henry & Mary MOSSOP, Desmesne (Demesne?), farmer 4 August 1844 - Elizabeth, daughter of Henry & Eleanor MOSSOP, Endside, Lowside Quarter, farmer. 20 Aug. 1848 - William, son of Joseph & Elizabeth COULTHARD, St. Bees, husbandman Burials...... 25 Nov 1800 - Nicholas DICKINSON, of Rothersike, died 23 Nov. age 27 5 Feb. 1801 - Anthony DICKINSON, St. Bees, Gentleman, died Feb. 2nd, age 72 5 Jan 1838 - Sarah DICKENSON, Loughrigg, 63 years 27 March 1838 - Mary Ann MOSSOP, 10 years, Whitehaven 25 June 1838 - Sharp MOSSOP, St. Bees, 5 years 26 July 1840 - Mary DICKENSON, George St., Whitehaven, 26 years 12 July 1840 - Mary MOSSOP, Preston Hows?, 65 years (Ceremony by R. COULTHARD, Officiating Minister) 10 Feb 1843 - Clement MOSSOP, 8 years old, Rottington 21 April 1843 - Ann MOSSOP, 70 years, St. Bees. 2 April 1843 - Henry MOSSOP, 2 years old, Rottington 4 March 1844 - Jane Ann BORROWDALE, Coulderton, 26 years 26 April 1844, William COULTHARD, St. Bees, 9 months old. 31 March 1845 - Martha MOSSOP, 46 years, Rottington 14 Aug 1845 - Isabella MOSSOP, Coulderton, 79 years

Hi Everybody, Can anyone please tell me if they recognise this email address: shirbrew@camasnet.com I have just received an email containing an attachment but no message from this particular address. The subject heading was in reply to a posting I made a while ago relating to St.Michael`s, Workington marriages. I do not want to open the attachment as it may be a virus, but also if it is totally innocent I would really like to know who sent it. Any help appreciated, Regards, Bryan

I am the son of Margaret Tweddle who is the daughter of Thomas N, Tweddle. He was born in 1853 In Cumberland Carlisle. Can anyone help me find his parents?

I am looking for a family that "supposedly" lived in Sebergham & Lime Kiln Nook(what a name!) in the years 1700 thru 1850 or so. These are the names I have & the wives & children. Please advise if you have information concerning them. Nancy Joseph Peascod born @ 1797 w. Steele(?) married @ 1825 s. Isaac b. 1827 His wife Steele died soon after & he remarried to a Mrs. Barnes who had a son named David Barnes. So......Joseph Peascod m. Mrs. Barnes by 1831 s. Joseph b. 1832 d. Mary b. 1835 s. William b. 1837 Then the family immigrated to the United States & had a d. named Mary Jane in 1843. Two of the children were born in Sebergham & 2 were born in Castle Sowerby Parish(Lime Kiln Nook).

Hi Listers Researching McMANUS JANE McMANUS born Ireland married ANDREW MURRAY in 1843 in Carlisle her parents PETER & SARAH McMANUS lived in Carrickfergus Ireland Anyone researching this line Would like to hear from anyone to share info. Regards Mary

David Know wrote: >Chris, > >I recognize that this is generally considered to be off topic. >But I think where we run into different standards it would >be helpful to explain how to compensate. And helpful to >all, so an on list thread. >Your opinion ? I have no problems with this sort of thing being discussed onlist. Anything that helps research on Cumberland is relevant. Just don't get into a discussion of websites to do with Staffordshire :-) If it gets too techie or people start complaining to me (offlist!) I'll ask you to draw a line. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-admin@rootsweb.com ENG-CUL-COPELAND-admin@rootsweb.com

Chris, I recognize that this is generally considered to be off topic. But I think where we run into different standards it would be helpful to explain how to compensate. And helpful to all, so an on list thread. Your opinion ? David Roger, Thank you. Being a novice I would never have caught that. And being a novice I still haven't quite figured out how to change. I'm running into all sorts of problems with the frames. David In a message dated 1/15/03 5:11:59 PM Central Standard Time, zimmerhouse@bellsouth.net writes: > Since it is an English site, I wouldn't be surprised if you learn it is set > for an A4 paper size, slightly longer and narrower than 8.5x11. > > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim & Una Anderson" <timuna@starpower.net> > To: <ENG-CUL-COPELAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:56 PM > Subject: Re: [CUL-COP] Pigot online DIGITAL LIBRARY OF HISTORICAL > DIRECTORIES > > > > David -- > > Thanks for this. It is fun and valuable. The problem that I am > > having is printing pages. It tends to cut off the bottom of the 8 > > 1/2 x 11" paper that I use. Could it be set up for a larger page > > format? Is it possible to shrink or even print the bottom of the > > page on a second page? It has been spitting out a blank second page > > when I print. > > On the genealogical side, I have recorded from the 1829 Pigot > > several Cumberland Jeffersons in the wine and spirits business in > > various towns. Does this suggest a possible family relationship, > > or, perhaps, the tendency to follow along in father's business, > > which after many many generations, could spread quite distant > > cousins in the same business over the countryside? Just a thought. > > Again thanks for DIGITAL LIBRARY OF HISTORICAL DIRECTORIES OF THE > > UNIVERSITY OF LEICESTER. > > Tim > >

This should. more properly, be on CUL-COP. Oh well! Anne wrote: >Saturday, January 11, 2003, 11:41:30 PM, Chris wrote: > >CD> The name was common in the parish of Lamplugh. The >CD> extant parish registers begin in 1581. The first 'Janet' was >CD> baptised in 1582. In 1583 there is a 'Jann'; in 1584 a 'Jann', a >CD> 'Janet' and a Janne; in 1585 a 'Janet'; in 1586 a 'Jennett'. >CD> A 'Janet' was buried in 1582, 1583, 1584, 1585, 1586 (two), >CD> 1589 (two), etc.. > >Chris, > >This caught my eye as I have a Janet listed in my Docwra file. I >don't have (yet) any dates for her, but she was born Janet >daughter of Sir John Lamplugh (of Lamplugh Hall, Cumberland) >and married Robert Docwra (of Dockwray Hall, Kendal). >Their grandson Lancelot Docwra died 1577 in Kendal, so I >guess she must be very late 1400'/early 1500's? I seem to have far more Janets in Lamplugh than any of you have elsewhere - so I'm beginning to wonder whether a Janet married into the Lamplughs and she became godmother for a lot of the local yeoman families - hence the proliferation of the name. I'll have to look up in a Lamplugh family tree. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Dear David, I so enjoyed looking at those old photos! Sorry there were no family resemblences. Thanks to both you and Steve for such enjoyment. Judy Barrie, Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <CDKnow@aol.com> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: [CUL-CAR] Old Photos > Hi, > > Steve Bulman has posted 7 of my old photos at his site - > http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/ - under frames / photographs / old > family photographers. > > All are definitely Cumberland - they are well documented by studio ; and NO > documentation for family names !!! ARRGH. > > There is one with a Carlisle stamp, one with a Cockermouth stamp and five at > 2 different Maryport studios. > > Most appear to be in the period 1870 - 1900, with one I believe to be c.1918. > The 1918 is in Carlisle and I believe the matriarch to be a Trimble . > Possible family names for the others would be Carl(e)ton, Irving, Birkett, > McQuoid (outside possibilities include Jameson, Collin, McLean, Watson, > Mossop, Stobbart or Wigham). > > There are a total of over 30 photos in this album with doubtful provenience ; > from Cumberland, Durham, 1 from New South Wales and numerous from Colorado. > The pivot point or central figure seems to be Sarah Isabella (Carlton) > [possibly Stobbart] Birkett ; born 25 March 1846 in Cumberland to Thomas & > Jane (McLean) Carlton and died 24 August 1913 in Colorado. In the 1881 census > she was living with husband Robert Birkett in Durham ; there were also 2 > Stobbart children (age 14 & 11) listed as "daughter-in-law" and "son-in-law". > Robert, Sarah, both Stobbart children and both Birkett children were all born > in Cumberland. > > I would be very grateful if all would take a look. > > Also I just noticed Steve has another site - The Churches of Britain and > Ireland - > http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/churches/index.html . It is an absolutely > great idea and I hope others get involved. I submitted an old photo I had of > a church / chapel that would be either Flint, Wales or Cumberland. > > Thanks to everyone and especially to Steve (all though an amateur I know how > photos can eat your site space), > David > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, Steve Bulman has posted 7 of my old photos at his site - http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/ - under frames / photographs / old family photographers. All are definitely Cumberland - they are well documented by studio ; and NO documentation for family names !!! ARRGH. There is one with a Carlisle stamp, one with a Cockermouth stamp and five at 2 different Maryport studios. Most appear to be in the period 1870 - 1900, with one I believe to be c.1918. The 1918 is in Carlisle and I believe the matriarch to be a Trimble . Possible family names for the others would be Carl(e)ton, Irving, Birkett, McQuoid (outside possibilities include Jameson, Collin, McLean, Watson, Mossop, Stobbart or Wigham). There are a total of over 30 photos in this album with doubtful provenience ; from Cumberland, Durham, 1 from New South Wales and numerous from Colorado. The pivot point or central figure seems to be Sarah Isabella (Carlton) [possibly Stobbart] Birkett ; born 25 March 1846 in Cumberland to Thomas & Jane (McLean) Carlton and died 24 August 1913 in Colorado. In the 1881 census she was living with husband Robert Birkett in Durham ; there were also 2 Stobbart children (age 14 & 11) listed as "daughter-in-law" and "son-in-law". Robert, Sarah, both Stobbart children and both Birkett children were all born in Cumberland. I would be very grateful if all would take a look. Also I just noticed Steve has another site - The Churches of Britain and Ireland - http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/churches/index.html . It is an absolutely great idea and I hope others get involved. I submitted an old photo I had of a church / chapel that would be either Flint, Wales or Cumberland. Thanks to everyone and especially to Steve (all though an amateur I know how photos can eat your site space), David

Subject: Re: Janet Hi Peter Regarding Janet. Jonathon Ostle and his second wife Isabella Nelson had a duaghter in 1883 named Isabella Janet who married a Joseph Martin in 1904. Isabella Nelson was born at Graitey which is the old name for Gretna, also her grandmother was named Janet as well. Around the Gretna area it seems the name Janet was quite popular. Joan and Len

Hi Bruce, On the 1881 census,Isaac is living with his sister-in-law, Margaret Harrison, at Kylewood, Walton, Cumberland. From census: Isaac HARRISON Brother In Law U Male 68 Staffield, Cumberland, England Retired Farmer Eddie Marton, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Glass" <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: [CUL-CAR] IVISON > Hi Listers, > > I have a family of Ivison from Cumberland, England who do not appear on > the 1881 British Census. Perhaps they emigrated and maybe part of your > family. If so I would like to hear from you. > > The family is ... > > Isaac Harrison married to Elizabeth Graham at Kirklinton, Cumberland, > England 20th April, 1840 > Two known children (there maybe others) > Jane Ivison, babtised 3rd May, 1840 > Ellen Ivison, born c.1849 > > Ido not have any other information on this Ivison family but have > ancestral family of Elizabeth Graham. > > Best regards, Bruce Glass > New Zealand > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Listers, I have a family of Ivison from Cumberland, England who do not appear on the 1881 British Census. Perhaps they emigrated and maybe part of your family. If so I would like to hear from you. The family is ... Isaac Harrison married to Elizabeth Graham at Kirklinton, Cumberland, England 20th April, 1840 Two known children (there maybe others) Jane Ivison, babtised 3rd May, 1840 Ellen Ivison, born c.1849 Ido not have any other information on this Ivison family but have ancestral family of Elizabeth Graham. Best regards, Bruce Glass New Zealand

Please reply to Robyn Lyons direct as she is not yet a subscriber. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Lyons" <robyn@lyonsmgt.com.au> To: <eng-cul-carlisle-l-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: 13 January 2003 05:35 Subject: Joseph Howe > Hi, my name is Robyn Lyons and I'm researching the Howe family from Carlisle in the 1800-1900s. In particular Joseph Howe born 25 June 1888, son of Joseph Howe and Anne Howe nee Howe. They lived at 33 Duke Street at the time. Many thanks for any help you can given me. > > Robyn Lyons > >