Does anyone know where I may find old photographs of Maryport at the turn of the 20th C I am specifically interested in Kirby Street (top end nearest Church Street) where my Clarke family lived both on the street itself, and in Nelsons Yard Also my Dixons were at Barns Yard off Nelson Street All ideas would be welcome Sue Horsman sue.horsman@tesco.net

Looking for any descendents of Dockery Marsden b 1780 in Cockermouth. many thanks Judy Marsden

Once again, these may be of use to someone: Sacred to the memory of ROBERT WHITE High Plains who died 20th September 1823 aged 48 years. Also of JANE/JANET? his wife who died at Blea Gate 6th October 1832 aged 51 years. ROBERT TEASDALE who died at Ivy House Garrigill December 7th 1905 aged 47 years. Also in loving memory of JACOB BUSHBY Ivy House Garrigill who died March 3rd 1912 aged 63 years. JOSEPH DAVIDSON of Blagill died March 23rd 1828 aged 50 years. MARGARET his wife died Jan.3rd 1834 aged 53 years. ROBERT their son died March 23rd 1843 aged 27 years. JOSEPH DAVIDSON Jun. died March 18th 1867 aged 60 years. ANN his wife died September 5th 1859 aged 53 years. ISABELLA wife of JOHN DAVIDSON died Aug.13th 1851 aged 43 years. JONATHAN DAVIDSON of Blagill died June 17th 1860 aged 50 years. ISABELLA his daughter died Feb.1st 1853 aged 4 years. Sacred to the Memory of JOHN SMITH of Villa Real, Leadgate, County of Durham who died August 5th 1864 aged 45 years. Also NANCY ADA daughter of the above who died Feb.23rd 1875 aged 15 years and was interred at St.Ives, Leadgate. Sacred to the Memory of JOSEPH BELL of Dryburn who died Oct.24th 1858 aged 73 years. JOHN his son died 24th June 1837 aged 21 years. JAMES his son died Aug.2nd 1838 aged 10 years. MARY his daughter Nov.21st 1838 aged 3 months. THOMAS his son died Sep.8th 1842 aged 28 years. HANNAH his daughter died Aug.21st 1865 aged 35 years. MARGARET his wife died Jun 24th 1876 aged 76 years. MATTHEW BRAMWELL the beloved husband of MARY BRAMWELL of Garrigill, Alston who died July 22nd 1915 aged 77 years. In Memory of THOMAS WATSON who died at Red Brow 3rd November 1877 aged 60 years. Also of MARY, his wife who died at Garrigill 17th June 1847 aged 25 years. Also of HANNAH his second wife who died 11th May 1874 aged 47 years and was interred at Nenthead. More to follow............ Bryan

ISAAC TEASDALE of High Beldy who died June 20th 1892 aged 68 years interred in the churchyard. Also HANNAH his wife who died April 16th 1894 aged 63 years. Bryan

Hi Everybody, These may be of use to someone: JOHN WHITE of Alston who died Aug.16th 1834 aged 47 years. And of PEGGY WHITE relict of the above who died July 7th 1878 aged 67 years. Also of MARY daughter of JOHN and PAGGY WHITE who died Feb.27th? 1830 aged 3 years. Here lies ye body of GILBERT WALTON of Gallagill who departed this life ye 9 day of March 1732 Aged 46 years. MAT: son of THO: Be? of Gal:died 17th Decb.1746 aged 10 years. Here lies interred the body of JAMES KIRTON clockmaker who departed this life the 30th day of May aged 43 years Anno Dom 1729. Regards, Bryan

Hi Everybody, These may be of help to someone: JOHN DIXON of Renwick who died 25th Feb.1883 aged 82 years. Also of MARY his wife who died 23rd April 1873 aged 77 years. ISAAC ROBINSON of Renwick who died April 19th 1832 aged 57 years. Also of DOROTHY his wife who died Feb.15th 1851, aged 70 years. Also of MARY WATT their daughter who died Dec.17th 1886 aged 80 years. Also of MARGARET JOHNSTON their daughter who died Oct.6th 1894 aged 77 years. In Memory of JOSEPH GILL of Renwick who died January 26th 1860? aged 34 years. Also ISAAC his brother who died at Gamblesby April 12th 1880 aged 60 years. Also of SARAH sister of the above who died at Great Corby Nov 1908 aged 73 years. Regards, Bryan

Hi Everybody, Hope these are of some help to someone. St.Augustine's, Alston JOHN VIPOND died July 5th 1758 aged 52 years. St.John's, Garrigill In Loving Memory of JOHN VIPOND of Dryburn, who died on the 6th of January 1905 aged 62 years. Also Mary, his wife who died September 15th 1930 aged 86 years. HARRY JAMES, 4th son of above killed in action somewhere in France February 24th 1917 aged 29 years. ISAAC, 3rd son of above who died May 21st 1929 aged 49 years. JAMES VIPOND of Garrigill Gate died Jan. 5th 1826 aged 63. Also ANN wife of the above died Jan.12th 1841 aged 82. ELIZABETH daughter of above and wife of JAMES SHIELD died Nov.11th 1813 aged 24 years. THOMAS VIPOND of Dryburn ddied 18th August 1731 aged 70 and ELIZABETH......... ISAAC VIPOND of Nenthead died December 28th 1847 aged 56 years. Also of MALLY his wife who died June 6th 1848 aged 56 years. And of THOMAS their son who died October 1st 1836 aged 6 years. All the following are on the same memorial: In Loving Memory of JAMES VIPOND of Garrigill who died on the 5th of Feb.1900 aged 68 years. Also of ANN VIPOND dearly beloved wife of the above who died September 20th 1913 aged 73 years. Also of THOMAS WALTON who died 13th March 1862 aged 16 months. Also of Jonathan who died on the 12th October 1869 in infancy. Sons of the above. Also CLARA MARIA their daughter who died 13th September 1938 aged 59 years. In loving memory of ISABEL beloved daughter of JAMES and ANN VIPOND who died March 16th 1902 aged 28 years. Also GEORGINA BEATRICE their daughter who died Sept.17th 1902 aged 26 years. Also of ELIZABETH ANN their daughter who died May 4th 1903 aged 41 years. Also of JAMES their son who died Jan.8th 1905? aged 39 years. In Loving Memory of MINNIE SHAW daughter of JAMES and ANN VIPOND who died May 31st 1906 aged 38 years. Also of LILIAN their daughter who died July 9th 1932 aged 59 years. Also of MARY ELEANOR their daughter who died April 10th 1949 aged 81 years. Also of THOMAS WALTON their son who died February 11th 1951 aged 87 years. In Memory of WALTON VIPOND of Hartside who died on 27th July 1899 aged 66 years. Also HILDA EVELINA CARLTON their youngest daughter who died on 22nd August 1955 aged 73 years. Regards, Bryan

Hi Barbara, Greetings to a possible distant cousin. I know very little about Sarah NICHOL (or NICKOL or NICKOLS) according to which child on the IGI you look up. I haven't gone back to parish records to confirm these details yet for this generation (I hope to in the future), but the existence of Robert Nichol BENSON later would seem to confirm the name. They were married at Saint Mary (IGI) and the children were also christened at Saint Mary. I presume that is just south of the river from Stanwix judging from the birth addresses of the next generation so it seems quite likely we have the same Sarah. However marriages were more commonly held in the bride's church, I believe. I will let you know if, and when, I find more info. Who were Sarah's parents? Regards, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Cook" <bcook@stn.net> To: "Christine Benson" <christine.benson3@ntlworld.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [CUL-CAR] Laurence BENSON of Carlisle, Cumberland, England > Hi Christine: I am relatively new to this list as well. I am tracing the Nichol family from Carlisle. My family is a John Nichol born 1810 in Carlisle.. His father was a Robert Nichol and I believe his grandfather was a Robert Nichol. There was a Sarah Nichol born 1773 and christened in Stanwix parish. My John Nichol came to Canada in 1832 and married here in Canada. Don' t know if we can connect these families or not. Barbara > > > > >I am new to this list. > > > >I have traced my BENSON ancestry back to Lawrence Benson who married Sarah > >Nichol in 1803 at Saint Mary, Carlisle. They had 4 known children:- > >John b. abt.1804 > >William b. abt.1806 > >Robert b. abt.1809 > >Lawrence b. abt.1811 ...

Hello Barry, Many thanks. It is interesting that the parents and siblings are "missing". What is the extent of the Carlisle 1851 census? Regards, Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Lawman" <cgrs@lineone.net> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [CUL-CAR] Laurence BENSON of Carlisle, Cumberland, England > Hello Christine, > From the 1851 census..... > Enumeration District 1b, Folio 44, Page 9 > ? Scotch Street, Carlisle.(The "?" refers to a house number but the > transcriber probably could not make it out. The adjacent numbers are 33 and > 36) > > Robert BENSON, head, mar, 41, Linen and Woolen Draper, born Carlisle > Mary A BENSON, wife, mar, 35, Wife, born Scotland > John L BENSON, son, 5, Scholar, born Carlisle > Lawrence BENSON, son, 4, scholar, born Carlisle > Robert BENSON, son, 3, born Carlisle > George NIXON, Asst, unmar, 21, Journeyman Draper, born Haltwhistle, > Northumberland > William JACKSON, Asst, unmar, Journeyman Draper, born Nichol Forest > Edward IVISON, App, unmar, Drapers Apprentice, born West Indies(British > Subject) > Miles BELL, App, unmar, 13, Drapers Apprentice, born Stanwix > Fanny SCOTT, App, unmar, 23, House Servant, born Greystoke > > I could see no trace of Roberts parents or siblings in the 1851 for > Carlisle. > > Regards, > Barry Lawman > cgrs@lineone.net or Barry@cumberlandroots.co.uk > www.cumberlandroots.co.uk > Researching HOLLIDAY & LAWMAN > >

Hello Listers, I am new to this list and wonder if anyone can help me? My 3xgreat grandfather William SETREE was living in Stanwix when he made his Will in 1778. Does anyone recognise the name SETREE? - this man's son owned property in Appley-in-westmorland and I am presuming the family came from around the area. The family was quite wealthy owning businesses, properties in London and being able to leave money to charity. Which local body would I approach to find out where he is buried? Any help would be appreciated, thank you. Kind regards Ann Nelson, New Zealand

Some further names whihc I hadn't come across in the same bible. Mary armstrong died Hronsby Cumwhitton Jan 3rd 1929 aged 88 William Armstrong died Feb 28th 1930 aged 78 Hornsby Cumwhitton Sarah armstrong died at Hronsby June 9th 1946 aged 86 late of Parkbroom Pam

Hi all, Just come across a bible with information written in it and thought it may have some connections, I have not traced this family but it starts with Dorothy Forrester born 6th August 1865 at Hallburn croft Longtown Married William Armstrong died May 16th 1917 aged 51 at Hornsby, Cumwhitton. The other deaths written are: MAry Forrester died Hallburn Croft (HC Long) Longtown Sept 4th 1857 74 years John Forrester died HC Long January 7th 1866 aged 81 years Dorothy Forrester died HC Long Feb 12th 1870 aged 51 years Jane Forrester died HC Long May 22nd 1870 aged 49 years George Forrester died Highfield Longtown Feb 7th 1891 aged 84 years Ann (Nancy) Holliday died Ullock Cockermouth January 9th 1897 aged 82 years Leonard Armstrong died at garlands hospital Feb 15th 1900 aged 56 years Interred at Carlisle cemetery Feb 20th grave no 63 Margaret Graham died at Hornsby Cumwhitton June 30th 1900 aged 80years Frances Ginne Armstrong Born July 10th 1884 Glow Smithfield Sarah Mary Elizabeth Forrester Armstrong born Nov 8th 1889 at Highfield Kirklinton Sybil Brown Armstrong born June 26th 1906 Carlisle baptised April 11th 1908 by Rev William Maudsley Cumwhitton Harold James Arthur Brown armstrong born October 21st 1911 at Hornsby Cumwhitton. I have made some connections via the Forrester Armstrong amrriage of Dorothy and William, and that the 2 families were entwined. Hope some of this may be useful to someone. Happy hunting. Pam

Hello Christine, From the 1851 census..... Enumeration District 1b, Folio 44, Page 9 ? Scotch Street, Carlisle.(The "?" refers to a house number but the transcriber probably could not make it out. The adjacent numbers are 33 and 36) Robert BENSON, head, mar, 41, Linen and Woolen Draper, born Carlisle Mary A BENSON, wife, mar, 35, Wife, born Scotland John L BENSON, son, 5, Scholar, born Carlisle Lawrence BENSON, son, 4, scholar, born Carlisle Robert BENSON, son, 3, born Carlisle George NIXON, Asst, unmar, 21, Journeyman Draper, born Haltwhistle, Northumberland William JACKSON, Asst, unmar, Journeyman Draper, born Nichol Forest Edward IVISON, App, unmar, Drapers Apprentice, born West Indies(British Subject) Miles BELL, App, unmar, 13, Drapers Apprentice, born Stanwix Fanny SCOTT, App, unmar, 23, House Servant, born Greystoke I could see no trace of Roberts parents or siblings in the 1851 for Carlisle. Regards, Barry Lawman cgrs@lineone.net or Barry@cumberlandroots.co.uk www.cumberlandroots.co.uk Researching HOLLIDAY & LAWMAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Benson" <christine.benson3@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: [CUL-CAR] Laurence BENSON of Carlisle, Cumberland, England > I am new to this list. > > I have traced my BENSON ancestry back to Lawrence Benson who married Sarah > Nichol in 1803 at Saint Mary, Carlisle. They had 4 known children:- > John b. abt.1804 > William b. abt.1806 > Robert b. abt.1809 > Lawrence b. abt.1811 > > Robert married Mary Anne Little b. 1815, in 1844.at Kirk Andrews Upon Esk, > Cumberland. They had 4 known children:- > John Little b. 1845 > Lawrence b. 1846 > Robert Nichol b. 1847 > Richard (Little) b. 1852 (He added "Little" in his later life) > The family were born in Carlisle. > > The whole family moved south, individually or together, to the Manchester > environs where the next generation married. > > John Little m. Elizabeth Wood and had William, Florence and Lawrence. > Robert Nichol m. Elizabeth Lane Mounsden and had Bertram Leopold and > Alphonso Lionel. > Richard (Little) m. 1 Annie ? from IOM > 2 Elizabeth Hill and had Alecia Annie (aka > Elsie) , Richard Vernon (my grandfather) and Norah. > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this family? Are there any descendants? > > I have found them on the 1881 census but would SKS be good enough to look > them up on previous censuses particularly in Carlisle and environs. I know > they were in Carlisle in 1852 and then lose them until they appear in the > Manchester region in the 1870's > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > TIA > > Christine > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am new to this list. I have traced my BENSON ancestry back to Lawrence Benson who married Sarah Nichol in 1803 at Saint Mary, Carlisle. They had 4 known children:- John b. abt.1804 William b. abt.1806 Robert b. abt.1809 Lawrence b. abt.1811 Robert married Mary Anne Little b. 1815, in 1844.at Kirk Andrews Upon Esk, Cumberland. They had 4 known children:- John Little b. 1845 Lawrence b. 1846 Robert Nichol b. 1847 Richard (Little) b. 1852 (He added "Little" in his later life) The family were born in Carlisle. The whole family moved south, individually or together, to the Manchester environs where the next generation married. John Little m. Elizabeth Wood and had William, Florence and Lawrence. Robert Nichol m. Elizabeth Lane Mounsden and had Bertram Leopold and Alphonso Lionel. Richard (Little) m. 1 Annie ? from IOM 2 Elizabeth Hill and had Alecia Annie (aka Elsie) , Richard Vernon (my grandfather) and Norah. Does anyone have any knowledge of this family? Are there any descendants? I have found them on the 1881 census but would SKS be good enough to look them up on previous censuses particularly in Carlisle and environs. I know they were in Carlisle in 1852 and then lose them until they appear in the Manchester region in the 1870's Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA Christine

Does anyone know of any information on the Cowan family? Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get information from Carlisle, England? COWAN/COWEN Cumb.Eng, CAN, NY Thomas COWAN was born in 1782 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. He married Mary ? about 1801 in England. The names of there children that we are aware of are: Nancy COWAN b. about 1803 in Carlisle Mary COWAN b. about 1805 in Carlisle William COWAN b. about 1807 in Carlisle Thomas COWAN b. about 1810 in Carlisle Mikel COWAN b. about 1812 in England John COWAN b. about 1815 in Carlisle Sarah COWAN b. about 1820 in Carlisle Thomas and Mary with some of their children moved to Canada where Thomas died in 1832. Mary died 1836 in NY. Thank You Ella Hartwig dlhart@smig.net Austin, MN USA

Hi Everyone, I have always thought there was a complete distinction in UK between the male and female versions. In 1748 there was a marriage in our family between Francis Outram and Frances Chambers. Practically every generation from then on named a boy Francis and a girl Frances, distinguished as Frank and Fanny. Eventually they gave up the formal name and just baptised the children as the latter. The last I know of was my father-in-law named Frank and he had an aunt and uncle Frank and Fanny. I have just tested this out on IGI and as David says they make a distinction between the two sexes. Interestingly they recognise Fanny as an alternative for Frances but treat Frank as a separate name to Francis. F-i-L also had two aunts from another side baptised Kate and Lizzie not Catherine and Elizabeth. Their sister Martha was known throughout her life as Patty which I understand was a diminutive for that name though one I had never come across until recently. Jill

Hello jjcoulthard@btinternet.com, In reference to your comment: è Their sister Martha was known throughout her life as è Patty which I understand was a diminutive for that è name though one I had never come across until è recently. My Great Grandmother was Martha and was known as Pat, my mum later given the name Patricia after my g grandmother. rob ========Original Message======== Subj: [CUL-CAR] What's in a name - was Francis / Frances Date: 19/04/2003 15:41:12 GMT Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:jjcoulthard@btinternet.com">jjcoulthard@btinternet.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com">ENG-CUL-CARLISLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi Everyone, I have always thought there was a complete distinction in UK between the male and female versions. In 1748 there was a marriage in our family between Francis Outram and Frances Chambers. Practically every generation from then on named a boy Francis and a girl Frances, distinguished as Frank and Fanny. Eventually they gave up the formal name and just baptised the children as the latter. The last I know of was my father-in-law named Frank and he had an aunt and uncle Frank and Fanny. I have just tested this out on IGI and as David says they make a distinction between the two sexes. Interestingly they recognise Fanny as an alternative for Frances but treat Frank as a separate name to Francis. F-i-L also had two aunts from another side baptised Kate and Lizzie not Catherine and Elizabeth. Their sister Martha was known throughout her life as Patty which I understand was a diminutive for that name though one I had never come across until recently. Jill ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello, First, did you know that a study was done for the Federal Communications Commission titled "Long-term Trends in Personal Given Name Frequencies in the UK" ? ( http://users.erols.com/dgalbi/telpol/names.pdf ) (no wonder taxes are so high ! ) Or that the 10th most popular male name in London in 1120 was Drogo ? Or that the 10th most popular female name in "North England" in 1350 was Juliana (pretty name but it's never shown up since) ? Or that 6 of the 10 most popular male names in London in 1994 never showed up as popular in the past ; while 8 of the most popular female names of "North England" in 1994 never showed before (and 1 - Emma - shows only in 1350 and 1994) ? Just like to point out something I learned today (you can teach an old dog a new trick). The reason for this search was because I discovered that (at least it appears) the online IGI does not consider Francis and Frances as interchangeable. Francis is the male version and Frances is the female version. I was checking a small time period in England only so it may not apply over time. But something to keep in mind. David

Hello, Is / was there a difference between a "mariner" and a "sailor" in the period around 1760 in Cumberland ? If I found a John Smith described as a "mariner" in a BT entry and 5 years later another John Smith called a "sailor" are they different people or is there a chance they are the same person ? I know there are "seamen" and "able bodied seamen" and they are different. The sequence was "mariner" in 1765 and "sailor" in 1782. David

Holme St Cuthbert History Group present THE SOLWAY PLAIN - THEN AND NOW A local History Exhibition at Culterham Village Hall, Mawbray, Cumbria. MAY 4 - 10, 2003 Open: May 4, 5 and 10: 10am - 4pm May 6 and 8: 7pm - 9pm May 7 and 9: 2pm - 4pm Enterance Free, Refreshments available. Peter Ostle visit the family websites at www.ostle.ca