Hello Pat Thankyou for that - your Jane Bennett JAMES would really have solved my riddle. But . . . Since sending my last message, which took a while to post and then went 3 times (sorry, everyone) I have received the 1861 census CD. My Jane JAMES - the one born around 1810 - was there in Redruth 1861, same address as 1881, with her husband Richard JAMES plus 3 daughters and a son. The daughters are Emma 19, Elizabeth 17, and Ellen 14. So this doesn't help, as I am looking for a Jane who would have been about 15. However, I think I have found yours, 1861, in Penryn: Henry JAMES, 51 waggoner, b. Mullion wife Jane JAMES, 51 also b. Mullion children John 23 b. Mullion, then Samuel 22, Richard 21, Elizabeth 12, William 8 all b. Penryn In 1871 this family is in Budock - wife is Jane J James, according to the index. Hope this is of use Anne Scotland -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com