> Can anyone tell me where Langlands Head is please? Any help appreciated.< Have located the following farm on old-maps and multimap: Longlands Head, Kirkbride, Wigton, Cumbria CA7 5HW Try the post code in Multimap and all will be revealed. Nothing else remotely like found.Hope this helps Eddie

Dear List, One of my Brownriggs, Henry (b.c.1690-1741) emigrated to Ireland and married (don't know where) Elizabeth, daughter of Griffiths of BURTON HALL, Cumberland. Does anyone know where Burton Hall is/was situated? Thank you. Ann Brownrigg (Costa Rica)

Hi Everybody, Thanks to all who replied regarding the whereabouts of Langlands Head. I think the most likely place is Longlands Head Farm near Kirkbride. Regards, Bryan

It's probably Longlands Head in the parish of Kirkbride. Would that make sense? Regards, Trevor Littleton

Hi List, My G.G.Grandmother was Mary Ann TURNER and I have only recently found her birthplace as Wigton, Cumbs. On the IGI I found her Bapt. 16 Feb 1832, parents Robert TURNER and Elizabeth RICHARDSON. I sent for a copy of the actual church entry, and Robert TURNER was a Hatter. I have little more information about these Turner's. My Carlisle connection is my G.G.Grandparents James SCOTT Born about 1827 in Kirkoswald and Jane LITTLE Bapt. 22 May 1825 in Carlisle. They were married in St Mary's, Carlisle 26 Dec 1846. James father was a Well Sinker, deceased and Jane's father was Thomas LITTLE, Shoemaker. Their address was given as Bridge St. On the 1851 census James and Jane are living at 33 Water St. He is 24 and Jane is 27, they did not have any children with them. They later moved to Bolton, Lancs. where they had a daughter, Jane born about 1853 and later had my G.Grandmother Elizabeth in 1855 in Manchester. On some Carlisle Parish Records I found a James SCOTT, Wellsinker who had a daughter called Ruth in 1829. The mother was a Jane ???This could be James Jnr. sister. Also on the PR's I found Thomas LITTLE. Shoemaker, and Jane ??? of Caldew Gate, who had a Jane LITTLE (mine) in 1825 and also a John Pearson LITTLE in 1828 (Not sure about this one). I would love to hear from anyone who can help me in any way to progress. Mal Malcolm & Gladys Woods Email: salford6@starwon.com.au

Hi Everybody, Can anyone tell me where Langlands Head is please? Any help appreciated. Regards, Bryan

Hi Listers, Could any-one help me with the name Elizabeth Young. Born around 1812 .and baptised I think in St. Mary's, Carlisle. I am also looking for Aaron Anderson born in Carlisle in 1833, his father was also Aaron. Grateful for any help. Evelyn

Hello Robert, The IGI has the following entry.... James TELFORD, baptised 04 JAN 1801 Saint Cuthbert, Carlisle, Father: WILLIAM TELFORD Mother: MARY BOOTHMAN A search using those parents turned up James as the only one listed . There was a trend during that time to list baptisms as (for example) X the son of A Smith, labourer of Carlisle and B his wife formerly Jones and the transcribers for the IGI recorded the parents as A Smith and B Jones. Regards, Barry Lawman Cumberland Research undertaken cgrs@lineone.net www.cumberlandroots.co.uk Researching HOLLIDAY & LAWMAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT TELFORD" <ROBERT_TELFORD@msn.com> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:46 AM Subject: [CUL-CAR] James TELFORD, b 1800 CARLISLE>CAN>US > Dear List, > > The PRO files have revealed that my GGGF, James TELFORD, was born Aug 1800 > in St Cuthbert's Parish, Carlisle. He joined the Royal Sappers as a drummer in 1810. > Eventually his unit was stationed at Quebec City, where he married Mary Ann NUGENT > in 1825. My GGF, William TELFORD was born in Quebec in 1826. > > When the Citadel construction was completed, his Company was returned to England. > James elected to remain with his family in No America. They eventually settled in NY, > where James died in 1853. > > I am searching for info on the parents and siblings of James in the Carlisle area. > I suspect his father's name was likely William, from naming patterns. > > Will appreciate any info or comments. Thanks! > > Robert Telford > Melbourne, FL USA > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear List, The PRO files have revealed that my GGGF, James TELFORD, was born Aug 1800 in St Cuthbert's Parish, Carlisle. He joined the Royal Sappers as a drummer in 1810. Eventually his unit was stationed at Quebec City, where he married Mary Ann NUGENT in 1825. My GGF, William TELFORD was born in Quebec in 1826. When the Citadel construction was completed, his Company was returned to England. James elected to remain with his family in No America. They eventually settled in NY, where James died in 1853. I am searching for info on the parents and siblings of James in the Carlisle area. I suspect his father's name was likely William, from naming patterns. Will appreciate any info or comments. Thanks! Robert Telford Melbourne, FL USA

Hi, Recently added a name by marriage and was checking for it in the online 1881 census transcript at the FamilySearch site. Mary Trimble is supposed to have married a Dunn. Not sure this is them but the children's birthplaces fascinated me. I just always assumed you mined a lode till it gave out ; but I guess it was very much an on and off thing. (Edited out "England" to make a ctrl c fit the page). Household: <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_0&frompage=5">John DUNN</A> Head M Male 35 Whitehaven, Cumberland Coal Miner <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_1&frompage=5">Mary A. DUNN</A> Wife M Female 34 Whitehaven, Cumberland <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_2&frompage=5">James DUNN</A> Son U Male 15 Newcastle, Northumberland Ship Builder <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_3&frompage=5">Agnes DUNN</A> Daur Female 11 Whitehaven, Cumberland Scholar <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_4&frompage=5">John DUNN</A> Son Male 9 Whitehaven, Cumberland Scholar <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_5&frompage=5">Elizabeth DUNN</A> Daur Female 7 Newcastle, Northumberland Scholar <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_6&frompage=5">William DUNN</A> Son Male 4 Newcastle, Northumberland Scholar <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5439998_7&frompage=5">Hannah DUNN</A> Daur Female 2 Whitehaven, Cumberland Started Whitehaven, then Newcastle for 3-4 years, then back to Whitehaven for about 4 years, then back to Whitehaven for about 7 years and now back "home." The opposite of "coals to Newcastle" is "coal miners to Newcastle". David ps an american AOL spell checker does not recognize Northumberland.

Please respond to the list or to Noreen, not to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noreen Rose" <Garrynoreen@yorkrose20.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 06 March 2003 19:00 Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: CLARK/KITCHEN > Hi Everybody > > > Anyone know these people or are researching these names. > > My gt aunt Sarah Ann KITCHEN born 1866 Watermillock, married John CLARK born > 1864 occupation, Miller in the Parish Church of Penrith on the 23 November > 1889. Father of John was Joseph CLARK and father of Sarah Ann was Anthony > KITCHEN born Watermillock 1840, occupation Butcher I know he died King > Street Penrith in 1876. > > Witnesses were Mary Elizabeth KITCHEN her sister bn > Watermillock 1868 and James CLARK. I have never known a KITCHEN relative, > except my father who died when I was 24, and my 3 brothers. I am unable to > find my grandfather, her brother Anthony KITCHEN bn 1870 and Emma STYAN > bn 1872 on the 1901 census, who married in Enfield Middlesex in 1892. > > NOreen Rose nee KITCHEN > > >

Quite a nice little summary of the history of surnames at: http://www.familychronicle.com/british.htm Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

Hi listers, There is a George Ratcliffe living at Egremont, I think in the present. His address is Beckgreen 93, Egremont, Cumbria. CA222AS. Could someone check if this address is currently valid? Best regards Andy Ratcliffe

Can someone tell me and website where you can look up addressess and postcodes for people. I didn't find the Royal Mail site very helpful.

Hi, First post so please don't shout at me if something is not quite right! grgrgr grandfather Thomas Todd lived in Caldewgate, Carlise, Trafalgar St in 1881, m.Lucy ? grgr grandfather William Todd b.1862 m.Catherine Weaver? b. Carlisle. - Can't find any Catherine Weaver of similar age in Carlisle area? They moved to London and are living in Battersea in 1901with my grandfather William John Todd b. Carlisle 1889 (St.James). Need help on the Weaver family and also on Lucy - Thomas's wife. Any help would be fantastic. William was a hatter and we think worked in what is now the Kangol factory. Thanks. John Todd. johntodd1@btinternet.com

This is my first posting to this list. Being a senior-newbie, excuse me if the request format is not in accordance with accepted practise. Moses is my wife's g grandfather. He was buried in Co. Armagh, Ireland, 6 Oct. 1936, age 69. Oral family history says he was from Whitehaven. In IGI I found a Moses Wilson. Christened 3 Mar 1867, in Arlecdon, Cumberland. Father shown as Thomas Wilson, Mother Jane. We know Moses father was Thomas. In IGI I found two marriage records for a Thomas Wilson and a Jane. Thomas Wilson/Jane Cowien. 12 May 1839. Thwaites, Cumberland. Thomas Wilson/Jane Graham. 21 Aug 1840. Saint John, Carrigill, Cumberland. I cannot find any other BMD data in IGI. How would I determine which, if any, of the two Thomas Wilson was Moses father? We do not know when Moses went to Ireland, if he went alone, or if the family went as well. Family rumour has it that Thomas was in the iron foundry business but others say he was a farmer. Not much to go on but any help would be appreciated. Roy Mississauga - Canada

I have seen someone looking for PARKER HAUGHAN on another web site. I cannot access their information so I hoping that they read this site. Please get in contact if this is you! Thank you. E.B

Abel, are you still out there somewhere. I'd like to draw on your extensive knowledge of shipping. If you're there please contact me offlist - the old address I have for you bounces. Malcolm Borrowdale

An amazing new resource: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ Have fun! Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net

There is currently a thread on this very subject on the newsgroup soc.genealogy.britain Some of you may want to check out the reply by Eve McLaughlin. Chris chris@dickinson.uk.net